The Hindsight Games Part 1: J.J. Watt
Websters dictionary defines the word hindsight as "perception of the nature of an event after it has happened". As football fans, we use the word hindsight all the time when looking back at previous situations involving our team. This is common when looking back at past draft classes.
I wanted to start a fresh and new series, called "The Hindsight Games". Using hindsight is usually frowned upon by the esteemed population on BTB. It usually makes the person using hindsight look like a fraud or phony. I am comfortable enough with myself to write a few articles based on hindsight. In the first article, I decided to go back to the 2011 NFL Draft.
During that long off season, I pushed the wagon on Tyron Smith. I would not go back and change his draft selection, but I will play the devils advocate and talk about the possibilities of drafting another player. We are still in the hanging pattern doing circles before the real off season begins. The combine is a couple of weeks away, free agency is over a month away and the NFL Draft doesn't take place for months.
I am running out of stuff to talk about and I thought that this would be a fun article for everyone to read. The Hindsight Games is nothing like the Hunger Games, so don't worry about being selected to fight to the death in a arena. Though that would offer me some true excitement to see some of you battle against each other, I know I am a sick man.
The 2011 NFL Draft
For months we speculated and debated who the Cowboys should draft with their 9th overall selection in the 2011 NFL Draft. After reading Wes Bunting and Raf discuss USC offensive tackle Tyron Smith, I was sold immediately and began to push him as our first round draft pick.
After taking the entire twelve minutes the Cowboys had when they went on the clock, the pick was sent in to NFL commissionaire Roger Goodell. With the 9th pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys selected USC offensive tackle Tyron Smith.
I was relieved that they selected such a physical freak and I envisioned Tyron Smith as a franchise offensive tackle. I would never go back and change that pick, but I will consider the options we had at the time. Going back and changing the selection has a ripple effect on the entire franchise. This is what makes the Hindsight Games so fun and unique.
A couple of other names also intrigued me and I wrote many articles on the pro's and con's of drafting each different prospect. I will start of the Hindsight Games with J.J. Watt.
J.J. Watt
Eve Of The Draft Post About J.J. Watt
Final Big Board Update: J.J. Watt Ranked 9th Overall
The other option I had for the Cowboys instead of Tyron Smith was Wisconsin defensive end, J.J. Watt. Watt was a very special player in the draft last year and I truly feel that he was one of the most underrated prospects in the past ten years. People underestimated him for whatever reasons, but his combine performance was one of the best I have ever seen.
Combine Performance
- 6'5 290
- 34 inch arms
- 11 1/2 inch hands
- 4.81 40 yard dash
- 34 225 lb bench reps
- 37 inch vertical jump
- 10'00" broad jump
- 4.21 20 yard shuttle
- 6.88 3 cone drill
Watt absolutely went to the combine and blew the doors off the place. Before the combine, Watt was considered a top 25 draft pick. After his impressive combine performance, his stock went through the roof and was then considered a top ten draft pick.
J.J. Watt didn't last for long after the Cowboys selected Tyron Smith, Watt was drafted by the Houston Texans with the 11th pick. Newly appointed defensive coordinator and former Dallas Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips started off his era with the Texans on a great draft pick. The Texans as a whole had one of the best drafts out of any team in the NFL last year. They wanted to change their defense from a 4-3 to the 3-4 and dedicated the resources they had in the draft, acquiring the personnel they needed to make the defense work.
There were plenty of J.J. Watt fans on here last year and many, primarily Fan In Thick And Thin, wanted the Cowboys to draft JJ Watt instead of Tyron Smith. Personally, I would have been thrilled with either player because in my eyes, both were blue chip prospects.
J.J. Watt would have brought us the disruptive and pass rushing defensive end we are still looking for. Adding Watt to our defensive line would have instantly upgraded our defense. Having Watt would have opened plays up for the nose tackle next to him, Jay Ratliff. It also would have greatly benefited the outside and inside linebackers behind Watt. Having a defensive end of this quality may have improved Anthony Spencer's game back to what we saw from him in 2009. That is the line of thinking behind the support for drafting Watt, many fans felt that he would greatly impact the entire defense and I do agree with that theory.
Watt was a force to be reckoned with in his rookie season. He was an immediate big time player and has already established himself as one of the best defensive ends in the NFL. I am not just saying he is one of the best 3-4 defensive ends, I am saying he is one of the BEST defensive ends in the game, 3-4 or 4-3.
2011 Statistics
- 56 tackles
- 5.5 sacks
- 2 fumble recoveries
- 13 tackles for loss
- 14 quarterback hits
- PFF All Rookie Team
- Chia's NFL Comparison for J.J. Watt- The 3-4 version of Jared Allen
Watt was a beast in his rookie season and was one of the centerpieces to one of the best defenses in the NFL. When the Texans played their FIRST ever playoff game on January 7, 2012 against the Cincinnati Bengals, Watt showed up big time.
Playoff Statistics
- 2 tackles
- 1 sack
- 1 INT returned for a TD
His performance against the Ravens was even more impressive.
