"Cowboys' Sean Lee Is A Pro Bowler" And Other Things We Learned In Mike Mayocks Conference Call
The NFL Network’s lead NFL Draft Analyst and Scouting Combine head honcho Mike Mayock took part in a conference call with national media members yesterday in the lead up to the 2012 NFL Scouting Combine.
Mayock does these calls every year prior to the Combine, but unlike last year, the NFL Network didn't provide a transcript of the call this time, so you'll have to make do with my hastily scribbled transcript below - or listen to a 45 minute part of the call here.
While members of the Dallas media may have been in attendance, no specific questions were asked about the Cowboys in the segment, so Mayock didn't address the Cowboys specifically, but he did talk about a couple of players and topics that are of interest to Cowboys fans.
The soundbite of the day (for me) may have come when he mentioned Sean Lee as a Pro Bowler when he talked about Boston College linebacker Luke Kuechly:
Think about Sean Lee. That’s the best comparison. Sean Lee went in the second round to Dallas but has become a Pro Bowl inside linebacker, and I think [Luke Kuechly] is very similar, has none of the knee issues Sean had and is a slightly better athlete.
After the break, find out what Mayock has to say about depth along the defensive line, offensive linemen and a selection of players that have been (at times) hotly debated on these boards.
The following is all transcribed verbatim from Mike Mayock's conference call audio. Any mistakes or omissions are mine.
Defensive line depth: Defensive tackle is really, really deep this year … I’ve got anywhere from 5-7 first-round grades on defensive tackles. They’re not all going [in the first round]. Probably four or five will go in the first round. … Conversely, not big on the defensive ends.
Cornerback depth: There’s three corners everybody kind of thinks are first round corners and then after that its kinda pick your flavor.
Interior O-line: One of the best classes in this draft are the interior offensive linemen. DeCastro for me is a first round interior offensive lineman. Peter Kontz, the center from Wisconsin is a late one to mid two. I think Zeitler from Wisconsin is also in that same range. And you might be able to get a guy like Ben Jones from Georgia late in the second round. I think there’s a lot of flexibility with that interior linemen draft. In the first three rounds you can get a lot of quality at center or either guard.
On Janoris Jenkins: Janoris Jenkins is one of the ultimate boom or bust guys in this draft. He’s got great ability but has slid a little bit just because of off-the-field [issues].
On Whitney Mercilus: He’s a fairly gifted kid, he’s got some natural pass rush ability. But because he’s an underclassman, we have no official measurements of him. We need to see how big the kid is before we talk about 4-3 or 3-4 or what position. What’s he weigh, how long is he, what’s his arm length – all those things we’ll find out next week.
As far as what I’ve seen on tape, he’s a little bit of a one-year wonder. People will want to know where he was before this past year. Again, natural pass rusher, I don’t think he is stout at the point of attack, I’m anxious to see what he weighs. I think he’s one of those borderline late one to mid two type guys and I think where he’ll be helped though is that there aren’t a whole lot of really strong DEs and OLBs in this draft. So that could push him up a little bit.
On Chase Minnifield: I like Minnifield. Good bloodlines, athletic kid, smart kid, plays well. I’ve got a second round grade on him right now
On Vontaze Burfict: Burfict I’m not a fan of at all …What I like to do is say, forget about all those penalties, all that stuff that surrounds him. What kind of football player is he? And I came away unimpressed. From my perspective, if he gets a chance at a blow-up hit - where he’s going to knock somebody into the next century – he’s going to take it and it’s going to look really good. That’s where he’s impressive. When he sees something, comes downhill and blows it up, it’s really good.
However, the other major percentage of the time, his instincts aren’t good, he gets enveloped by big bodies, he runs around blocks. For a big, strong guy, he’s nowhere near as good at the point of attack as I thought he would be. So that’s even before you factor in all the other elements. So from my perspective, I don’t see first round at all.
Players who need the Combine to up their stock:
- LaMichael James: A player we’ve only seen in one type of offense.
- From the wide receivers, Michael Floyd, Alshon Jefferey and Mohamed Sanu for sure all need big combines and another one is Jeff Fuller from Texas A&M. He is another one of those big-body guys who struggles to separate.
