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Michael Irvin: "Dez Bryant will be the best receiver in the NFL.''

The Dallas Morning News ran a brief report earlier today in which it quoted Michael Irvin as follows:

"I thought Dez made great strides this year on the football field,'' said Irvin, who stressed Bryant must continue to work on his craft and conditioning. "He has a lot of room to continue to grow, but he made great strides.

"When Dez really locks it all in, understands it, Dez will be the best receiver in the NFL.''

One of the peculiarities of being a Dallas Cowboys fan is that you constantly hear about how a player on your team, a coach, the stadium, the cheerleaders - really anybody and anything associated with the franchise - is overrated. This of course is the default setting for any non-Cowboys fan, and as such is so prevalent everywhere you go and everywhere you look that even some Cowboys fans have succumbed to this notion.

Take Dez Bryant: Ask anybody but the most die-hard Cowboys fan about Bryant and the most common response you're likely to get is that he's overrated or possibly a disappointment, perhaps even a bust. Chances are, when you first read the headline to this post you probably thought anything from "Irvin is going out on a limb here" to "That's just crazy talk".

But is Irvin's statement really such a stretch?

Star-divide

Here are some highlights of Bryant's 2011 season:

  • Lowest drop rate of any wide receiver in the league (one drop against 63 receptions)
  • Ranked sixth in TD receptions.
  • Ranked ninth in 1st down catches on 3rd down
  • Ranked 10th among wide receivers according to the Pro Football Focus Grades
  • Ranked 13th among wide receivers by Advanced NFL Stats in Win Probability added per game
  • Ranked 13th in DVOA by Football Outsiders

These numbers make a strong case that Bryant is already a top ten receiver in the league - or very close to it. There's no reason to think that with continued hard work he couldn't become one of the best at his position. Whether that'll be enough to become the best remains to be seen. A lot of things would have to fall in place for that, but a top three receiver, why not?

What do you think, is Irvin's statement a stretch or a good possibilty? The Playmaker believes in Dez, do you?

Hat tip to LilZtretch for the fanshot

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Mmmm ... draft season ... a time for optimists :)

by DalaiLuke on Feb 3, 2012 2:07 AM CST up reply actions  

When If Dez really locks it all in, understands it,…”

You’re welcome, Mike.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I believ 100% that Dez will soon be the best playmaker in the NFL. Period

First, we gotta shore up that O line and give Dez some time to run his routes.

by matt575 on Feb 2, 2012 5:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Lets not bring out the anointing oil just yet

for Justin Blackmon

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 2:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Or Bryant

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Dez might be a great player some day, but he’ll never be on the same level as guys like Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. Irvin needs to take off the goggles.

by JimmyK on Feb 2, 2012 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

says the closet cowboys fan

I can see that blue and silver 88 jersey on underneath your shirt jimmyk. Calvin Johnson never had a great season until this year. By the time Dez hits his stride Larry Fits will be an old, slow possession receiver a’la hines ward.

by matt575 on Feb 2, 2012 5:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Thats stretching it

Calvin Johnson has always had great season even with crappy QBs. This year was a whole never level though. And Hines Ward was never as good as Fitz, they should never be compared.

"People don't really understand the light that I bring and just kind of shine on my teammates."
-Actual DeSean Jackson quote

by CaliCowboysFan92 on Feb 2, 2012 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Megatron makes Stafford look above average!

However, Dez has more talent and a higher ceiling. Johnson is as good as he is due to shear size. Dez can and will be as good if not better.

"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!

by mho on Feb 3, 2012 12:36 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Dez most certainly does not have more talent than Calvin Johnson.

by JimmyK on Feb 3, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I fully agree

Talking about Dez in the same sentence as Fitz is craziness. I would trade Dez for Fitz or CJ right now without a second thought. Even with Fitz bring a little older

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 3, 2012 8:35 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Dez can be as good as he wants to be. All he must do is work hard on his routes

and timing with Tony, study film, etc., and greatness can be his legacy.

Wish you were here and comfortably numb.

by pfloyd1 on Feb 3, 2012 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree.

We will see. He has the drive, and many people speak highly of him. I’m just a fan at this moment.

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 5, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Jimmy doesn't wear a shirt...

He wears a green, spandex body suit!

by BVandy on Feb 5, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.... NEVER say NEVER.....

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.
Winston Churchill
We Fight On !!,That's The Cowboys Way !!.
Go Cowboys!!

by scotscowboyfan on Feb 3, 2012 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  


The name’s…

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

This simply isn't true

Physically he’s every bit as good as Fitzgerald, he doesn’t have Calvin’s height but there’s no reason that he can’t provide the same type of value. The way he sheds tackles and roughs up defenders. His first big catch against the Jets? Where it took like five guys to take him down? That’s how the dude plays. He’s struggled with injuries the past two years, and judging by his cramps and pulls he needs to improve his conditioning and judging by his Twitter feed he needs to work on his diet. He’s not one of us, he’s a pro athlete. I’d honestly love for Terrell Owens to train with him. Hell get the Playmaker himself to give him pointers on training and conditioning. So while, I’ll agree it’s unlikely he’s Fitzgerald or Megatron, it’s unlikely ANY WR is that good even AJ Green and Julio Jones, it’s still possible. So I’ll point you to an old song, a song that I hear that the Eagles listen to for motivation in the locker room:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w&ob=av3e

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Less time being a twitterer, more time being a pro.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Plenty of athletes and other successful figures tweet a lot. That's not the problem.