- 12 tackles
- 2.5 sacks
- 3 tackles for loss
J.J. Watt is a such a great player and his upside is through the roof. This is a kid who played tight end at Central Michigan and delivered pizza's. He then goes to Wisconsin, redshirts for a year and then becomes the starting defensive end out of nowhere. Watt has really only played defensive end for three years now, 2009-2010 for Wisconsin and 2011 for the Texans. This is a player who hasn't even begun to scratch the surface of his potential and this is scary. Watt can get even better and I am so happy for this young man, nobody deserves it more than J.J. Watt.
He loves the game of football and is one of the hardest working players I have ever heard about. Crying isn't a good look for a beast of a man at 6'5 290, but he actually cried after he lost the Rose Bowl to TCU. He really cares about playing to the best of his abilities and giving the fans a win. If you don't like J.J. Watt, then there is something seriously wrong with you.
Even though Watt is on the rival Houston Texans, a team we despise. I will always root for and support J.J. Watt. If the Cowboys drafted him, we would have the pass rushing/disruptive defensive end that we seem to need every year in the draft. A new year, a new draft and we still have the need for a type of defensive end like Watt. The problem is, these guys don't grow on trees. You cannot go out into the woods and cut one down. These guys aren't sold at Best Buy. You cannot go to Best Buy and pick one up.
The same can be said for Tyron Smith and I don't want to confuse anyone with Hindsight Games articles. Tyron Smith was a great decision and we needed a offensive tackle in the worst way. Marc Columbo was the worst RT in the NFL in 2010. Adding a franchise offensive lineman like Tyron Smith, who is just 21 years old, will give us bookend tackles for a long time. If Tyron Smith successfully makes the move to left tackle, we will have arguably the best pair of tackles in the NFL.
But it is always fun to go back and look at things with a different perspective. If we drafted J.J. Watt, we would have drafted a serious talent at defensive end. But what happens at right tackle? Do we draft one later in the draft? Would that player have been successful for us? Would we have signed a free agent right tackle? That is why I wanted Tyron Smith, because the options at offensive tackle got really slim after the first round. Tyron Smith showed that he is one of the best right tackles in the NFL his rookie season, at just 20 years old, Smith showed the world just how good he was.
The Cowboys made the right decision, and drafting J.J. Watt would have been a damn good decision also. Looking back it now, it's just all hindsight. Welcome to the Hindsight Games, may the odds be ever in your favor.
Next On The Hindsight Games: Nick Fairley
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I can't wait to see the movie!
Hunger Games that is haha.
Also while JJ Watt has the flash I think Smtih and DeCastro are exactly what this team needs!
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I read the books
I hope the move is good
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
I just got finished reading the first one...
was a really good book…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 16, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah they are pretty good man
you know, I have read everything good and I have no books left to read now
The Passage
The Hunger Games
The Name Of The Wind:The Kingkiller Chronicles (my favorite book)
The Wise Mans Fear: Day 2 The Kingkiller Chronicles
The Strain Series by Chuck Hogan and Guilermo Del Torro
The new Stephen King JFK book
The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo series
I have nothing to read now and I am waiting for book 3 of the Kingkiller Chronicles and The Twelve the sequel to The Passage, I cannot wait for those two books to come out this summer
see, I keep getting lucky when I stumble upon the Passage, the Strain series, and I thought there was nothing else that would interest me
then I stumble onto the Kingkiller Chronicles and was hooked, then I finish them and I read the JFK King book
for months after that I was not reading anything I was so bored, then I saw the GIrl with the dragon tattoo and I liked the movies so I read the books
then I saw the hunger games trailers, read all 3 books in one week
now I have nothing to read dude, I am reading the Name Of the Wind again because Kvothe is awesome
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
of course
The Hobbit I have read, Lord of the Rings I am halfway through, but that is going to take me the rest of my life to read that book
I loved the movies, but the book is so complex, I read a few pages a day and call it a night
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
I would suggest the "Wheel of Time" series by Robert Jordan
if you are looking for a good series to read…it is about 13 books at this point(i think) and each one is a good one.
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
might have to check that out
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I am the only person who does like the Kingkiller Chrinicles?
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
they are my favorite books
I really LOVE those books man
I am reading the first one again, just started it over the other day
I hope they make a movie, it would be epic
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
I read the first book. After that I was good because the teen romance angle was a little much.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
yeah it was irritating
I admit that it bothered me, but the basis for the book was awesome
I love post apocalyptic stuff
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions
I actually liked the first one
thought she was a pretty interesting heroine, and was on the whole rather indifferent to all of the other character’s feelings about her – she just wanted to stay alive.
The second one though…that got hard to read. So you made a good decision stopping after book one.
On the other hand, book 3 throws a pretty serious curve into the whole series. It takes a far broader approach, showing the implications of war, and when I look back on the series, I have a far different feeling for the books then just after book 1 and 2
book 3 is good
read book 3 Dexter, its a good read
book 1 is the best but book 3 is really good, book 2 I didnt like
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
No I really liked the first book (or at least most of it).