- All those tight ends. I don’t have a first round tight end. They’re all kind of the quick, Hernandez-type people. They’re not in-line type blockers. There’s not a whole lot you can do at the Combine if you’re a tight end except run fast.
- I mentioned Luke Kuechly. If he runs 4.7, in that range, he’s a top 15 pick. If he runs 4.8 or worse, there’s going to be a problem.
- For the defensive backs, it’s all about speed and quickness. A guy like Leonard Johnson from Iowa State, I think he plays better than he will time. If he times poorly, he could be a fourth round pick instead of a second round pick. Trumaine Johnson from Montana, he’s a looong, physical corner. is he a corner or a safety? He might be Malcolm Jenkins. Harrison Smith from Notre Dame. A lot of people think he’s not going to run well. I think he’s going to surprise people. He’s a really good football player. I’ve got a second round grade on him.
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Luke Kuechly:
I am starting to warm to this guy, if DeCastro does go before we pick, and Jenkins stock slides a little more, would it be wrong to take him at #14 and pair him with Lee, then we will have 3/4 of a dominant LB corps, Ware, Lee and Kuechly
Already giving up on Carter?
To me that’s dumb. I love Carter’s upside. Its been one year… I think he has a Sean lee like second year.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 16, 2012 2:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Carter
not giving up at all, we ILB ok not in the 1st round maybe but if he is there and he is top 10 on a lot of boards do we take him under BPA strategy.
by LeedsCowboys on Feb 16, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
You see, right when people start thinking about the draft
Everyone agrees: We just need good football players.
But around this time, people start to focus in on the same 3-4 guys and it’s hard to imagine taking a player that’s not of utmost need for the roster. Then where does that old saying, “We just need good football players” go?
If the scouting staff really believe Kuechly has a top-10 grade, to me it’s like taking Trent Richardson. We already have 2 RBs, but we’d take Richardson. We have 2 ILBs, but we could still take Kuechly. Just go young at the position and that money you may have used re-signing James or signing some other veteran could be used at SS or something.
Personally, all this is predicated on the staff thinking Kuechly is a special player, and I have my doubts. I think they’ll give him a solid first round grade, but have 10-12 players ahead of him.
There's always money in the banana stand.
I agree except in regards to the RB position.
I just don’t see many teams let alone teams with RB committee taking a RB in the first round anymore. Its a passing league.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
But he's an asset and not every team believes in the committee logic
Perhaps even us. Midseason Garrett was happy to have Murray go for 20 carries.
Besides, we’ll have three players with reasonable contracts that are tradeable assets. Maybe we make a draft day deal with the Bengals. Or maybe we’ll just keep him and trade one of the others. I love Murray, but if by week 6 Richardson looks good, we could flip Murray for picks.
It’s all about BPA for me. If you really trust your scouting dept.
There's always money in the banana stand.
When it comes to BPA
I agree. I personally think that Barron would be the better choice than Kuechly at 14 if DeCastro, Coples, Ingram, and Kirkpatrick are gone.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 4:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
That seems a little off to me
Kuechly is the prototype of Lee only uninjured and “a better athlete” while Barron is currently injured and most likely wouldn’t even start ending up on the pup list.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 16, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
Barron will be out until April
according to our resident DB scout Birddog26
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 6:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
thanks! I must've missed that
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 16, 2012 6:33 PM CST up reply actions
Big "if" To Say
Kuechly has Lee’s football savy; Lee is a unique animal and mostly it is between his ears where Lee excells; big words to say Kuechly would be as good mentally as Lee.
ary, I know you've been around the site for a while
but its good to see you commenting a lot recently.
Good stuff; we need to see some fanposts from you!
I can see them doing this
Especially if they give themselves “insurance” during FA by filling holes with serviceable players.