He needs to stop tweeting from Hooters and places that serve lots of fried seafood and start tweeting from Whole Foods.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Miss the bold?
Birds tweet. People twit.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll say this.

He’s poised for that 3rd year WR break-out. I hope he seizes the moment. I could see a BIG year from him next year, if we…

by StarloverinWNC on Feb 2, 2012 5:45 PM CST reply actions  

At this very point in time, these are the WRs I'd take before Dez (not in any specific order)

Larry Fitzgerald
Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
Wes Welker
Brandon Marshall
Mike Wallace
Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe
Roddy White
Steve Smith (CAR)
Marques Colston
Jordy Nelson
Greg Jennings
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Jeremy Maclin
Miles Austin

That would put Dez 18th and in the same tier as Desean Jackson, Julio Jones, AJ Green. In my eyes, being the 18th best WR in the league in only your 2nd year is extremely good. It’s obvious that the upside is there, and what he does next year will go a long way in determining where he places himself among the other WRs. His career trajectory at this point is similar to that of Jeremy Maclin as of right now, but we’ll see.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 5:54 PM CST reply actions  

I thought your team had a game this Sunday?

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Feb 2, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Notice the 2 Giants receivers on there?

What a joke. Dez is better than both of them if Austin stays healthy and we sign Robinson. Without Austin, Dez is double teamed and has less chances. Cruz may have been a one year wonder. We’ll see.

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Feb 2, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha

No replies.

Don’t you realize that Dez Bryant is Ranked 13th in DVOA by Football Outsiders THIRTEENTH IN DVOA BY FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS!!
Being thirteenth in a football acronym automatically makes him the best player in the NFL. Homer math.

I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.

by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Did you read the post?

I don’t think that was asserted.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Feb 3, 2012 2:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I see where your coming from BBI.

Nicks and Cruz are top level talents. But so is Dez. The difference is NY has a solid o-line that gives Eli twice the amount of time to throw as Tony gets. This allows nNicks and Cruz more time in their routes than Dez, Miles & Robinson. Thus allowing for much more production. Give Romo Eli’s time to survey the field and all three of our wide outs have more production. On top of all that Witten was targeted 117 times for 79 receptions and 942 yards. Your TE 60 for 38 and 609 yards. Just my thoughts. Oh and Nicks and Cruz were half of Eli’s production Romo spreads the ball around a lot more as three of our receivers had over 850 yards! I’d rather have four guys over 500 yards (miles had an injury plagued year and amassed 579 yards) than two 1k receivers any day. Plus all four of Tony’s targets can be 1k receivers if the team needed it. In fact I would say that if the FO shores up the interior line then Romo could come close to 4800+ yards passing! (that is just my opinion).

"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!

by mho on Feb 3, 2012 1:04 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

FootballOutsiders rated the Giants OL as 4th worst in the league I believe.

PFF graded David Diehl as the worst OL in the entire league, and the line as a whole as the worst in the league. Eli Manning was actually pressured 70 snaps more than Tony Romo was (244 vs 174): http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/31/pressure-and-the-2011-quarterbacks/

We have a terrible OL haha, worse than the Cowboys :(

I understand the point about Romo spreading it around more….and I think that’s more a testament to the types of offenses they run. Witten >>>>>>>> Ballard in terms of offensive capability….so he’s involved a lot more, whereas Ballard is used 65% of the time as a blocker that turns into an emergency outlet receiver.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

PFF rated it even worse.

Looking forward to Andre Carter and his “sack”

…hoping someone gets that reference.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowest drop rate in the NFL.

Or do you prefer guys that put it on the ground on third downs?

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 5:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I must agree again.

I would place Dez higher than eighteenth.there is a point, though, when a fan must acknowledge that raw productivity and numbers DO count at the wide receiver position. Naturals are cool, but if Cruz is going to produce, you play him over anyone else.

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 3, 2012 8:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Measurables

What is the star now? A fallen piece of hardened plastic? The heaviest franchise in American sport? A false idol adored by many millions? The epitome of all that can be achieved with hard work? All that can be lost with too strong a sense of entitlement? A welcome coping mechanism, distracting from the real negativity on Earth? A bonding and separating agent?

by BlueNSilverBlood on Feb 3, 2012 8:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

yessir

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez was also out for six games and struggling with injuries for at least half of them.