I could just see where it was headed in the next one and I decided to stop where I was.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
well
I think you should at least read the third one, its pretty good
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
I really dont like Catnip either
but the girl that plays her in the movie is beautiful
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 18, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Picking either was a win-win situation but I give the nod to Tron for his ability to be a Franchise left tackle
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
Nice
Question, were you inspired by the post you did on Anthony Spencer yesterday?
Because that Anthony Spencer article fits.
Also, how about revisiting passing up on Steven Jackson for Julius Jones, or the Bobby Carpenter pick? Just a thought. Can’t wait to read your Fairley post.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 15, 2012 2:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The Hindsight on Bobby would be anyone else in the 06 draft
"This team is going to win a Super Bowl at some point. It's going to be exciting when that time comes. And when we look back, we'll know who was on what side of the fence during those tough moments." - Tony Romo
yes it did actually
I just started thinking back about the past
I think I will do like a 3-4 part segment on just the 2011 NFL Draft and then work my way back
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
Imagine Romo last year
With Colombo or Parnell at RT. He would’ve been in a body cast week 8. Smith was the right pick.
Tyron Smith vs. J.J. Watt
Like an Orca vs. a Great Wite Shark…two monsters of the ocean…
Unlike Albert Haynesworth – a big sloppy walrus….
Great White aint got nothing on
Orca vs Giant squid.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Spot on assessment
No Tron at RT = another shortened season for TR. McGee starting from NOV on 6-10 finish at best.
No JJ Watt at DL = 8-8, with a shot at the playoffs until KO on W 17.
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
thanks
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
CC We never got a chance to talk Yankees
One thing we can absolutely agree on – NY can’t get rid of that tool AJ Burnett fast enough. Worst player acquisition since that bleeding sphincter – Kevin Brown
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
LOL
he does remind me of Kevin Brown or ugh even worse Carl Pavano
I really like that we picked up Pineda, I think that was the best move in the off season not Albert Pujols or Prince Fielder
Pineda was great for me in fantasy last year and he averages like 9 K’s a game
the true wild card this year is Phil Hughes, I have no idea what is going to happen with him and he is a real important player in our rotation
the only problem is that this team is old, real old
Cano is our best player, my favorite player but Jeter is done almost, A-Rod is done soon, Tex looks old right now, no way Granderson repeats what he did last year
being an old team really bothers me right now
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah Hughes was a mystery last year
Agree on all points – Cano is now the straw that stirs the drink. Didn’t think Tex was on the decline yet, but both Jeter and ARod are on the downside. Granderson was a real stud last year.
At least the Sawx will suck again with Bobby V
'I have wasted Time and Time doth waste me'
Jerry Jones as Richard II - Act 5, Scene 5
I think the Pineda move puts em over the top against Detroit, Boston, Texas and Tampa
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
I wish I could say the same
but I am really worried about the rotation after him and CC
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
this is why I think we hold on to Aj
He’d be fine as a number 3. There’s less pressure on him, and he would only go once a week and once in a series in the post season.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Bobby V is a cool guy
but he will run that team into the ground, watch
this isn’t the Soba Noodles in Japan anymore Bobby
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
he's the perfect guy to follow the laize faire Francona
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Ah the Yankees
Oh how I love thee, let me count the ways.
I don’t miss Carl “15day” Pavano.
I love the Pineda deal. Dude is young and is power arm.
It’s going to suck when Jeter retires, a lot like when Emmitt Smith finally left.
I really like Grandy. His swing is tailor made for that porch in right field.
I think Tex has been playing hurt of late, has to explain that low batting avg, but he wasn’t paid to hit .300, he was paid to mash, get on base, drive runs, and for his glove.
Arod is done.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Jeter situation is like the Marc Columbo situation kinda
he is deteriorating before our eyes and its sad because he is such a good guy, like Columbo was
I loved Columbo, but once he blew his knee again it was over for him and we had to watch him for another 16 games
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
See I think it's more like Emmitt
Watching him grind thru for the 3,000 hits last few seasons was like watching Emmitt fight for the record his last few seasons with Dallas.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
yeah true
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 6:13 AM CST up reply actions
Speaking of Hindsight -
DeSean Jackson will be a Patriot….then when he becomes a Patriot, everyone will say…“Wow, that’s a surprise…” but in hindsight, if you read Rome One comments on BTB…you will know in advance…
If DeSean Jackson becomes a Patriot
Brady might have another 50 TD pass season in him.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Nice job Chai!
I was hoping someone would take a look back at prospects we looked at but didn’t select.
I think the Watt vs Tyron argument is splitting hairs in a way. Both were needs. COlumbo was a league worst tackle, and given that Free sucked this year at LT, we apparently had a need there. Meanwhile, I think its possible the addition of a single player as talented as Watt could improve our defense dramatically, so I can see a strong argument there too. In year 1, Watt was all-pro worthy, while Tyron was maybe slightly below, but lets not forget that Tyron is only 20 and put on a ton of weight before the year, so his season is extremely impressive as well.
As of now, I’m just really happy the 2 guys the organization seemed to be between were so effective year 1. Its a good sign.
thanks
yeah I thought it would make for a good series of articles
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Good idea for a post in the "Silly Season" before anything meanigful happens in the NFL.
