Monday Morning Musings About The Dallas Cowboys And Stuff
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 6, 2012 8:52 AM CST
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PrintHere are some random thoughts and musings on this Monday morning.
- - Thank God the Super Bowl is behind us. I tried to avoid the coverage of this year's Super Bowl as much as I could but I still felt overwhelmed by all coverage that passed through my carefully constructed firewalls. But that's behind us. Now I just need to find a way to weather the onslaught of articles titled "What the Cowboys can learn from this year's Super Bowl".
Why doesn't anybody write an article about what the Cowboys could learn from, say, the Cardinals @ Eagles game in week ten, which the Cardinals won 21-17 and in which they scored not one but two fourth quarter TDs to win the game. Or any other NFL game for that matter.
- - What's up with Coach Joe D? Apparently the Raiders were denied permission to interview Dallas special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis about a possible assistant head coach position. Not really sure what to make of this. Do the Cowboys think that highly of him that they want to retain him? Did they want to protect him from a lateral move? Or are they trying to get back at Oakland for some kind of perceived sleight? The only thing I do know is on the few sideline shots during games this season, DeCamillis was far and away the guy I saw talking to Garrett most often. Is Joe DeCamillis the Jason Whisperer?
- - Have opinion, will publish. We're approaching the high point of draft season, that wonderful time of the year when hope springs eternal and everybody suddenly becomes an expert in player evaluation and selection. One of the joys of draft season is that everybody can have an opinion, and nowadays anyone can publish one. It's the time of year when any random internet dude knows more than our coaches and scouts. Combined.
- - Update your mock drafts with an extra fourth round pick: The NFL won't officially announce the compensatory picks for the 2012 draft until the league meeting in late March/early April, but it looks like the Cowboys could expect a fourth round pick. The number and value of compensatory picks is determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. More and more pundits are expecting the Cowboys to get an extra fourth rounder, which would likely be a pick in the 130s. We won't know for sure until the official announcement or until AdamJT13 publishes his projections (if he does them again this year) but until then, keep that extra pick in mind as you mock your way through this year's draft prospects.
- - Free Agency before the draft or vice versa? Although it wasn't designed that way, I actually liked the way the offseason was run last year, with the draft ahead of free agency. My thinking was that this would allow teams to draft entirely for BPA, because they could use free agency after the draft to fill their remaining needs. I always thought the other way around would kind of force your hand in the draft: If for example the Cowboys fail to sign a free agent corner this year, wouldn't they be under that much more pressure to draft a corner high in the draft, and wouldn't that be just the opposite of BPA? After all, you don't really want to sign a street free agent in August to play corner for you.
Well, looks like Jason Garrett thinks it's exactly the other way around and thinks free agency will reduce draft needs:
"In an ideal situation you want to address your needs prior to the draft. Hard to do that, but you're trying to do that so you can draft as purely as possible. Couldn't do that last year."
I think if the Cowboys wanted to address their needs prior to the draft, they'd need a lot more than the $20 million or so cap space they are reported to have. But I'll defer to the front office on this one.
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Congratulations, fan of 2011 Champs
bELIeve in Mr “cooler than the other side of the pillow” Manning.
Whadda line.
Looking forward to seeing your guys then. Bring your A-game. Hope we will.
That's one small step...
Sorry Terry,
Eli was a lot more than lucky. Set a record for 4th quarter combacks in ANY NFL regular season, then naturally did it again in the Superbowl. This year is the year when Eli finally deserves every accolade he gets (Except for when they start saying its even debateable that he’s as good as or better than his brother… ew).
Newman is Bad!
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Feb 6, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah yeah yeah
Though I can’t hate on Strahan, one of the few Giants I liked. Well at least the Beast gets another Rock and there’s still only two QBs with four rocks…I guess.
You're not guessing
As you well know, Omar. How sweet that they each owe as much to team as team does to them being mates.
And the rest of this ain’t aimed at you or anyone in particular.
26% of Super Bowls have been won by NFC East teams (and only 3 of them) with 41% having NFC East teams appearing in them.
Wanna win a Super Bowl? Odds are becoming Beast from the East is Step Number One.
Oh, but that would mean winning the division, now wouldn’t it? Like winning that season-ender vs the eventual 2011 Champs. And people call for losses?!
And yeah, I know all appearances haven’t been Division winners, but they’re my stats and I’ll skew’em and screw’em any which way but loose.
That's one small step...
I like the way Garrett is thinking
Use the draft to bring in good football players versus filling needs.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Feb 6, 2012 9:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions
As long as we bring in FA's to fill the needs first.