Victor Cruz just had this one big year. Granted it was awesome, but better than Nicks? I doubt it. If were going to talk one big years what about Laurent Robinson? Eighth in DYAR but 3rd in DVOA, a mark at 43.1% better than the average receiver adjusted for defense and the guy covering him, Cruz’s was 33.3. Robinson’s mark was almost ten points better, that’s pretty damn good. So does that mean that Robinson is better than Cruz or in his league? Does that mean that Robinson is better than Dez or Austin? My answer to Victor Cruz is Laurent Robinson, both talented WRs that any team would love to have…I’d probably give the nod to Cruz, but it’s not by much. They’re both players without much of a pedigree that just exploded this year. Bryant and Nicks beat the both of them in PFF’s metrics. I would still take both Bryant and Nicks going forward because of the difference in physical tools and pedigrees.

As far as the Dez/Nicks comparison? I would say that for Dez’s second year it was better than Nicks’ second year despite playing fewer games. He had a slightly lower DYAR but a higher DVOA by about seven points. So while Nicks is the superior player now, Irvin’s statements are about what Dez will become. Dez needs to do work to get there, but even on his career trajectory right now he’s on pace to be superior to Nicks. That trajectory can skyrocket if he takes the same 3rd year jump that most elite WRs take and/or if he improves his conditioning and diet.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Try reading what I said again.
Dez is better than both of them if Austin stays healthy and we sign Robinson

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Feb 3, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i like dez as everyone here, but nicks and cruz are the shit

coincidentally i wanted both to become cowboys before draft process, i hate they’re playingwith the g-girls, i hope at least cruz will be in other team as soon as possible

by ratware on Feb 2, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I always thought Brandon Tate was better than Nicks

This from a Carolina fan …

Mmmm ... draft season ... a time for optimists :)

by DalaiLuke on Feb 3, 2012 2:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, this post doesn't imply one thing strongly enough:

Thought … as in past tense… not present or future!

Mmmm ... draft season ... a time for optimists :)

by DalaiLuke on Feb 3, 2012 2:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he was the number 1 WR for a year or two while Nicks was back at UNC

In any case, my original point for all that crap is up there was to point out that Dez has incredible upside…and in only his 2nd year, I’d put him as the 18th best in the league at a position that has 40 (realistically, 60 if you include slot guys) starters.

I knew someone would probably ask who I’d rank higher, so I just pre-empted that by saying it lol.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

You know you've hit the limit of the amount of coverage you can take when

you watch Madonna’s press conference live. I need to get my mind off it. I just want the damn game to come already.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

That dude who asked her for a kiss at the end of his question

had some ball$. I’m surprised the security didn’t see past this.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Wtf? Damn, I got played.

I knew he looked familiar, but damn.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 2:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

his career projectory as of right now is better than what michael irvin put up in his first two seasons

He may fizzle, or he may sizzle, only time will tell. Good to see you again BBI

by matt575 on Feb 2, 2012 6:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Irving was also hurt his rookie year.

His 2nd year was 1989.

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Feb 2, 2012 6:09 PM CST up reply actions  

same to you mate.

Nicks-Maclin-Wallace (and shortly after, Dez) have historic career trajectories. Very few have accomplished what they’ve done in their first 3 (or 2) years of their careers.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Same could have been said for

Troy Hambrick and Aveion Cason.

Let’s judge Dez’ work when he has done enough to judge.

I only show up to mock other posters, jeer at the writing here, and make strange complaints about internet culture.

by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Dwayne Bowe? Seriously?

By the way…the servers for this blog is going crazy***

by CaliFanInTx on Feb 2, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I wasn't able to get on for some time.

As far as Dwayne Bowe goes…he’d been putting up real good numbers with Matt Cassel. Imagine what he does with Romo at the helm instead?

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

why not? In almost every year of his 6 years...

his production has outstripped Dez’s. He’s a bit low on TDs, and his worst season was last year when he had Chad Henne at QB.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Why not?

More yards, more catches, more YPC, same number of TDs, higher catch percentage, 4th in DYAR (Dez is 13th)…both have limitless upside.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

his QB makes him look better than he is, he doesn't have the speed to keep up with most corners

he fits into that system well but he doesn’t rank with Dez… might be a 1-year wonder

by scraig on Feb 2, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Dez hasn't had a top 10 or even top 15 year in his career though....

Cruz has more yards this year than Dez had in both his years combined, and Cruz only played in 14 games.

Cruz has plenty of speed, he runs a 4.44…which is good enough…he made his LIVING on YAC….he gets separation by being an amazing route runner and having excellent body control (shielding the defender away from the ball, getting to the highest point beforehand)

As for the QB…Cruz has Eli and Dez has Romo…not a huge difference, if any, there.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

wow!

I have never heard a Giants fan complement Romo! Kudos!

"Fear the Star" -A WISE Man!

by mho on Feb 3, 2012 1:06 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

to Eli, right? :)

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 7:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Rice, Largent,...