Although Watt is a great talent, I think the fact that Tron will be our Left Tackle for the next 12-15 years adds to his value. He’s still a kid and is only going to improve. (Don’t most O-lineman hit their peak around 25 or 26? Imagine how much better Tyronn is going to get!)
In all honesty, I can see Tron becoming a truly HOF-type player in his career. Watt is good, really good, but is he “that” good? I don’t know. But, I think Tron is and will be (as long as he doesn’t go Erik Williams on us and suffer a horrible injury).
I think you can find great defensive lineman easier than you can find a Left Tackle of Tyronn Smith’s caliber. So, I’d have to say the team made the right call on this one.
"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer
Tron really reminds me Erik Williams
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
He is more Walter Jones or Orlando Pace.
Erik Williams was mean, Tyron Smith is just talented.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
Jon Stern
I had a friend with a mean dog, but my friend’s dog couldn’t play Left Tackle in the NFL (the dog would get too many offside penalties and then chew up the flag the referee threw). Erik Williams had immense potential and talent but blew it with stupidity (driving a million miles an hour and crashing his car in the middle of the night and destroying his legs). Before the wreck he was more than just “mean” he also had rare, very rare athleticism for his position. I still remember Madden and other announcers gushing over his play before his accident. He was special.
That being said: If Tron ends up like Walter Jones or Orlando Pace, heck yeah I’ll take that. ;-)
"A successful coach needs a paitient wife, a loyal dog, and a great quarterback. But if you don't have a wife the dog can pull double duty." --Barry Switzer
by Tennessee_Jed on Feb 15, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Quinton Copes
Last year we needed both Tyron Smith and JJ Watt.
Getting Quinton Coples makes up for not getting JJ Watt. That is why it is okay to think about a trade up.
If you are upset about not getting JJ Watt last year this is your chance for a “do over”
Is Coples worth a 3rd and 4th rd pick in your mind?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
Marcus Spears / Justin Tuck
Anthony Spencer / Lamar Woodley
Julius Jones / Stephen Jackson
Handicap the following scenarios:
1) It just so happens that this particular year Tyron Smith and JJ Watt were equally awesome and it didn’t matter who Dallas picked because Smith and Watt are equally good.
2) Dallas homers are overrating a rookie RT that allowed 9.5 sacks (per stats LLC).
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 15, 2012 5:58 PM CST reply actions
I really wouldn't consider myself a homer at all
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think last year was Smith’s year in the minors. Watt is a year older than him.
I think it is more like Randy White /Walter Payton
Dallas had them rated tthe same.
By the way Randy White was out of control his first year. and Walter Payton wasn’t so hot his first year.
Watt wasn’t even the best defensive player in last year’s draft. I bet if the Texan’s offered to trade JJ Watt straight up to the 49ers for Aldon Smith or to the Broncos’ for Von Miller they would get turned down.
I do think Watt is awesome and a special player but I think Smith is awesome and special too too. I think he will be better this year. Also Smith got better as the season went on. This is important to note. How many sacks did Smith give up in the last 8 games.?
The fact is that the Cowboys needed both Smith and Watt but they could get them both.
I think they will have a chance to get a similar type of player if t hey trade up for Coples.
I my opinion the Smith Watt decision can be debated for a long time. The Cowboys got a special player so it is not a problem . The time to get upset is when you miss out on a great player cause you only drafted an average player.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think Smith is a special player man
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
we’ll see.
I think it’s silly to assert that a rookie who allowed 9.5 sacks as a RT is a surefire elite LT, as some people (not you) are doing.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 15, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
not gonna lie
I have some concerns about him moving to LT
I think year one will have some major ups and downs
but I know Free is a beast at RT, that is comforting
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
This
The time to get upset is when you miss out on a great player cause you only drafted an average player.
A couple of examples:
1) 2004: Passing on Steven Jackson and taking Julius Jones 1 round later
2) 2005: Using Buffalo’s first rd pick on Marcus Spears instead of Aaron Rodgers, Roddy White, or Logan Mankins.
3) 2006: Taking Bobby Carpenter ahead of Tamba Hali and Nick Mangold
4) 2006: Taking Anthony Fasano ahead of Devin Hester
5) 2007: Taking Anthony Spencer ahead of LaMarr Woodley
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
a rookie RT
who was the youngest player in the nfl and put on 20 lbs over the offseason.
Watt is better now, I agree. Its absolutely possible he’ll have the better career.But of the two players, I would say Watt is an awful lot closer to his ceiling than Tyron, who is pretty much still a kid yet had an above average year at RT. Those players you mentioned. NONE had the ceiling Tyron has. Spencer and Spears are a bad comparison – both were considered pro-ready at the time they were drafted, while everyone knew Tyron wouldn’t be at his best for a couple years.
You’re also leaving out the fact that PFF had Tyron ranked as a pro-bowl caliber tackle. Different services assign sack totals differently.
I think 2 years from now the worst case non injury scenario for Tyron is that he will be an average starting LT. Best case hes a franchise LT. I think in the end he’ll be reliably protectiing our qb’s blind side for the next decade +, but maybe not at the all pro level.
by foyesboys on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
I think 2 years from now the worst case non injury scenario for Tyron is that he will be an average starting LT. Best case hes a franchise LT. I think in the end he’ll be reliably protectiing our qb’s blind side for the next decade +, but maybe not at the all pro level.