Then, go ahead and draft best available. But he has to address our needs somehow.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
yeah I'd trust Nicks over DeCastro anyday
Dallas has some knack for finding quality talent 6th round and later so I’d rather mold some guys behind proven vets versus thinking every high pick is going to turn out like Tyron
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
Use em and throw em away, see a pro a day is essential. If you want a piece of the rock, trick, go to Prudential
by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
yeah drafting low on the O line has worked so well
Doug Free is the only player we drafted below the 4th that is a quality starter. Who is the other? OUr First Rd pick.
How did those low rd and UDFA’s work out this year?
How have all those other 3rd rd and lower picks work out on the O line?
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 6, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
If you go back 20 years, Free is the only quality starter we drafted outside of Rd 2
I think the team has 7 solid players that are UDFA or came after the 3rd round. Some of those 7 are very, very good, and I think that makes people think we are better at finding gems than most teams, but I don’t think that we are.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
are you talking strictly oline?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, for the headline, yes.
Free is the only quality OL starter in the past 20 years that we drafted outside of Rd 2.
For the current team, we have 7 total guys that I consider solid that we drafted outside of Rd 3: Romo, Austin, Ratliff, Free, Scandrick, Brent, Lissemore.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
oh ok
I thought you were talking all positions for the last 20 years.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
Not super excited about retaining our ST Coach.
Obviously I don’t know the inner workings of the team, but I didn’t see anything that led me to believe that we had some kind of advantage in game management. I do remember him being involved in at least one fiasco. On top of that, our ST are not exactly great. In my opinion, we have unremarkable return teams, average coverage, and per my perhaps faulty memory, allow a couple of blocked kicks per year.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM CST reply actions
Jerry probably feels sorry for him after the practice facility collapse
that put him in a neck brace and made some kind of secret deal with him.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I think the new-found dislike for Coach D may be
overblown. We all admist that this team lacks talent in key defensive areas and lacks depth overall. But defensive players, especially those down the depth chart, make up most of the STs. I suspect that Coach D is much less of a problem than the guys given to him on STs.
Don't believe everything you think.
I agree.
It’s a difficult position to stand up for a guy that hasn’t produced. I think you’re right though. Especially since the consensus seems to be that this roster is pretty top heavy without much depth. The depth guys are on special teams.
You're taught how to block at every level.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
co-sign
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Joe D got 5 mil. No reason for a secret deal.
Bizness is bizness. Time to move on.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 6, 2012 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed. It is a terribly questionable decision by Garrett and Jones.
DeCamilis has been underwhelming to say the least and there was an opportunity to interview the Bears special teams coach that we didn’t use. Who would you rather have? The guy who has run one of the best ST units in the last few decades (and came up with the best PR idea I have ever seen against the Packers) or the guy whose units/decisions contributed directly to three losses against the Giants, Cardinals, and the Jets?
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
the sad thing is special teams is an old problem, is not just since decamillis
an even worse not many years ago there was an special teams draft
the special teams emphasis for us has to be...
A cover man. A diamond in the rough. A steve Tasker, Bill Bates, Kasim Osgood. Our coverage team needs to get better. We give up way too much on returns, imo.
Lilly, Hayes, Staubach, Waters, Dorsett, Bates, Novacek, Emmitt, Woodson, Ware, Witten, Lee. The Legacy lives on.
by wtshaolin on Feb 6, 2012 1:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Radway may be that guy.
A diamond in the rough.
We need a bonafide returner too.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 6, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
giants winning the sb has to be eating jerry inside. we'll find this offseason how much power jason has.
Don’t be surprised by any moves we make. This has got to be killing him.
by Perry the Platypus on Feb 6, 2012 9:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
trade for Eli??
ha ha ha ha….jk
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
For the gazillionth time...
We Don’t Need A Quarterback. Romo is far far far from the problem. Don’t you watch the games?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
which games??
Detroit, Jets, Cards….
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Look at his numbers for those games...
Detroit – 34/47 331yds. 3 TD’s
NY Jets – 23/36 342yds. 2 TD’s
Arizona – 28/42 299 yds. 1 TD.
You think Eli would do better? I think not. Those are great numbers for a QB. The problems lie elsewhere.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
mikey - sell it somewhere else...the numbers can say whatever you want them to say
its called reverse engineering.
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Sell it somewhere else?
Are you an idiot or what? 90% of the fans on this site are 100% in Romo’s corner. I just want you to tell me how Eli is better than Romo. No freakin way!
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
This looks about right.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
dude - when you have the answer you want - and then work backwards to find data to back it up
its called reverse engineering….and its usually wrong
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
It's called proof.
You asked about particular games and I gave you the proof. You said trade for Eli. I’m saying that it wouldn’t make any difference. There are problems in other areas. I really wish that because our DB’s, OL, DL, & LB’s were so great that our QB was our weak point. But that is definitely not the case.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Well, I hate to get in the middle of this.
Not really, I love it.
You conveniently left out turnover numbers in those games in your “proof.” And if your question was can Eli put up similar numbers in a game, look no further than what he did to us.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
Our defense is not NY's, Det's, or AZ's.