Cruz needs to Do It Again.
Dez needs to Do It.
Period.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑↑

Only a classy knowledgable Cowboys football fan would do her/his part in greening that.

Author-exception.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

consider it green'd

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 4, 2012 2:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Higher catch percentage?

You mean he didn’t drop any balls? I believe you’re looking at the wrong stat.

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 5:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Higher catch percentage means

the percentage of receptions compared to his targets. Ex: Catch percentage of 60%…so Dez caught 60 balls out of 100 thrown his way, etc. Different than drops.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like drop rate.

But modified to be less accurate, by introducing other variables. Maybe if Romo threw against Newman twice a year we’d have better “catch rates”.
What you’re saying is that when you throw the call to Cruz or Nicks, they have a better chance to catch it. Once it hits their hands, things get shaky.

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 9:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

they might have their drops, no doubt. But that's only one factor. When you look at the constellation of

stats, they beat out Dez in most everything.

Both Nicks and Cruz are catching more passes coming their way and doing more with it when they catch them. Nicks has a 15.7 YPC with 5.0 YAC, Cruz has an 18.7 YPC with 7.4 YAC. Dez Bryant has a 14.7 YPC with 5.0 YAC.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 3, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree that they're more efficient targets,

catching the ball further downfield and running as far as, if not further, than Dez. I just won’t concede to the “catch rate” being more important than drop rate. Again, you got to play against our secondary twice, and Green Bay’s twice for good measure. Those are for games against weak secondaries we weren’t afforded, which muddies the comparison of catch rate, making it less telling than drop rate.

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 10:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Only if

The fluky production continues, and Dez never improves.

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

A slipping defender leading to

Ridiculous yards after catch numbers. Cruz isn’t a guy pushing forward for extra yardage like Bryant. Perhaps they should check median YAC, because Cruz seems to be fairly easy to tackle, and doesn’t gain anything extra when the defender’s in position.

People called Austin’s break out season fluky, but his touchdown catches were after breaking tackles, not watching defenders tackle each other.

by CotySaxman on Feb 3, 2012 2:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I’m not quick to ‘annoint’ after one big year. I’d take Dez over Cruz despite the fact that Dez hasn’t put up numbers the way Cruz did this year. Dez looks like a special player to me, Cruz doesn’t.

by BigDumbFace on Feb 3, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

me too

The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load

by DIRE WOLF on Feb 3, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

My thoughts...

Better and proven to be top tier WRs:
Larry Fitzgerald – Some of the best hands and willingness to “go get it”
Calvin Johnson – Great all around WR and has amazing size
Andre Johnson – Takes a beating with all the catches, but amazing separation and hands
Brandon Marshall – MAJOR character concerns, but has the skills
Dwayne Bowe – Maturing every year even with Cassel throwing
Roddy White – Still getting it done, not the best but still top tier
Greg Jennings – High flying offense tends to make you forget how good he is (like Colston)
Reggie Wayne – Elite every year with Peyton. QB situation last year was not his fault.

Good but not great:
Hakeem Nicks – He is good, lets not forget how far he has come the past couple years
Miles Austin – He is good, needs to stay healthy.
Stevie Johnson – Out of nowhere this guy makes plays and has little help on the Bills
Wes Welker – Playing the slot with Brady throwing it is the only way this dude is relevant. He has heart and guts, but he isn’t elite and cannot do anything unless he is in the slot.
Mike Wallace – Speedy receiver is about all I would call him for now.
Vincent Jackson – Diva who blows up for certain games and disappears ALOT
Marques Colston – High flying offense but still very good
Steve Smith (CAR) – PURE HEART and finally got a QB this year and still going for undersized
DEZ BRYANT – Good WR who plays hard, but needs to keep his focus and play smart so he can stay on the field longer and earn the trust of his QB/Coach.

Sample Size is too small:
Jordy Nelson – Like Wallace but on a high octane offense means more YAC and TDs.
Victor Cruz – He has flourished playing the slot and burned alot of teams this year. I would consider him elite if he could do for another year and lineup outside
AJ Green – He should grow to be a great top-tier WR very soon
Julio Jones – Looking more like Vincent Jackson

screw you and your logic -definitely not me

by fuji1232 on Feb 3, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Michael is being Michael ...

… which is not putting a filter on his thoughts before they pass through his lips.

Irvin is getting paid by the NFL Network because he is a hype machine. He may have some good insights but they are obscured by his “crazy talk.”

by Conn Cowboy on Feb 2, 2012 6:08 PM CST reply actions  

crack cocaine is a hell of a drug

That being said, I still agree with the man.

by matt575 on Feb 2, 2012 6:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It wasn't his.

It was his cousins.

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Feb 2, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

riiight riiight

Just like how when ky parents found my weed pipe I was “holding it for a friend”. I love Irvin, but man… He smoked crack.

by matt575 on Feb 3, 2012 5:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Prove it.

