Could Terence Newman have been playing injured?
Listening to Deion Sanders on the Ben and Skin show on 103.3 ESPN radio, Ben Rogers mentioned that he just played basketball with Terence Newman. According to Ben, Terence was as explosive an athlete as he has ever seen up close.
Afterwards, Rogers approached Newman and asked about his performance on the court. Newman responded that he was finally healthy.
This is interesting because earlier in the season, Rob Ryan reported that Newman was injured, but when the reporters at Valley Ranch approached Newman, he calmly denied that there was anything physically wrong.
Looking at the season, however, the theory that Newman was not about making excuses and really was playing injured seems to have some merit. Newman played poorly in the loss to Detroit, registering a negative score (-1.8) from Pro Football Focus (PFF). Considering that he was covering Calvin (Megatron) Johnson during portions of the game, a below average score is not surprising.
Other than that one game, Terence Newman did not register a negative score again until the tenth game of the season, when he played poorly in the second half against the Washington Redskins. Newman never received a positive score from the folks at PFF again.
In fact, going into the game against Washington, Terence Newman had a cumulative score of +5.0. That was the best grade any player in the secondary had on the Dallas Cowboys. Newman had a score of -14.1 through the last 7 games of the 2011 season. After a promising start, Newman finished 2011 with a -9.1 score from the graders at PFF.
If Newman was injured, it probably occurred against the Redskins in week 11 of the season. The injury would explain his collapse down the stretch. The fact that Ryan mentioned it would mean that the coaching staff knew about it.
Taking an in depth look at the performances Newman had during the season:
@ Philadelphia: With a flawed defensive game plan, Newman still managed a +1.0 grade at Philadelphia.
Philadelphia: The second time around, Newman managed but a -0.2 in Dallas.
Washington: Similarly, when the Redskins played at Dallas, Newman was solid, grading out with a +1.8.
@ Washington: In the game where Newman may have gotten injured, Terence only managed a score of -0.3.
In the game preceding the contest at Washington, Newman scored a +1.3 against the Buffalo Bills. Also keep in mind that Rob Ryan began rotating his cornerbacks more frequently around Thanksgiving. Could this have been Ryan looking for an alternative to an injured Newman, but finding out that neither Scandrick (season PFF grade of -5.6), nor Walker (season PFF grade of -5.1), nor Ball (season PFF grade of -5.5) could step up?
So the question remains, could Newman have been injured in Washington?
More importantly, does this change his status going into the 2012 season?
When healthy, Terence Newman has performed well the last three seasons. The key of course, is the health of Newman. Terence missed parts of the 2011 season, and played through injury in 2010. In 2009, Newman was a Pro Bowl alternate (alongside Mike Jenkins).
But spending $8 million on an oft injured cornerback may not be the best way for the Cowboys to proceed. As stated before, getting average performances form cornerbacks would be an upgrade (http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/2/6/2776418/did-the-2011-cowboys-secondary-have-too-many-turkeys) over the performances put forth by the secondary after Thanksgiving.
Releasing Newman and obtaining a mid-level cornerback like Terrell Thomas (from the NY Giants) could improve the play of the secondary. That is only true, however, if Newman continues to struggle through injuries, or does not return to his previous level of play.
The cornerback position is the area of the team in most dire need of improvement. Keep in mind that Mike Jenkins, the best cornerback on the Cowboys in 2011, only posted a score that was slightly above average for the season. Every other unit on the defense has at least one member that plays at a relatively high level, and a handful of average performers. That is not the case at cornerback.
Given the dearth of talent at cornerback, is it worth keeping Newman but acquiring an average cornerback to fall back on when/if Terence gets injured?
What do you think?
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If Newman sticks around he WILL be injured, no question
So you have to ask yourself is it worth it to have the play of an injured Newman most of the year. I would say its not.
Could Terence Newman have been playing injured?
yes. it’s called age.
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by Fan in Thick and Thin on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 PM CST reply actions
This.
And for someone who endures a lot of nagging injuries, things aren’t going to magically get better anytime soon. It wouldn’t be the biggest surprise if he landed somewhere and played average to good ball. But at his age and at his salary, it won’t be for us.
by Nassau Cowboy on Feb 17, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Even if
TNews play fell off so dramatically due to injury and not declining skills, fact is he’s guaranteed to miss several games and be ineffective in others cause he’s fragile. Not worth $8 mil.