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 17, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
Tyron Smith was a great decision and we needed a offensive tackle in the worst way. Marc Columbo was the worst RT in the NFL in 2010.
if the question is ‘who would Dallas be better off with right now’, then this point is irrelevant. Would Dallas be better positioned with Watt on the roster and needing an OT or with Smith on the roster and needing a defense.
One could argue Smith helped more in 2011 … but who cares. He helped Dallas to a meaningless 8-8 season.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST reply actions
Even with Watt I don’t think the Cowboys come close to making the Superbowl.
I think you are correct about Watt. I just think Smith is going to be really good.
By the way what is your impression of Smith. Lets say Watt had been taken by the Titans , Who would you have had the Cowboys select.
Where do you think Smith ought to have gone in the draft?
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
I’m so glad the combine is only 2 weeks away.
For God and country - Geronimo
by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 15, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
Great idea. I might want to do a post like this on BBV. Permission to use the idea if I give you credit?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST reply actions
sure
just give me a hat tip in the article
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
If you want to know how special Tyron is
Just ask any team who took an offensive tackle in 2010. Who would they rather have their guy or Tyron Smith?
He is easily better than Trent Williams or Russell Okung or Tyron
Game over
Trade Down Last Year and Every Year
- = 16 + 49
- = 26 + 70
- = 45 + 108 + 141
So 1 Tron =
45 Franklin RT
49 Ijalana G
70 Casey DE
108 McCarthy ILB
141 Sherman CB
Also you get 5 starters for the price of 1 Smith.
if those guys aren’t pro bowlers than we messed up.
We don’t need more jags- we need impact players.
You can always get a JAG off the waiver wire.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 15, 2012 8:54 PM CST up reply actions
No, you can't.
Average means that they’re better than half the league, guys that are better than the starters on 14 teams aren’t on waiver wires.
Dont argue with him, He thinks everyone not (insert which ever player he has a hard on for today) is a Jag
Its a pointless loop
LT worth EVERY player the Cowboys drafted from 1981 -1987.
Mario Williams worth every player the Cowboys drafted from 2006 -2009.
But even if we took Reggie Bush or Vince Young -busts we would not have been hurt that much cause we didn’t get any game changing players during that time.
This is how it is.
If your team drafts a bust you replace him with the Jag off the waiver wire
if your team drafts a jag they still got a jag
If your team misses out on a great player they you feel sick.
Proxy you always bark out the conventional wisdom but you don’t have any evidence to back it up.
When you have some evidence to support what you claim let me know.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 16, 2012 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
And the loop continue's already spoken to this,
Thats a retro-active statement, super easy to make a hind site judgement, No player before they step on the NFL grid iron, is worth 4 drafts; let alone 1. That premise is just idiotic.
Also the benefit of preaching conventional wisdom, is I dont need to carry the burden of proof, as my belief is established. It is the person who disagrees who carry’s the weight of proof squarely on their shoulders.
But I already told you, I dislike Quinten Coples, I dislike you and your ideas, but if your right, I’ll change my Tag to Sterns_WhipingBoy406 for the season.
Now Each time I make this offer you haven’t been prepared to make a similar wager; so how bout it John, you feel lucky?
Proxy
It’s possible to disagree with someone and still like the person.
I disagree with Stern about the idea of switching Mario Williams to a 34 DE, but it doesn’t mean I dislike him or how his brain operates. I don’t know him from Adam, but I’d say he’s a decent guy whose an intelligent think outside the box guy.
I tend to agree with him, there are certain players in any sport that are worth two years of draft classes. Ask the Portland Trailblazers how they feel about passing up on Michael Jordan for Sam Bowie or passing up on Kevin Durant for Greg Oden.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
My only Point is you cant make that decision pefore a player has stepped on the field
Yes retroactively, Peyton Manning for example is probably worth everyone’s draft class from the following 2-3 years. Beacuse of the Career he had,
But before Peyton Manning became 18 he could have been Ryan Leaf, or anyone else.
The arent 3 categories Superstar, JAG, Bust, thats just an extremely childish way of looking at things. I think its an extremely uneducated view point. Their is a middle ground between superstar and Jag, this is where teams, good teams are built. Additionally JAG shouldnt be the swear word Stern and others on this board make it out to be, JAG’s or average players are again what solid teams use to fill your holes.
I agree that Mario Williams is an exceptional talent. Would I have traded 4 draft’s for him, NO. Is he probably better than the player we selected in those drafts, well especially the 09 draft. But the point is A player in the Draft Lottery TIcket, you esentially hope that he pans out; but their are plenty of guys holding the first 10 picks in the lottery that dont win.
I think its easy to sit back with the powers of hindsite and throw out phrases like We should have drafted Mario WIlliams, and traded the last 4 years, I just dont think that represents good football knowledge.
Superstars get you Superbowls.
Higher draft choices are statistically far more likely to succeed than lower choices.
