For Those That Wanted Von Miller Last Year.....
I think that we have another shot at somebody that could very well be even better...Whitney Mercilus
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2012wmercilus.php
When you think of what he could do across from Demarcus Ware in our defense, doesn't it just make you salivate just a little? Only one year of starting in his junior year and is compared to Jason Pierre Paul of the Giants. His size is almost identical to Demarcus Ware, and if he performs as expected at the combine, he would be a major steal at 14 if still available.
His drafting would fill two needs at once: Providing an instant upgrade to our pass rush opposite Demarcus Ware, and allowing us time to groom Ware's replacement without having to hit the panic button at the last moment.
I know it seems a little early to be thinking about the heir apparent to Ware, but he hits 30 this year. At that age the amount of grey is his hair begins to outnumber the number of sacks that he gets every season. In 3-4 years time a viable fulltime replacement will have to either already be on the roster, or we will have to have a high draft pick slotted to attempt to find it. Wouldn't it so much easier if we had already filled that need way before it was an emergency? In 3-4 more years we will also need to be thinking about a QB. Not enough high draft picks to go around at so many important positions.
His drafting would also fill the hole that is left by Anthony Spencer's probable departure unless we can resign him to a very low ball amount. Even if Spencer is retained, we will still need to improve the pass rush and Mercilus enables Rob Ryan the chance to be flexible in how he lines up his players as Mercilus has lined up all over the front 7 in his time at Illinois. Inside, at DE, or standing up which would be his primary position in our defense.
What I like about him is not only his performance as a first year starter, but his potential to grow. His technique is still raw and still he performed more than capably against top competition. The highly thought of offensive lines of Wisconsin and Ohio State could not contain him from making plays. He led the nation in sacks, and showed a penchant for generating the turnover as well.
I'm aware of the need for multiple players of quality in this years draft. Rarely do players with the potential to be game changers come along. A player that has the ability to make everyone else around him better is even rarer. Whitney Mercilus has the potential to be one of these kinds of players. This pick would come without the worries of character that Janoris Jenkins would bring, enable us to draft a interior offensive lineman in the later rounds that could be just as capable as Decastro, and give us more explosive potential than Upshaw would have. He has the size that makes you confident that he can handle the rigors of the league, and a nonstop motor that will help set the tone for our defense. A highly skilled technician as a pass rusher who can hold his ground in the running game, he can only improve as he learns from one of the best to ever play the game.
Any pick comes with risk. His has only had the one breakout year and he is coming out as a junior. The production even tho he is raw is apparent however. Other players that have been touted to have potential and lobbied to be drafted at 14 have far less production or athleticism.
Of course our needs entering this draft will be tempered by what help we secure in free agency. Of all the positions that we can fill in FA, pass rushing help not named Mario Williams is not one of them.
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well honestly
lets wait until the Combine before proclaiming him Von Miller 2.0…
Miller had a combine similar to D-Ware’s…if Mercilus can get close to these numbers, then We can talk about him being in that class of Pass rusher.
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by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
I agree but its never too early to dream.....
a lot will turn on the numbers at the combine….just reading the early scouting reports about this guy and It makes me wonder how Ingram who wasn’t as productive, wasn’t as consistent, and who has never been a starter can be graded out higher than him. Just becuz he played in the SEC…….
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by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 4, 2012 4:11 AM CST up reply actions
Im big on him too
What I love about him is he has all the “moves” which is something a lot of rushers need to learn. IMO with ware coaching him up he’s the best guy. Plus Ware-wolf and Mercilus; the name-play would be fun.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 4, 2012 7:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
more years as a starter....Mercilus only had his junior year as a starter and put up some amazing numbers....
To be compared to JPP coming out who also only had the one year of breakout play is a good thing.
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by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 4, 2012 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
He seems to be
One of those guys nit picked to death by scouts and so down in the 20-40 range. I’ll say this: we all complain about a lack of playmakers on D. This guy had 16 sacks, 22 TFL and 9 FF in 13 games—that’s a playmaker, some guys have a knack for it.
by DB23 on Feb 4, 2012 8:57 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Miller and Mercilus are completely different players
I stopped reading after that
Sean Lissemore = The next Bruce Smith
In athleticism yes, but in what they could do for the defense they are quite similar....
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by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 4, 2012 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow for Mercilus to be Von Miller
but I like your line of thinking, dominant pass rusher opposite of Ware
I like Chandler Jones over Mercilus myself
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2012 10:02 AM CST reply actions
Waiting to see the combine numbers for Mercilus but Love Jones!
If Mercilus shows speed like Von Miller then he could be a great pick. But as Chia mentioned he’s not projected that fast.
For those of you don’t know this guy Chandler Jones has two big brothers – one already plays in the NFL. The other happens to be the most talented UFC fighter ever and only getting better.