Don't believe everything you think.
any 3-4 defense needs ilb and mlb
We only have 2.. and 1 is proven.. if we do draft him i would be okay.. Todays NFl really requires 4 ILbs
To have 3 very good lbs roaming the field would be a nice upgrade
by lostar2009 on Feb 16, 2012 3:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't see any indication of giving up on carter
I’m not sure of drafting Luke K. Either. If we go to a 4/3 it makes me wonder if there will be enough speed there(lee and LK-obviously not carter). If we stay in 3/4 I think he is a great player but isn’t a huge need right now. But if he us BPA and thats how you draft then take him and be true to your board. But if you can trade down @that point and get more 2/3rd rd picks then i’d rather do that then saturating ILBs. Then fo get someone like dan connor or dqwell jackson in FA for depth. But please have a plan and stick to it. But also realize is we take LK we will also strengthen by subtraction cuz if he gets past 14 we’ll see him 2x a yr. In philly
by gasman8 on Feb 16, 2012 7:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I just don't see the Cowboys giving up on Carter before he has really had a chance.
I think they will hope Carter can step up and look elsewhere with their 1st round pick than ILB.
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
if they take Kuechly
who knows maybe Carter becomes a Safety. He’s got a Safety’s 40
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 16, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe.
But Dallas drafted him knowing they’d have to wait a year before they could get production out of him because they felt that he was first round talent. I just don’t see them trying to move him around.
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
Dallas did move Darren Woodson from LB to Safety
It’s possible.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 3:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
watch the tape from the redskins game where the skins returner is running down the sidelines...
Carter didn’t make the tackle but he had angle and was running the guy down from the other side of the field…..the skins returner is fast….to see that kind of speed from a ILB was amazing…
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by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 16, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Brandon Banks
yeah that impressed me too
this is my take on taking Kuechly, it bothers me but at the end of the day I would still give them an A+ draft grade because he is a great football player
I got a post in the works now, so I won’t go into detail about it, a few days and you will see my reasoning
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
6-3, 233lb safety.
I thought we played out project position switch?
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 16, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
For me
if they take Kuechly in the first, it is a sign that they are going to play more 4-3 this year….move to a hybrid D like the Ravens use……
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Indecision, may or may not be my problem
how is it giving up on him
Tell me, you can’t design a formation to get them all on the field. Or would it be so wrong to have a crazy 3 man rotation so they are all fresh? Kind o flike the giants and DL
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Maybe if we play teams who 3 tight end us all day sure
have at it
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
well we do play the Patriots this year
and if Kuchley= Sean Lee is having two of them that bad?
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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 17, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
nope the boys play the afc north
this yr
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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 18, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions
makes sense to me I'm really excited to finally get to see him play!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 16, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
Or in a 4-3, you become lethal with Kuechly /Lee/Carter for a decade. Top 5 LB core, Top 5 DL with Ware at DE.
Whoops, sorry. Accidentally his post.
I’ve thought about this before. Given Rob’s system, and how the Cowboys defense is game-planned for already (it’s reported they simply consider it a 4-3 Under), naming the front is mostly arbitrary. I could see us running something like a 2-5-4 or 1-6-4, with Rat and/or Hatcher with their hands down and Ware, Lee, Carter, Kuechly, Spencer, and/or Butler on the field at the same time. That’d be a fun one to throw at an offense.
by TheBlueBaron on Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
To soon for inside backer
I think it will the 3rd or 4th round will they start looking for inside backers.
by tattooed cowboy on Feb 16, 2012 2:49 PM CST reply actions
Kuechly
If he is the pick then we r probably going to a 4-3.
Lee=Mike
Kuechly=Sam
Carter= Will
Not bad.
Oh my
I am absolutely all for that. Just do the impossible and nab Mario Williams to play opposite Ware as a DE, Ratliff in the middle and a size guy and BOOM.
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that is why I am so open to it now
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'm assuming Mayock is referring to 4-3 Ds when he talks about tackles vs ends.
Many of the DTs could play either NT or 3-4 DE for us. One of them might be available in round 2.
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I have been musing about this for some time...
I honestly think JG will sign one FA C or G (preferrably a C) and that will be all for the O-Line. I think he invested a year with these other guys and would hate to have to sacrifice another year waiting for the O-line to gel. I think JG will sign a dominating NT, move Rat over, keep Spencer and sign a FA DB, hopefully Finnegan. If every potential player of interest is gone by pick 14 I think they just trade down and get extra picks to fiil the S/LB holes. I could be way off but that is my gutt feeling right now.
better get ROMO a cemetary plot then
because if they stick with 2/3 of what they had this year in the middle he is DEAD.