If he would take a 50% pay cut to be a nickel back, I’d consider it—playing less might actually keep him healthier. But guys hardly ever take the cut, theyd rather go somewhere else …
by DB23 on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i always like newman
i thought he was a solid no.1… unfortunately, the time has come to release him and save some cap room… he’s not getting any younger, and i have no faith in him staying healthy
sucks, but getting younger is part of the game
by CowboysFan4Life on Feb 17, 2012 12:35 PM CST reply actions
I agree with everything you said
though like DB23 said if Newman were to take a massive paycut, I wouldn’t mind him as the “nickle back”
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 17, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
absolutely
i would love for him to come back, at a much smaller salary… i personally like him as a player, and he would def be a solid sub in…. that might keep him healthy for the whole year too, who knows
by CowboysFan4Life on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
I completely agree with this.
and I actually think it may happen. I think TNew WANTS to be a Cowboy. There were rumors last year that he offered to rework his contract and take a pay cut. Now would he take as big a pay cut as most people want? No, but I think if we cut him we could re-sign him for a very reasonable contract much like the packers did with A.J. Hawk. Although, A.J. Hawk still made a bunch of money and I don’t think Newman would. Cut newmans money in half though and I’m ok with that. As a role player I think he would be phenominal because I think he would stay healthy and I think that has always been Newman’s issue.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 17, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
Now if he restructured his contract to say 3 million it would still put about 5 on the cap for us to use
And then allow us to look for his replacement in the draft and spend our free agency cash on other needs maybe a good Saftey olb and oline right. Would he be able to make the move to Saftey. I’m sure he won’t want the pay cut. There has to be a point where your agent has to know his market price would never be higher than 3 million a year right. Could he make the move to Saftey he has good hands good instincts put would put less pressure on his body. I’d like to try him at Saftey but then again he played corner his whole.career would is be viable to try and make the move. Im not to educated on the free Saftey position I understand the position and the reads and assignments but the attributes needed to man the position I don’t know much about. So do y’all think he could make the switch and be worth keeping on a shorter low cost deal.
by Sado44 on Feb 18, 2012 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Newman could play another good season - if he remains fully healthy
But I’m not willing to bet $8 million on that.
But $2 million or so?
Last year the Packers cut A.J. Hawk because he was scheduled to count $10 million against the cap in 2011. They re-signed him to a new 5-year deal that paid him $1.15 million and a $1.8 million roster bonus in 2011 (plus an 8 million signing bonus that only counted 1.6 million against the cap in 2011) for a total cap hit in 2011 of $4.55 million. I don’t think he was worth even that money, but with that move the Packers got him back for less than half of his original cost.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 17, 2012 1:22 PM CST reply actions
I would be on board with that
solves two problems;
Newman’s cap hit(to a certain extent) and the Depth issue at CB…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 17, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
this is something i would also be in favor of...
but it wouldn’t solve the fact that we still need another starter at cb
if we cut newman, brought him back on at a reduced rate (taking for granted he would want to come back)… and drafted a starter in the first 2 rounds of the draft… and either drafted another, or picked up a solid free agent ala routt… i’d be happy
by CowboysFan4Life on Feb 17, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
+1
i honestly think Newman would take a pay cut to stay in Dallas. Jerrys always taken care of him & its not like Newman needs more money to add to his collection.
his leadership is like that of B.James (another guy who shud come back on a pay cut imo) & from Hatchers quotes they need all the leaders they can get.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I heard that interview also, and cam away with these basic question:
Do you, Jason Hatcher, need a strong leader in order to excel?
If you do not see a clear cut leader on the team, and feel one (such as Ray Lewis) is necessary, why not step into the void and become that leader?
Why would you (Jason Hatcher) air the lack of leadership on local/national radio, instead of taking action and taking ownership and correcting the problem yourself?
Why would you (Jason Hatcher) not include yourself as part of the problem when conducting your interview on the radio?
Classic…
I can see that there are still players on this team are either stupid, lack a sense of ownership/accountability, or are lazy.
leadership is something people talk about in between addressing the real problems like bad cornerback play and bad centers
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 17, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
and IMHO Jason Garrett is the leader, easy answer
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 17, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Damn. Not to mention that's quite a swipe at people like DWare and Rat. Is
he basically saying they’re not good leaders?