"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson

by Mikellie on Feb 3, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

this next year will tell

3rd year is breakout year for WRs and I know his new agent will push for a top 5 season because they can renegotiate after year 3. We will see his potential this season the question in my mind is what will year for be like?

Hell and Horse Manure.....HIT SOMEONE

by sexililkitti on Feb 2, 2012 6:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

this next year will tell

3rd year is breakout year for WRs and I know his new agent will push for a top 5 season because they can renegotiate after year 3. We will see his potential this season the question in my mind is what will year for be like?

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by sexililkitti on Feb 2, 2012 6:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Do you think that maybe this next year will tell?

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by Mikellie on Feb 2, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

thats my boy, thats my boy

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by Archie Barberio on Feb 2, 2012 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

2nd 88 had blow, 3rd 88 has bling

Difference? Irvin dominated on the field regardless of his issues off of it. No one ever questioned his heart, dedication and skill. IF Bryant can do the same, step up and learn, work hard and put it all on the line… It should be fun to watch.

by Baloo. on Feb 2, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

Number one receivers usually play on a team that has no running game.

We will have a great running game starting next year and into the future, so Dez’s chances will probably be about the same as this year’s total.

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by Mikellie on Feb 2, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Andre Johnson would disagree with you on that.

Irving seem to have done fine with 22 in the backfield

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by djthumpl on Feb 2, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think Dez will ever be enough of a technician to be #1

He hasn’t put in enough time perfecting his craft. He runs sloppy routes, and like we saw with Roy Williams, running bad routes isn’t something you can just fix. Sometimes it’s just a flaw of a player.

by Blue Eyed Devil on Feb 2, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think he cares

I think he’s lazy and won’t do what it takes to become a consistently dynamic play maker.

Michael Irvin worked harder than anyone else on the best Cowboys team ever. Dez Bryant does enough to get by. He’s JAG made better by Romo and Garrett. If he ever took the time to eat right, prepare his body, study the play book and practice running routes like they matter, then he may be a great football player.
Does anyone think he’s going to mature suddenly? He’s already rich and people are writing articles about how he’s going to be the best WR.

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I would agree that Dez isn't a top WR, but a JAG?

Really? That’s pretty harsh.

I think this next year has to be his year. He improved on his rookie year last year and if he improves again he would certainly start to enter top-WR discussions.

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by Creasy729 on Feb 3, 2012 2:10 AM CST up reply actions  

ok ok

that was hyperbolic on my part. I just have an uneasy feeling he’s Antonio Bryant with more potential. Potential and sh!t till it’s utilized.

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I mean realized

not utilized.

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions  

A city in Texas...what about it?

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by Mikellie on Feb 3, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

LOL I hate that mistake too.

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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 5, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you saying that Houston didn't have a running game?

Seriously?

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by Mikellie on Feb 3, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

What I like most about Dez

is that he knows how to go after the ball. He wants it, and he wants to do something with it after he catches it. He’ll contort his body, reach behind himself, or reach over the defender. Now, if we could just get Romo to look his way after halftime.

by Silverblue on Feb 2, 2012 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Romo and Dez better have a connenction this off season.

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by Kevin L on Feb 2, 2012 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

It's a lonely fight

Fortunately, Brookings, Columbo and Terrance Newman all won’t be on the team in 2011. Good thing though that Whitten and Demarcus will stay. And I have great hopes for Lissimore, Fiamatta and Demarco next year.

by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 3, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh man

the best one I’ve read for Witten was my Ipad auto correcting his name as Wittenberg.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 12:39 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

LMAO OCC

I’m one of those who misspell names all the time. Sorry if it irks ya’ll but I know the difference in Irvin and Irving. Irvin is a player Irving is the city Texas stadium was in!

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by mho on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

well played

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 1:21 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was wondering why you guys cared what my accountant thought about Dez

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by Seanrude on Feb 3, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

As long as Dez keeps making strides (which I think he will)

I could care less what the perception of his ranking in the league is.

If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.

by Creasy729 on Feb 2, 2012 9:59 PM CST reply actions  

When McGee takes over as QB... or Miles and Wit leave

until then Tony will always see Dez as his #3 target… just wait ’til Demarco is healthy, he might be target #4 then. With McGee in there Dez is the #1 target guaranteed.

by scraig on Feb 2, 2012 10:10 PM CST reply actions  

Footsteps McGee? That's pure comedy.

You should quit your day job and start getting stand up gigs at comedy clubs.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 2, 2012 10:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Bryant would be a top receiver if Romo wasn’t his QB. Romo is holding him back.

Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs

We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.

by Brandon10 on Feb 2, 2012 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

this is to Scraig and Brandon10:

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 2, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

LOL

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 2, 2012 10:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

?

insanity

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

you're a fuc&ing idiot

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by DIRE WOLF on Feb 3, 2012 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

here's a hint

when you use “Pro bowl” to validate your argument…you lose all credibility.