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 16, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Upgrading one spot on the Oline would make a big difference
Then you switch Smith and Free, that improves the edges. And it would be an offseason of training and camp for the young guys. We didn’t see what Nagy and Arkin can do. This is how you improve the Oline. Incrementally. If guys stay healthy, they jell and weak spots are schemed around.
Giants fans thought they had a lot of weak spots this season and they made it the whole way. If we signed a GOOD center in FA, we’ll have a decent line.
There's always money in the banana stand.
That's an optimist's view......... I'm often guilty of that....
Getting a stud center is a MUST, priority number one. Still think another guard would be great. Maybe one in the draft, the other in FA. Would love to see Romo work behind a top notch line with all the weapons he has on this team. The rest of the draft can go to defense, unless someone really good drops in your lap.
I'm not opposed to a G signing...
if they did I would be OK with it. The offense would roll for sure. I just think the D was the real issue last year and the more there the better.
That was my thinking...
An off season of training and learning the playbook should help big time. It was mostly Free on the edge and Costa getting destroyed in the middle. Shore those ends up and a stud center would could actually call the audible and things are looking good.
What about injuries?
You remember those? Almost a guarantee these days that at least one of your lineman is going to miss extensive time. What if Tron goes down? You obviously flip Free back to the left but then you’d have to plug in Parnell or one of our unproven G/C Kowalski/Costa/Arkin or god forbid Kosier @ RT?
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Visions of that 2009 Playoff game against Minnesota are dancing in my head. We need 2 upgrades on that O-Line. One early round pick in the draft(rounds 1-3) and a FA signing. Costa/Kowalski/Parnell/Arkin can fight for the lone remaining G/C starting spot. While the others are back-ups.
We will have decent depth for our line if we could afford to sign one FA and draft another potential starter.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 16, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry forgot Nagy, will also be in that conversation.
LT-Tron/LG-Nicks/C-Kowalski/RG-DeCastro/RT-Free
Back-up’s:
ST-Parnell
G – Arkin, Nagy
C – Costa
Don’t we normally carry 9 O-lineman?
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 16, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be down w/ that oline Star
u make a great point about injuries, all it takes is murray or jones rolling up under a guy’s leg then bam they could be out for some wks, I think the cheeseheads experienced that late this past season either 1 of their starting tackles got hurt the backup came in then he went out w/ an injury, that’s the nature of football sometimes.
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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 16, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
Incrementally still puts Romo in traction
He does not HAVE THE TIME for the Line to gel.
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 17, 2012 7:02 AM CST up reply actions
Every good line needs time to jell
switching out a bunch of spots, even if you insert talented players, can lead to just as much disaster as what he had last year.
The best lines have home grown players that learn how to play together and maybe 1 or 2 decent FA pickups down the line (so to speak).
There's always money in the banana stand.
LOL squared at
Romo cemetary plot; but you are absolutely correct; poor Romo has taken a beating the last couple of years. It is a crying shame.
Mike Mayock does really good work
i’m starting to like the Minnifeld kid in the 2nd round but i’m also excited to see how Mercilus measures up at the combine.
the 2nd & 3rd rounds in this years draft should yield some really good talent.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I'm really liking Minnifield a lot
Really good at both press and zone coverage. Tackles well. Challenges receivers, deflects
passes, and gets INTs.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 3:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'm thinking Minnifield won't last that long.
I can see the 49ers and the Giants taking him in the 1st. He fits the height/weight/speed/character/bigschool formula that we prefer for first rounders. He’s the perfect cover 2 corner, so I can see Tampa Bay, Indianapolis, and Minnesota also interested in the 2nd.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
New England with one of their two first rounders.....
they need the secondary help and they have Ras A Dowling from UVA last year….Groh is from the Parcells tree and I think Belicheck has ties with him as well tho Groh is no longer the HC at UVA….