Anyone can put up big numbers against us.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
So you too?
On the Eli bandwagon? So sad.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
No he's saying that they're two comprable QBs
Despite the hype they’re actually about as good as each other.
What is the Eli bandwagon?
I think he’s a very good QB.
Is he better than Romo? I don’t know. I think they are on the same level, but Eli seems to have something that Romo doesn’t right now. It might be confidence, it might be decision making, it might be nothing. When Brady shook off that sack and threw a pick, in the middle of the play, I told my buddy that he looked like Romo. And that’s the difference right now between Romo and Eli for me. If that’s Eli on the same play, I expect it to be a completion; if that’s Romo, I am saying “No, Tony!” before he even throws deep, and then I expect the same result that Brady got.
Eli is a talented, successful QB. Romo is a talented, at this time less successful QB. Denying Eli’s talent in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary just seem like being a sore loser to me.
People can cite Dilfer all they want, but Dilfer wasn’t a one time Super Bowl MVP, much less two.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
It might be JPP, Tuck, Osi . . .
Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
Jason Garrett - Lord of Order
Rob Ryan - Lord of Chaos
That was a great game winning drive by them.
Also, the DL’s throw to Manningham was amazing.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
LOL...
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
He is answering your question about Eli having something that Romo doesn't right now.
It is called a defense. Did the defense throw that pass? No. But what they did do was hold NE to 17 points. Without that, then that pass would have only led to a garbage time TD with NY still losing.
In the 17 seasons from 1966-1982, the Cowboys went at least to the conference championship game 14 times. In the 16 seasons from 1996-2011, the Cowboys have won 2 wild card games.
And I clearly was talking about something that the player himself has
I wish that we had such a great D could hold the Patriots to 17 points, cuz we gave up a whopping 20 to them.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
it might be a healthy organization and not one with
and idiot as the principal decision maker
and yeah as tom says a good DL
Let's keep in mind
That Eli had a career year. His stats this year were head and shoulders above his career averages for the most part. Romo’s stats have been pretty consistent.
by Hatchetman337 on Feb 6, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Eli is more successful because he has a better defense
Watch the game over again, Eli threw both good and bad passes, he clearly wasn’t playing at the level that Brees and Rodgers were the last two SBs.
In Romo we Trust
Eli vs NYJ-
9/27, 225yds, 1 TD
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
And a win.
What’s your point, though?
You said he couldn’t put up similar numbers against similar defenses, and clearly he did. He also lit it up in the playoffs. And against us and other teams. He had a great season. He’s a 2 time Super Bowl MVP. All the evidence shows he’s great, and saying he sucks because Romo has slightly better numbers is why people mock Cowboys fans.
It IS actually possible for more than one QB at a time to be good.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
but Romo had a better season
Eli just plays on a team that has a better defense, thats the difference.
In Romo we Trust
and a much luckier team too
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Eli Sucks.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
It wasn't hard to figure out
What’s your point, though?
Eli doesn’t fart butterflies and poop kittens. Romo plays a game like that and the Cowboys win and all the haters will be saying how the Cowboys won despite Romo.
“All the evidence shows he’s great”
All the evidence??? You do know the meaning “all” is? You do realize that the Giants were 9-7 this year? You do realize that Eli lost 7 games this year? You do realize that Eli lost to the Redskins TWICE this year?
You do realize that Eli’s TD-INT ratio (during his supposedly “greatest” season) is pedestrian, at best? I can go on and on and on about “all” the evidence.
saying he sucks because Romo has slightly better numbers is why people mock Cowboys fans
There is a difference between saying that I (or any other Cowboy fan) would rather have Romo than Eli is not saying that Eli sucks.
In the end, Eli is a very good QB that has had the benefit of very good fortune. I’ll take Tom Brady to lead my team (any day) to lead my team in a last drive over Eli. I’ll say the same thing about the other Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Rivers, Romo, and Roethlisberger.
You can do whatever you want in your imaginary scenario
In the real world, Eli set records for 4th quarter TDs and come from behind victories this season. Romo and Brady had their shot to lead their teams to last minute drives over his team, and he came through and they didn’t.
If you had followed this conversation, you would see that the person I was replying to does indeed say that Eli sucks, not just that he prefers Romo.
You do realize that Eli was 9:1 TD-INT in the playoffs and was Super Bowl MVP for the second time in 4 years? But please, go on and on.
I don’t know how you are so certain of what goes on with Eli’s anal cavity, but let’s keep this about football, if you don’t mind.
The ironic thing is that you think you are arguing against me, when you are actually saying basically the same thing that I am: Romo and Eli are both very good.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
Actually Romo did come through
but obviously he had no control over Piere-Paul blocking Bailey’s FG….neither Romo or Eli play defense or ST so they can’t take credit or blame for their team’s accomplishments
In Romo we Trust
He didn't come through.