Even if the draft picks that you traded away turn into NFL caliber guys if you get a probowl player you are way ahead.
In 1977 the Cowboys traded their number one and three number two picks for Tony Dorsett.
Tony Dorsett played longer in the NFL than any of the players the Cowboys traded for him.
That is NFL history,
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 8:40 AM CST up reply actions
Conversely
The Cowboys had a chance to draft perenial pro-bowl RB Steven Jackson in 2004. Parcells blinked, outsmarted himself, traded the pick and took Julius Jones in the 2nd Rd. 8 years later Julius washed out of the league, while Jackson plays at a high level on a fledgling Rams team. Way to go Tuna. Oh and the killer, that pick Tuna got from Buffalo, was not used on Aaron Rodgers, it was used Marcus Spears.
Tag Team name for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter is RUSH HOUR
not only Mario Williams . Since the Cowboys didn’t get anyone that great over the next four years they would not have been hurt much if they had traded four years of picks for Reggie Bush.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
teams trade up all the time,
It is not that we should have drafted Mario Williams , it is that we have a much better chance at getting a special player by trading up in the first.
Every time you answer me from now on I am going to point out the following :
That view is based on the fact that the every Cowboys first round choice who the Cowboys didn’t trade up for or who wasn’t taken in the top 12 was viewed as a disappointment.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 8:59 AM CST up reply actions
Every player after 12 was a dissapoint
by Proxy406 on Feb 17, 2012 9:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
go to the history of the draft. YOu tell us when the last time the Cowboys hit on a first round pick after 12.
I got 22 years of history on my side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dallas_Cowboys_first-round_draft_picks
What do you got??
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 1:24 AM CST up reply actions
well the got Dez Bryant at 24 but even then the Cowboys traded up for him.Fact for 22 years every time the Cowboys drafted after 12 OR did not trade up their first round choice wasn’t special.
So there you go PROXY
Now go tell us why the Cowboys ought to continue doing things the way they have.
While you are at it tell us why the Cowboys can get by w/o multiple pass rush threats.
I bet I won’t get an answer.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
Emitt smith 17, Holly wood Henderson 18, Bob Lilly 13
those worked out pretty well…
lol
those were the 3 off the top of my head too
Duane Thomas, Calvin Hill, Kevin Smith, Jim Jeffcoat
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
wow you are desperate. You have to go back 22 years to find a really good number one choice by the Cowboys.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
go to the history of the draft. YOu tell us when the last time the Cowboys hit on a first round pick after 12.
I got 22 years of history on my side.
CHECK THE LAST SENTENCE.
Proxy you ought to move to England cause you are just like the soccer fans there.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Jiff Jeffcoat was not a great first round choice in 1983 , not with the talent in that draft.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_NFL_Draft
Do you think Jim Jeffcoat was a good first round choice considering the talent of the 1983 first round?
He wasn’t even the best defensive end in that draft
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
94.5 career sacks is pretty good
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 18, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
Richard Dent
Charles Mann
Leonard Marshall
Were other defensive ends in that draft.
Jeffcoat was pretty good those guys were all better.
the player taken after Jeffcoat Darrell Greene is not only in the HOF but one of the top 100 football players ever.
Other players in the first round that year
John Elway
Eric Dickerson
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Bruce Mathews.
Willie Gault
Chris Hinton
Joey Browner
Curt Warner the RB
even Ken O’;Brian was very good for a season and a half
even Leonard Smith made all pro in 1986
Jeffcoat is a nice first round choice- most years. Not in that year.
Look at all the first round choices that year that were not only pro bowlers but also in the pro football HOF.
Also all the other choices the Cowboys took that year bombed.
Failure in the 1983 draft led to the Cowboys to stop making the play offs only once after 1983.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Dent went in the 8th round.
You cant fault the cowboys for not choosing a player 27teams passed on 8 times. Thats a bull argument. Thats like people saying every team was stupid for not picking brady rd 1. No they wenrt. Obviously in hindsite brady was the best qb or even player in that draft. But he sure as hell wasnt the best prospect.
Thats the problem i have with u stern. Is your logic is faulty, its twisted so much in revisionist history that you cant see the now. I am sure in 5 years their is going to be a prospect that goes in the 4th round or later that turns out to be a superstar. But you know what he did it on hard work andin a system that fit. I am sure you’ll be spouting of this same we missed out line then. But in reality, some team just got lucky. We have players like that too. Romo witten ratliff lee scandric austin. Thats what the process is. Thats why i will never be in favor of morgaging drafts. Just as often as you hit in the top 15 you miss as well. The draft is a high stakes lottery. No one is perfect, no one has a huge margin of sucsess
by Proxy406 on Feb 19, 2012 4:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Now go tell us why the Cowboys ought to continue doing things the way they have.
The process hasn’t worked.
In did not work from 1978 – 1987.
It has not worked for the LAST 20 YEARS.
1983 DRAFT WAS A FAILURE.
And in 1983 Jeffcoat was not anywhere close to one of the better first round picks.
Most Cowboy fans were not even crazy about Jeffcoat in the 80s cause he wasn’t as good as the guy he replaced. .