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 16, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
New England needs a veteran in there
They have enough young guys.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 6:04 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I like him too
but I have serious questions about him tracking the ball in the air
I saw him get abused a few games, especially against VT and he had real trouble tracking the ball
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions
im thinkin no more short corners below 5'11
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how is kuechly at rushing the passer?
finish the Oline rebuild
by yehti on Feb 16, 2012 3:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
mayock is so overrated
i believe it was this time a couple years ago that NFL scout came out lambasting Kiper, McShay, and Mayock. However, he did say Mayock is probably the hardest worker of the 3, but putting a lot of stock into what he says…probably better take w/ a grain of salt.
I’ll never forget the Dmac combine, where he was ripping him, and then Dmac blazed a 4.26. He was very quiet after that…lol
Wasn't he was ripping DMac
Because he’s a straightline speed guy if my memory serves me right? That was the knock on McFadden, he couldn’t cut back or start and stop.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 4:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i'm searching for the youtube video of this
but for some reason, the NFL has stripped it from everywhere…weird.
as for what you were asking
nope…mayock was ripping him solely for character issues…which doesn’t even makes sense. maybe he was confusing Dmac with someone else.
not true, he said DMac wasn't stout enough in his lower body...legs too spindly
and he was right, DMac has been a china doll ever since he’s been in the league
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O line is deep
I’ve been sold on drafting O-line at#14. But the more I research the board the more I realize how deep of a draft it is at that position. The second and third round will be full of very good offensive lineman which makes lean more towards using the first round pick on the best available CB or DL at #14.
by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 4:45 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
The same logic can be applied to CB, really.
I agree, though, I’d rather use #14 on Kirkpatrick or Jenkins (or somebody like Coples, if he falls) than DeCastro. I know, I know, blasphemy.
by TheBlueBaron on Feb 16, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
combine will show
I don’t see DeCastro’s stock moving far up or down during combine his game tapes should be all anybody needs to see to prove that he is far and away the best G in the draft, so if he’s not our guy or he’s not there at #14….. I think you pull the trigger on The BPA at whichever defensive position it may be
by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 5:52 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Oline is deep with holes on the interior
The best guard prospect is more valuable than the second or third best CB
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 6:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
can't argue that
Isn’t nice having options this time of the year? Seems like its been awhile
by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 6:39 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
it is nice to have options
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 7:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Trade down option?
With so many holes, it seems like it might be wise to consider it IF DeCastro and coples are gone. Trade down to 20-25 or so and pick up an extra 2nd(hopefully). Take Glenn with the first, pick up a CB like Boykin/Minnifield and Ta’Amalu with the seconds and another CB in the third. Just pondering….
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
i like that idea, you could put Konz name into the above scenario just the same.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 16, 2012 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
need an nfl caliber O lineman?
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by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 9:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
throw Boise State into that mix now
They got big dudes who maul up there
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
yep, good call
Coach Petersen gets his lineman nfl ready
by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 9:52 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Baylor
They’ve been putting out some solid players at OL
by P.N.Westernboysfan on Feb 16, 2012 9:58 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah, good catch. I meant to put Glenn/Konz
..but when I type my fingers and my brain ren’t always on the same track.
This draft is deep in interior lineman and corners supposedly, so a trade down for a little more volume might not be worth consideration. I would really like a big NT, so you could draft Poe in the first, then go with a corner and a guard in the second if you choose, also-whichever they have as BPA at that spot.
"I’m not in the meetings and not part of the discussions; it’s not my responsibility. . My responsibility is to go out and win tonight. My focus is to win tonight. The club has to look at more than just this year." -Michael Young
Guys, No to Konz
he has that medical problem
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 17, 2012 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
Blood clots in his lungs.
He’s been fine since his Freshmen year. I’d trust the medical staff over anyone else on this one.
why do people keep insisting on Sean Lee being un-athletic?
really annoys me because the guy is a great great athlete
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 16, 2012 8:06 PM CST reply actions
don't u know bro sean is white
he can’t be athletic haha kidding aside the man is a stud, i’m not buying this whole luke is more athletic than sean, he’ll have to prove it in the big leagues.