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by Rat-Pack on Feb 3, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny

Cowboys could’ve stayed put in that draft and gone:
Devon McCourty at DB
Sean Lee ILB
Navarro Bowman ILB
But they traded up to get Dez with New England. They traded up to get Dez because Jerry lost draft picks the year before with Roy Williams.
Sigh.

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 1:13 AM CST reply actions  

I'll do you one more

Dallas’ 2009 first, and 2010 first, second, third would’ve looked like this if not for Roy Williams trade:

2009
#20: Hakeem Nicks

2010
#27: Devin McCourtey
#55: Sean Lee
#90: Navorro Bowan

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 1:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

our 2010 4th that we gave to NE, it could've been

Safety Kam Chancellor

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 1:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

& Marcus Spears could have been Aaron Rodgers

We can do this all day. No scout or GM is perfect. Go listen to some Hawthorne Heights

by matt575 on Feb 3, 2012 5:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

marcus spears waste of a first rd pick

if you’re going to pass up on a blue chip RB, you better use that extra pick on a meaningful player-doesn’t necessarily have to be Rodgers.

I’m fine with the 2010 & 2011 drafts, however, I will not defend the Spears pick, or the Bobby Carpenter pick as “the draft being a crapshoot!” The first 3 rounds are not crap shoots.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 11:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Spears I'm okay with second guessing

They already had Ware and Romo at that point and the 2010 and 2011 classes haven’t had a chance to establish themselves to see who’s a playmaker and who isn’t. For all we know Dez could be better than Roddy White. I did like the Spears pick at the time, it seemed like he could do what I thought a 34 End should do at the time. I recall all the mediots loving that first round, if that means anything. Carpenter was an awful pick…hated that move. Stupid Jerry, wait what?

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Carpenter was a Parcells nepotism pick

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Flagged. Carpenter is why I'd keep Tuna out of the Hall...

… of course, I’m also an old Cowboys fan who despised the man, especially throughout the ’80’s, so there might be bias at work here.

by revellyre on Feb 4, 2012 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I wish I could rec this twice.

Mainly for the “go listen to some Hawthorne Heights,” though I do believe in the main point.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Ehhh

If the Roy Williams trade isn’t made there’s no telling how the rest of the 2008 season turns out or the 2009 season. Same thing with Nicks is taken in 2009…and there’s nothing to say that Nicks would be the pick, I’d say it would have been Alex Mack. Then you don’t know where they pick in 2010 and there’s no telling if the Pats don’t just take McCourty where they originally picked. Too many what to get this accurate of a picture.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

if those three draft picks defensive draft picks are on the team, Wade Phillips is still head coach. Pretty weird, eh?
The defense would’ve been absolutely sick towards the end of last year and certainly this year. C’est la vie.

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by Joey2zs on Feb 3, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

"Lowest drop rate of any wide receiver in the league (one drop against 63 receptions)"

That is amazing and I didn’t realize that fact.

He has vacuum hands. Sometimes he lets defenders break up his catches which may not count as a drop, but it’s hard to complain too much about that when whenever he does get a clean shot at the ball, he almost always comes up with it. This the the #1 skill of a WR. Catch the ball. And it’s something that can only be coached to a certain limited degree, you either are born with huge hands and excellent eye-hand-body coordination or you’re not. And maybe it’s the ultimate limiting factor. There’s a lot of other things that go into being a WR, but in the end you can only be as good as you can catch. So what this means to me is that his ceiling is… well he doesn’t really have a ceiling. Which is to say, if he gets the other parts of the position together which are coachable, he could be the best. So I guess I agree with The Playmaker. We’ll find out whether he fulfills his potential, but Dez’s potential is to be the best.

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by scottmaui on Feb 3, 2012 1:35 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Dangerous Weapon, not a Great WR.....yet

Dez is easily my favorite Cowboy and was my favorite college player of the past 5-6 years. I maintain the same line regarding him; he’s far more of a dangerous weapon than he is a great receiver at this point.

I can’t call a receiver who has registered just one 100-yard game in two seasons “great.”

Two forks in my eye > Watching an Aubrey Huff at-bat in '11

by Phillyboijr on Feb 3, 2012 1:39 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Fair assessment. Dez is definitely yet-unrealized potential.

I hope Romo works with Dez on the fade and jump ball a little this off-season. It’s actually pretty amazing that Dez put up those kind of numbers last year considering Dez and Romo have yet to truly click the way Romo has with T.O., Witten, and Austin; even Robinson. The Romo/Bryant duo will be unstoppable once they get their timing down. I know some will say Romo doesn’t trust him to be where the ball is expected to be but Romo and Owens put up some prodigious numbers and for all his skills, T.O. was definitely not known for his precise route running.

by revellyre on Feb 4, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

It's all going to come down to his route running / smarts

What seperated Michael, who didn’t have the physical tools Dez has, was that Troy could always trust him to be in the right place at the right time, that he would make the same read as Troy, run precise routes etc.