To my understand talking to a few players i know from the city
Ware is a silent leader he isn’t to vocal. He leads by example and puts his leadership skills to work on the field not the locker room or sidelines. My understanding is ware inspires people with his willingness to sacrifice his body to be the best he can on every play and the guys see that and play harder when he is on the field. As for Ratliff IV heard that he is so night and day on a daily basis that’s it hard for guys to rally around him when there scared shit less of him. His angry mood before game and during games gets guys pumped up but he isn’t the vocal leader needed. James and lee are purebred leaders they lead on the field and off the field lee will step more into the roll this season its hard to lead a team when your still an unknown on the team. But since lee has shown his skills on the field and knows the team better he should be that leader as James hands over the reins. This could just be there personal opinion but thought I’d share a locker room opinion on the matter.
by Sado44 on Feb 18, 2012 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
who cares this guy stay hurt..
He’ll be injured again later in the season..
Lets just cut ties with the guy so this team may move on.
by lostar2009 on Feb 17, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Not to be rude ScarletO because I love your posts
but does it matter?
First, hes always hurt, and we make that argument year after year, and second hes aging which means he will be hurt more often.
There is no way we can pay Newman 8 million for ~10 games (maybe less this upcoming year) of respectable production. That is just not an option.
I did not interpret your opinion as rude in any manner.
As far as your comment, here is why I believe it matters: Dallas has shown that they are not scared to take chances on injured players. Sean Lee and Bruce Carter were drafted with premium picks despite missing significant time due to injury. Bobby Carpenter was injured at Ohio State before being drafted by the Cowboys.
Jerry has brought in several free agents and traded for players that had a history of suffering injuries. Cowboys fans moan when reminded that Jerry traded for an injury-plagued Roy Williams (WR), who then signed a contract for an average of $9 million per year (estimated).
Age is also not a limiting factor for Jones when looking at free agents. Last season, Jerry was willing to pay big money to acquire Nnamdi. If Jerry believes that the player can play at a high level, Jones is willing to take the chance on him.
The Cowboys, however, rarely squander big money on players that are done. Keith Brooking, Zach Thomas, Phillip Sparks, Drew Bledsoe, and others were signed to reasonable contracts in an effort to squeeze one or two more seasons from their aged bodies.
If the Cowboys believe that Newman is not done, but rather was limited due to injuries, from a historical perspective that would give Terence a much better opportunity to play in Dallas next year.
i don't care if he wants to stay he should take a big paycut
i hope that or him in any team but dallas
Agreed, his current price tag is way too much
I wouldn’t mind having him back but he would have to take a huge paycut which i don’t think he would cause it would cancel out a lot of the guaranteed money he is owed
by somebodyquiet on Feb 17, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
i wouldn't mind seeing Newman at $2 million next season
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Newman was clearly injured
but he’s 33 and that happens more as you age. Dallas can’t afford to pay him $8 million, and have his play be up and down like it is
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If he would take the pay cut
I’ll gladly wear my newman jersey one more year.
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if T-Old was playing hurt bravo for sticking it ouy
even if hes “finally healthy” at his salary he needs to be released. if he is willing to play for minimal salary then by all means bring him back and he can be the 4th corner. i highly doubt he wants that and i wouldnt blame him. i appreciate everything he did for Dallas but his time needs to be over. like the military its a young mans game, it gets harder the older you get.
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by yehti on Feb 17, 2012 8:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You have to play hurt when...
you’ve got Jenkins on the other side. He is made of glass already. At least Newman is old. On the other Jenkins (Janoris)….I watched videos on him from 2010 at Florida and I was completely unimpressed. He didn’t show me anything great in coverage. We would have the worst tackling starting CBs in the league with Jenkins and Jenkins. I don’t care about the guys height either. It’s his overall size in general and he doesn’t play big. A total ankle tackler. No frame to add bulk . And he is a reapeated criminal. I would be pissed with this pick.
From the eyeball test I like:
1. Kirkpatrick
2. Gilmore
3. Claiborne
4. Minnifield/ J. Fleming
The bottom Gilmore/Minnifield/Fleming could possibly be gotten in second round or later
Jenkins needed shoulder surgery last season
He played lights out in ‘09, slipped in ’10 when most of the team quit on Wade, but recovered last year but was hurt. I don’t know if one year banged up mean he’s injury prone.
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No, he was playing old.
Could Terence Newman have been playing injured?
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
If he was playing injured, is anyone surprised by this?
I see no hands raised as and ambiance of crickets chirp in the background…
"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle, victorious." –Vince Lombardi
Newman's been made of glass for years
and he’s old. Of course he’s a bit banged up and he probably will always be that way as long as tries to stay in football shape. Unless he’s willing to take a sharp pay cut, let him leave gracefully this offseason with our thanks for the years of decent service (not counting last year of course)
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