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 16, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
Seen Lee is freaking athletic. Just pop in the highlights of his interceptions
Those plays alone show off his athleticism.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
and he explodes so quickly into contact
As soon as he makes a decision to tackle he can explode to the ball-carrier from any angle. I love watching him drop his weight and fire like a missile to make a tackle.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Feb 16, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
during t-giving he made a nice hit on reggie I think
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
"I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker." --Ron Burgundy
by DarkKnight88 on Feb 16, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Rush Hour 4 Starts this August and will run in NFL Stadiums thru the end of the 2012 Season

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 16, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I tell you what
in the jersey helmet and pads, Carter really looks the part
he looks great right there
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
He sure does
Tag Team name for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter is RUSH HOUR
by Rohpuri on Feb 17, 2012 12:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Also making a special appearance at the New Meadowlands in February!
by Omar Little on Feb 17, 2012 12:42 AM CST up reply actions
I guarantee it!
SB Champs!
Tag Team name for Sean Lee and Bruce Carter is RUSH HOUR
by Rohpuri on Feb 17, 2012 12:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
That photo is fantastic Ro
we very well could be looking @ the future rite there on a side note i really wish these players would wear their thigh/knee pads.. No need to increase the odds of an injury.
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
"I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker." --Ron Burgundy
by DarkKnight88 on Feb 17, 2012 2:08 AM CST up reply actions
Lee Can Lay the Wood, for sure
. . . but, his strength is his mental acuity. Thus, not athletic. But, you are correct, he can flat out knock the crap out of you as well as out smart you in a nanosecond. Lee is just a fabulous football player.
yup
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Chia you're spot on about Lee
Kid was an all-state point guard in high school, can’t get more athletic than that.
In Romo we Trust
its just really starting to irritate me
if you watch Sean Lee, idk how you can say he isn’t a great athlete
the guy had 4 INT’s and led the team in that area
I am just sick of hearing about Lee not being an athlete
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
Its a race thing plain and simple.
White guys have great “football IQs” Black guys are great “athletes”. Its silly stereotype and people don’t realize they are even doing it.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Free agency people...
Fill a couple of holes in FA—-Finnegan at corner and Myers or Nicks on the O-line. These are veteran, low-risk players. Narrowing down your needs on Draft Day expands your options. I would love to get Kuechly if other needs are addressed first…
im an opponent of signing Super Mario
but man…. it should would be nice to sign that guy Nicks. Big time o-lineman FA deals seem to be a lot safer than taking skill positions in Free Agency.
I think it is imperative that we draft on the defensive side of the ball and offensive line. Skill players always find Dallas because we’re the Big Star. But we will win championships in the trenches through the Draft, just like when JG was on the team and I believe his philosophy will follow the same blueprint.
Dre Kirkpatrick and the Decastro dude seem to be pretty solid picks…. I’m just praying Jerrah doesnt get fancy, picks the one that is there and move on to the next pick!!
aint happening........
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Ryan- If only i could get that kind of aggression from my. Hey! You gonna eat that ?
Texans .....stand tall and REP !
"has become a Pro Bowl inside linebacker"
well actually not lol. Mayock, yes we know he means pro bowl caliber or worthy…. but then say that… cause he hasn’t actually made the pro bowl yet ya know.
"When you want to win a game, you have to teach. When you lose a game, you have to learn."—Tom Landry
Mayock meant Lee has pro bowl talent which he does
Just because you’re not offically voted in doesn’t mean you don’t have pro bowl talent or ability.
Lee definitely deserved to be voted to the Pro Bowl this season just like Romo. Both had outstanding seasons.
In Romo we Trust
I thought Lee got robbed honestly
Anthony Spencer is not the Egg McMuffin of 3-4 OLB's
by Archie Barberio on Feb 17, 2012 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
it takes guys like Mayock saying this
to get young defenders in to the ProBowl
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 17, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
Lee Will Be All Pro
. . . and skip over the pro bowl thing.
ALL PRO is the only one with meaning anymore
Pro Bowl is garbage
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 17, 2012 7:05 AM CST up reply actions

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