From what I have heard, that is the one big gap in Dez’s game, he is going need to sharpen up there so he can become Romo’s Mike. If he can do that it will be of massive value to Romo and the team – he doesn’t need to be “best in the NFL”.

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by BoyfromOz on Feb 3, 2012 1:46 AM CST reply actions  

As long as he becomes 1a to Witten on Clutch Plays

Then I don’t care what the stats say, I’ll roll with Dez.

He’s already more reliable than Miles in my opinion, now he needs to be as reliable as Witten in big moments.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 1:58 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I like Miles but even I admit he has some clankers for hands sometimes.

Miles doesn’t have anywhere near Dez’s physical gifts; but Austin is a technician, and Dez could learn a lot by emulating him, except when it comes to dating.

by revellyre on Feb 4, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez has to improve his route running significantly

before he is even considered a top 10 WR let alone the best. He definitely has the physical talent to be one of the best, I question whether he has the mental capacity for it.

Right now, both Austin and Robinson are better receivers for that very reason.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Feb 3, 2012 8:42 AM CST reply actions  

Dez has gotten better from year 1 to year 2

He should get even better in year 3

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 12:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I couldn't disagree more that a journeyman WR on his third team...

… is even CLOSE to as good a WR as Bryant. The day teams actually game plan to stop Robinson, bracket him with their best cover guy on his hip at each snap of the ball (since he knows he has help over the top), and Robinson still get 10+ TDs a year, maybe then your laughable statement will be closer to the truth (but don’t hold your breath because there is no possibility of it happening).

Here’s what I think is the problem: Romo simply isn’t a good enough QB to take advantage of Bryant’s gift. His noodle of an arm can’t get the ball down the field on deep routes and Romo’s too busy eyeballing Witten like a lovestruck school girl from the huddle, to the line, to the snap of the ball, and through the whistle, that he never sees how wide open Dez is.

No, I don’t believe a word of what I wrote about Romo. I love the guy and am very happy Dallas has him. I just wanted to frame my post like you did with Dez to hopefully make you think a little harder when accessing Dez’s relative talent level. Had you compared him to Austin, that would have made a lot more sense.

by revellyre on Feb 4, 2012 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I was so about to blow up.....

then I read the last part of your post….

nice

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 5, 2012 3:13 AM CST up reply actions  

One thing is for certain.....

Dez catches that ball in lights….. Bad throw bad lighting whatever he catches the ball.. It’s sad that tony has no trust in Dez! Is every ball megatron is thrown a perfect pass?? No!! Playmakers make plays.. Stafford is not as good as Romo the difference is he trust ALL his guys to make a play

by BL0217 on Feb 3, 2012 8:59 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Mistaken Bullsh!t

Dez’s done the excuse-making fingertip-wave in front of that silly-ass helmet windshield indicating “lost in the glare/reflection”. This past season, in fact. Review game tape.

And before anyone jumps, gets bent outta shape, review the games and know it ain’t Dez alone that has the “difficulty”. Frikkin’ stadiums, lighting, fancy helmet sunglasses, etc. What a loadacrap.

Football’s a game to be played outdoors. On grass. In sunlight. Period.

That's one small step...

by tanstaafl on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Mart B pulled that stunt during game @ Philly

He volleyballed Romo’s pass into an INT because he lostthe ball in the glare if his visor.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 6:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Hes almost there

The reason he didnt put up huge numbers is that coverage dictates where Romo throws. Dez faced a lot of double coverage especially when Miles was out and there were times they had 3 guys around him near the goal line. Romo didnt even look his way in those situations because there was no need to force the ball. By the way he was beating the double coverage especially in the later part of the season.

by JerrysWorld on Feb 3, 2012 9:32 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Rec!

Romo sees Dez doubled and Witten and Robinson facing single coverage. He had better throw it to the other guys. Teams gameplan to take certain players out of games, or at least contain them. Bryant has already forced teams to do this because they know its virtually impossible to cover him man-to-man. Remember what Dez was doing to Revis Island before he hurt his quad on the punt return? He was making Revis look silly on national TV. And the great thing is when teams bracket Dez, he has shown he’s no diva by not complaining, even though the media makes stupid comments about Dez disappearing in games and some fans are naive enough to buy it, and a handful even think Laurent Robinson is somehow a better player. Unlike T.O., who simply demanded the ball, regardless of coverage, which led to a slew of unnecessary Romo ints., Dez is unselfish and a consummate team player. Hopefully, Garrett designs more plays, other than stupid bubble screens, to get Bryant in better position to get away from all the doubles next season. Even putting him in motion every so often would be nice.

by revellyre on Feb 4, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Dez will be an absolute monster in 2012

2nd rounder in fantasy easily!