I fault them for not drafting better than other teams in the first round and in the entire draft.. I fault them for their drafts from 1978 – 1987. You are going to say they were good.
When the Cowboys draft past 12 the player has been a disappointment for 20 years in a row. Except when they have traded up.
The process as it has been hasn’t worked. The process as it has been done is the reason the Cowboys have been 6-10 and 8-8 the last two years . It is why they have only one play off win since 1996 .
As for Romo or Austin , They were free agents and the Cowboys would have had just as much a shot at them had the Cowboys traded up or not.
Statistically players drafted high are far more likely to be stars then players drafted later on. Look at any draft.
Of course some players who are highly drafted fail but they are far more likely to succeed than players drafted later on .
Meat and Potatoes and few stars makes your team like the Broncos of the mid late 80s at best. The team that kept on getting blown out int he Superbowl.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 20, 2012 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
Being skeptical about an obvious talent like Peyton Manning
is just being a contrarion for the sake of it. Anyone who watched Manning and Leaf at college in 2007 could tell you Manning was NFL ready and the better player. Leaf was the bigger arm with worse accuracy and ultimately a crappy mental make up that the Colts, in doing their due dilligence discovered in the months leading up to the draft. They also discovered Peyton Manning’s drive and will to win at the exact same time when he told them, if you don’t take me I’ll kick your a$$ the next 15 years.
I hate the line of thinking that says “whose to say that Peyton Manning couldn’t have been Ryan Leaf in 1998, or whose to say that Andrew Luck can’t be this year’s Ryan Leaf.”
I’ve already made my point about Manning. Regarding Andrew Luck, if he was the next Ryan Leaf, he wouldn’t have excelled as a three year starter at fine academic institution and turned them into a BCS contender his final two seasons. From day 1 he was given the keys to the offense, the whole playbook, the play calling responsibility, and the decision making at the line of scrimmage to make audibles and call out protection adjustments. When you watch College football, you mostly see entire offenses turn towards the sideline for the play calls and the audibles. That didn’t happen at Stanford. During his time, he was the team’s best player, a coach on the field, and their leader. Oh and he completed 67% of his passes and threw 82 TDs to just 22 INTs while playing in the same exact RB/TE heavy offense that the San Francisco 49ers currently operate. He never had a talented receiver, and yet he was able to make all the throws necessary to be a great QB.
This guy will be a great player in the NFL. And any team would be stupid to pass him up if the Colts were dumb enough to not take him (btw they’ll be smart enough to draft him).
You don’t pass on game changing players when one is staring right at you. You don’t blink, you take him and never look back. And your damned best to acquire those game changers if your not in the spot to have one fall to you.
Tag Team name for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter is RUSH HOUR
Your missing my point entirely, I didnt mean that Payton manning was going to be ryan leaf
But before payton manning throws a pass he isnt worth 4 drafts. No player is; no player is a sure thing, beacuse of that no player is worth multiple drafts BEFORE they step on the field. Would I retroactively do that for Aaron rodgers or Tom brady, or Adrian Peterson etc. Sure, but not on draft day, beacuse who’s to say who they are untill they show the league.
Payton didnt have to be peyton he could just as well have been Mat ryan, good to ok qb, certainly not worth a haul, but no one complains if they have ryan under center.
I will say it again, there are more than superstars jags and bust in the draft. That in between is where good teams are built. We have superstars, I would love to aquire more, but what this team neads now more than ever; are that in between blue collor do your job well and play your role type player. We have our Charles Hayler, we need more Jim Jeffcoats.
The Sporting news gave the Cowboys a C+ for the 1983 draft five years later after the draft.
It is also widely believed that the 1983 draft was one of the reasons the Cowboys went down in the 1980’s .
One can also look at Cowboy records after the 1983 draft.
Proxy he will get you to the days of Steven Pelluer
Cowboy records after the 1983 draft
12-4
9-7
10-6 (one and done in the play offs by the Rams 20 -0 )
7-9
5-7 ( without replacement players)
3-13
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
We have our Charles Hayler, we need more Jim Jeffcoats.
unsubstantiated!
in 2011 the Cowboys sent 2 players to the probowl and they went 8-8
in 1993 the Cowboys sent 11 players to the Probowl and they went 12-4 and won the Superbowl.
Dallas sent 11 players to the Pro Bowl after the season, and they could’ve had a few more on defense. If not for Smith’s holdout, this was the type of team that might have made a run at a perfect season.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 18, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
Well here you go
Here all the proof I need. Cowboy drafts 1978 – 1987 most of the time they selected towards the end of the first round.
Cowboys drafts 2006 – 2009
Show me sucessful recent first round Cowboys draft choice when the Cowboys either don’t have a high first round choice or when they did not trade up.
But as I said several times. The only thing that really hurts you on draft day is missing out on great players. Bust or JAG it is not much different.
Here is the other proof. The Cowboys went 6-10 and 8-8 the last two seasons.
Here is more the Cowboys only pass rush threat is DeMarcus Ware. Why do you think everyone just ought to accept it?
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 6:36 AM CST up reply actions
Actually a team can easily go several years without any special players.