I would love to get Jones but not sure where he’s going to get drafted. He’s being mentioned anywhere from third round to end of first. If we trade back this guy would be an excellent get – I think :)
I really want Chandler Jones
he has that Ware size and amazing talent that hasn’t been tapped yet
if we landed a CB in the first like Jenkins or Kirkpatrick and we took Jones in the 2nd, I would be thrilled
if we take DeCastro in the first or Ingram Upshaw or Perry, then that 2nd round pick has to be a CB
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe its untrappable. Do you want to take that risk in the 3rd which is where he likely goes? I don’t.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 5, 2012 10:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!!!!!!!!!
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
I personally dont see why you love jones so much
I think he has poor burst and takes a ton of plays off personally
by stegosaurus! on Feb 4, 2012 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I mean seriously
The dude had 10.5 sacks in three years is terrible in coverage. Is never around the qb. He can’t get off the line for crap and is slow. He also has no moves. His only real strength is against screens. I wouldn’t draft him before 6… and that is solely on his measurables.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 4, 2012 4:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Mercilus is slower
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 8:45 AM CST up reply actions
yeah this dude sucks, 6th round pick for sure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32F2P3zaaYw
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
oops wrong Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZA4cWhysrg&feature=player_embedded
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions
Yup
That is not a good video for defending him Chia. He lets up on EVERY play he is almost always dominated or nowhere near the ball even when they run right next to him. He is slow ans if he doesn’t get by his man he gives up. Two plays, a good player does not make. Sorry. You have some crazy obsession with him but I don’t want him anywhere near this team unless its a garbage pick. He’s got the measurables and all but I don’t think he even cares.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 5, 2012 10:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
well
you said he cant get off the line and was slow
in that video, he doesn’t look slow and is timing the snap
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
I was overly hating
But by slow I mean he just doesn’t give it 100% IMO. And I agree he times the snaps but I swear its like he hesitates. Idk I just don’t love his film lack of moves or stats. His family and measurables are crazy good. Ill say this, we typically agree a lot on pet cats and so forth and I know you know what’s up, so if we take him in the 3rd there’s things to be excited about and ill eat crow apps crow dinner and crow dessert if he balls.
by stegosaurus! on Feb 5, 2012 6:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lol all good bro
I think Jones has untapped potential and is one of those late bloomers that just opens it up in the NFL
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Or he could just fade into mediocrity and be another Spencer, or Spears.
by Aaron Burtram on Feb 23, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I have watched A LOT of Cuse basketball in my life
and this team might be one of the best
they are just so deep, its a really talented team
this team is better than the team that won it all, that team was good but it was really Melo being such a superstar and then the role guys stepped up like Hakim Warrick
if Fab Melo can actually pass a class, Cuse is going to make a deep run
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 4, 2012 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I'm aware that all this early draft talk is just gap filling before FA, the combine, and the draft....
I meant the Von Miller reference only as a comparison as far as a dominant pass rusher across from Ware..not in athleticism….Miller was in a class by himself in that regard…
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 4, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
good one... looks more like Aldon Smith to me though
not a great initial burst but has the ability to get to the QB and is quick to recognize the play and adapt. For me that’s a pretty big one since there are so many plays that require DE’s to adapt, screens and stuff.
I know corner is a priority but I’d like to see a DE and OLB drafted high as well. If Spencer goes then we really need 4 positions, add OG to the list.
Not fast enough to be Von-Bon
But he has long arms and an explosive first step. Ironically he does not have that great strength. He also does not have fluid hips, so he might not be great getting around off the edges in the pros.
I've seen two different scouting reports on him..
the one from Walter Football above and this one from CBS sports draft board. While some of the comparisons are similar they disagree about his hips and fluidity… Walter Takes note of his ability to sink his hips and move back inside while CBS does the exact opposite. CBS says he isn’t strong against the run, but Walter has the exact opposite opinion.
Maybe one site is Jusging him as a DE while the other is already placing him at 3-4 OLB.
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by TruBluToTheCore on Feb 4, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
NFP says the same thing
about Mercilus. http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=36130
This player could be had at a lower pick & almost the same talent: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_player_scouting_report.html&player=32491
by 99yard_TD_Run on Feb 5, 2012 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
First we better draft OL, then
Rob Ryan is preaching nothing but corners. We’ll see how it all plays out, but I think our only hope on the DL is through free agency.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
way better comparison
"With the 14th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.........The Dallas Cowboys select..............Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina"
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by Archie Barberio on Feb 5, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Lets see the sack seer scores
They are not everything to be sure but they are a good start
If he guy has a good sack seer score then you look at him again . If a guy you like has a bad sack seer score then you look at him to make sure to see if there is anything special about him,



