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by thebigham on Feb 3, 2012 11:30 AM CST reply actions  

As to BBI's list of top WRs I'd go something like:

Megatron
Wes Welker
Fitzgerald
Andre Johnson
Roddy White
Jordy Nelson
Vincent Jackson
Mike Wallace

After that it gets pretty damn messy. I think you can make arguments for one player of another very easily after that. I mean hell, after the top three it gets way too sketchy.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 12:40 PM CST reply actions  

No way the list is much much shorter.

We are talking who to have over Dez right? Ill even say I wouldn’t trade Dez or Austin for anyone but

Andre
Calvin
Fitz
Wallace is a tie.

"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo

by thebigham on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

No, the list of the best WRs in football.

Dez still needs to do some work to get to where he can be was and Austin needs to be healthy for a full season with Romo. He was pretty good in 2010 he just had Kitna for half the season. This year he was hurt, so I’ll give him a mulligan on that one.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I think listing Jordy Nelson over Greg Jennings

Is pretty preposterous.

But I agree with your main point of the rest of the rankings being a mess afterwards.

by Key19 on Feb 3, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Nelson's hands and moves are sick dude

He had a monster season this year, I’d easily rather have him than Jennings.

by Omar Little on Feb 3, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

You realize that Jennings is the primary target on that team. Nelson benefits from the other teams rolling coverages towards Jennings.

by starmesh23 on Feb 3, 2012 9:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The Problem with Dez Bryant

is that you not only have to worry about what is going on thru his head, but the heads of the closet people surrounding him during his Saturday excursions. Those people are telling him he is the Greatest thing since sliced bread. Michael Irvin’s comments only adds fuel to the fire. Bryant’s young and he is talented but naive and that can be a dangerous combination.

by kfell on Feb 3, 2012 3:58 PM CST reply actions  

How do you know what his friends are like?

I don’t understand what Dez does for people to hate him or constantly bash him. Why do people want him to be the human being? He’s a damn good receiver and he’s only going to get better.

by BrickTop on Feb 3, 2012 4:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

It should say “the perfect human being”

by BrickTop on Feb 3, 2012 5:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I swear Dez haters will only be satisfied if he does the following

To spend his days hitting the playbook, gym, and film room (reasonable).

AND

To spend his nights reading The King James Bible, singing in a church choir, going door to door spreading the word of God, get on his knees and “TEBOW”, and for the love of God dress like Steve Urkel when goes out in public

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 3, 2012 6:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Don't forget

He should only eat vegetables and healthy foods. Also, he shouldn’t have a life or have fun at all because he plays for the Cowboys. Lastly, he shouldn’t spend his money on whatever he wants because if you’re in debt, you’re obviously a bad person.

by BrickTop on Feb 3, 2012 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think you guys are being overly defensive here.

I’ve never seen anyone say he can’t have a life or have fun. And I’ve also never heard anyone call him a bad person because he’s in debt. I’ve heard plenty of people call him a stupid person for getting in massive debt for ego luxury items and then refuse to pay for said items until the Law gets involved. Frankly calling that kind of behavior idiotic is perfectly valid.

by Luke. on Feb 5, 2012 3:56 AM CST up reply actions  

It was a bit sarcastic

But my point is people make big deals out of little things Dez does. The things he eats and him going out.

by BrickTop on Feb 5, 2012 9:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Like making an issue of him defending his mother no matter, right or wrong?

I actually thought the man showed restraint by not decking the guy. He certainly deserved to be decked.

by Jace M on Feb 16, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

*Dez is on pace*

At his current rate and vastly improving, I believe that Dez has all the tools to be a top 5 WR in the nfl. I already believe he is in the top 10. Had not been for injuries he would have had an 1000 yard season. Once he really grasps this offense, he will be a beast because he’s already is a animal. He has size, quickness, speed, agility and very good hands, all you can ask for in a WR.

by JodieJoe26 on Feb 3, 2012 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

just to point out something about BBI's "List of better WR's"

I am going to strike out every one that drafted 3+ years prior to 2010, in other words any WR that was drafted 2007 or before gets a strike through….

Larry Fitzgerald
Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
Wes Welker
Brandon Marshall
Mike Wallace
Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe
Roddy White
Steve Smith (CAR)
Marques Colston
Jordy Nelson
Greg Jennings
Hakeem Nicks
Victor Cruz
Jeremy Maclin
Miles Austin

so of the 18 WR’s WR’s that BBI listed, 12 are 3+ years older than Dez Bryant’s 23 years.

just something to think about…..

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 4, 2012 2:55 AM CST reply actions  

good point. Also

Dez was second on the team with Receptions (to Witten) and 2nd in TDs (to Robinson)

What about that makes people think Romo doesn’t trust him?

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I STILL believe in Tony Romo.- 10/2/11

by Rat-Pack on Feb 4, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

yep

that gets a rec…..

nice point Rat-Pack

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST

by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 5, 2012 3:14 AM CST up reply actions  

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