See Dallas Cowboys drafts from 1978 -1987. That is nine years the best draft choice during that time was Jim Jeffcoat who never made the probowl ,
The Rams got just as much as the Cowboys did for trading Herschel Walker but they didn’t go anywhere. cause they didn’t use the picks well . Jimmy Johnson made that point in one of his books.
Risk is a two sided coin.
There is a risk of doing something dumb.
There is also the risk of missing out. Don’t you wish you put 20,000 dollars in Apple Computer Computer when it was 200 dollars a share? I know I sure do.
Your bet is dumb because it can take several years for a player to show they are great. See Vernon Davis.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 6:47 AM CST up reply actions
well I don't agree
you classify everyone as great,a JAG or bad. There are varying degrees of all of those really.
I think this team has the top tier talent to win, the problem is they need more consistent players in the supporting cast. We’ve needed a DE who can consistently get 4 sacks a year, an average OG who isn’t slow as mollasses when a delayed blitz is coming, an average center, an ILB who can actually cover rbs and tes and one competent safety.
I didn’t describe all world players right there, but if you replace James, Leonard Davis when he was on the team, Phil Costa last year, Alan Ball/whatever junk we’ve been throwing out at safety the last decade and any of our DEs with those players, we are a playoff team year in year out. Yet according to you, all of those players would still be JAGS, as they are all league average.
Sure, but the Cowboys could get by with the players they have if they had a few star.
If we add in a few solid players as you said :
We’ve needed a DE who can consistently get 4 sacks a year, an average OG who isn’t slow as mollasses when a delayed blitz is coming, an average center, an ILB who can actually cover rbs and tes and one competent safety.
we are a playoff team year in year out.
Maybe. But we go to Green Bay and lose 38- 20. I don’t think that kind of season is really any better than the season the Cowboys just had.
If we add in one JJ Watt and a CB as good as Devin McCourty and a nice guard the Cowboys win the Superbowl.
We don’t need to fix every position.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 17, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
if they are not pro bowl caliber they can be replaced fairly easily.
U can’t replace great players.
by Jonathan Stern on Feb 16, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Neither of those players are half as good as Tron.
You can do that with lots of players too, you’re trying to be too clever and ended up outsmarting yourself.
Since we're playing the hindsight game.
How about Watt paired with Bowen at both DE spots.We wouldn’t be needing the DE’s and our pass rush would have not been as big a problem.I really like Smith, but we were forced to pick him because they let go of Colombo.I guess Colombo needed to go but he did start 16 games for Miami at RT.That fat guy you didn’t want in Bryant McKinnie started 16 games at LT and did well.I really like Smith.I just wish they would have addressed the OL a few years prior and not had to pick an OT because they had no one to man the position.Smith will have to make a smooth transition to LT next year otherwise a player like Orlando Franklin or Marcus Gilbert in the second rd at RT would have been fine.
interesting take
I am a U fan and I think Franklin was seriously over drafted, Washington the G from the U this year is a much better prospect and I doubt he goes as high as Franklin
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 15, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
If we go DB/Pass Rush in Rd1
Would Washington be there when we draft in the second round?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
possibly
by my logic, yes because I think teams will not be guard heavy this year in the first two rounds
usually its tackles that go quickly
say we went defense in the first and he was there in the 2nd, home run pick, he will be a great guard
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
If our two OL in this draft were Washington in Saulsberry
I think we’ve set ourselves up for a nice pair of starting guards for the next 5 years at least.
Call me crazy, but any guy who can start 50 games at 4 different OL positions in the toughest conference in college football, is a guy I want on my team.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
yeah
Saulsberry is a guy I need to start doing some more homework on
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 6:14 AM CST up reply actions
he has what I look for in OL. A meanness to his game that you can't coach up or instill in someone.
Tag Team name for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter is RUSH HOUR
very interesting guy
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
Retrospective analysis is not a bad thing if it provides
some leasons learned that improve future drafting. What were the lessons learned from last year’s draft? I’ll offer these:
1. It’s ok to draft a tackle in the first round (something new for Jerry)
2. It’s ok to draft running backs later in the draft
3. It does not matter how well a lineman can run if he can’t stop a bull rush
4. In general this team has not had good luck drafting later round cornerbacks
5. Safeties need to be drafted since most teams hold onto quality starters
What did we learn??
1. When have we been set at the marquee positions and so desparate for a tackle? never. this was a fluke.
2. Until Murray gets injured again. He must stay healthy for the lesson to stick.
3. Who is the 2012 starting center? If it’s the new improved Costa … scratch 3.
4. No one can bank on later round players. I think Thomas was always a flier in the Cowboys’ eyes..
5. Is safety important? sure, but there was no one last year and barron is the only reasonable candidate this year. is he your #1 pick? what it we can’t get a FA CB?
The books were pretty good especially 1 and 3. In retrospect you cant really argue the smith pick. I was on board with that one the whole way. Taking an injured lb in the 2nd round however………….
JPH
I think 3 was the best
really didn’t love the 2nd one but it was still decent
I really wanted to smack Catnip sometimes though, she was just like Bella Swan
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 9:54 AM CST up reply actions

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