It’s always “well if,” “but if,” and “if only” with you. Yes, if things had been different, then things would have been different. However, they were not different. The Cowboys did not win that game. And then Eli and the Giants stomped us a few weeks later for good measure.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 7, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
except you forgot to post the number on ints in each game
by the way i like romo and i think he’s better than eli but yeahmclovin is right your logic is twisted
Interceptions are a misleading stat.
At least half of Romo’s int’s were not his fault. The stats we are throwing around on here are just to show that Romo is not as bad a QB as McLovin9 makes him out to be.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
That's your opinion.
The receivers will tell you otherwise.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Bingo
Are you an idiot or what?
I have a hint. It’s not the “or what”….
This is his schtick.
Don't believe everything you think.
The guys gotten under my skin.
I have defended Romo and the Cowboys until I’m red in the face against some of these people.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
well - you can stroke Romo all you want....
you’re entitled to cheer for your guys…
but to say he’s better than Eli at this point is lunacy….
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
ha ha ha - you guys are so funny....
both of you believe that Romo is better than Eli, and the Cowboys are better than the Giants….
so – what gives??
its just dumf@ck-luck that Giants have won 2 SB in last 5 years???
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
don’t even try. these guys are HOMERS.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 6, 2012 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
NOT a hater.
How bout a touch of realism with your kool-aid every once in a while Terry?
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 6, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
no, Giants are better, but not by much
They have a better defense which is why they have those SBs, it’s not because Eli is so great.
In Romo we Trust
Sorry, Eli has played GREAT...
Not good but GREAT in the Giants superbowl runs.
Newman is Bad!
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Feb 6, 2012 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Romo > Eli
But right now, Cowboys < Giants unfortunately. Isn’t that the point that everyone has been trying to make on the blogs and talking about the draft/FA?
by Hatchetman337 on Feb 6, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly. Romo is not the problem.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Well wouldnt be dumb luck but
Eli has made his mark this year no doubt about it. But there is a reason why Eli has managed his 4th quarter comebacks and a reason why he won a Superbowl this year. Eli did an outstanding job in the post season but his defense did an even better job. Can’t make a 4th quarter comeback if your defense gives it up to the other team in the last mins of the game. Did you see how there defense stood strong and played the last 52 sec of the game. They got us beat hands down on there defensive front. But saying Eli is better than Romo is crazy. Not even close to being the same system they run. Eli has so many timed placement throws and not alot of read routes. Infact I’ve seen more qb mistakes OK wr hot routes with Eli than all of romos mistakes together. Romos talent makes him the best option for this offense. No way Eli comes into Dallas and has a winning season wouldn’t happen. He’d die behind our line and that’s just plain truth.
by Sado44 on Feb 6, 2012 3:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
terry man i obviously think romo is better than eli
maybe a toss up for his 2 rings, but if there’s someone who can’t handle the truth is you, saying the giants won ouf of luck as you implied comments before is foolish as some other stuff you have said, i know you think that’s being a real fan, but we need to be critic as well, that’s the only way to get better, this team is stuck up because his owner and GM is not aoutocritic enough to make radical changes in order to get better
Anyone who watched the game can plainly see the Giants were lucky
Key penalties by the Pats on key third downs when the Pats had a key stop, fumbles that bounced the Giants way all night long and key drops by the Pats receivers….just stating it how I saw it
In Romo we Trust
Yes it is.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Ahhhh...turn that frown upside down little buddy.
It will all be better next year.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Thanks man!
I LOVE my Dallas Cowboys. I live them 24/7/365 and nobody is better. They are my life man.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
by Mikellie on Feb 6, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
2 ring and 7 road playoff wins!
by jtgreet02 on Feb 6, 2012 10:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
With the help of his defense.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
true...
but give the man his due. He’s no superstar, but he’s absolutely a star right now.
Newman is Bad!
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Feb 6, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
ha ha ha
hey Terry – are we still better than the Giants??
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Yes we are.
Best team doesn’t always win. Any given Sunday.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
keep thinking that buddy
Giants were the better team yesterday and when they played them during the season. They also went into GB and SF and took care of business..give them some credit..
I've given them more credit than most of the people here.
I picked them to win the Super Bowl in KD’s picks contest. And if you don’t think we have better overall talent than the Giants, then you are sadly deluded….buddy.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Everyone? Who's everyone?
If talent doesn’t mean anything then why go after any free agents? Maybe we should trade our first 3 picks in the draft for 5th round picks. The Giants are not a better team. They just came together and played harder at the right time. Cowboys still have more potential to be better over the long haul with a few more pieces.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
why do we need a few more pieces if we're already better????
dude – listen to yourself
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
We are better.
I’m thinking we need to worry about every other team in the league, not just the Giants.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
@mikellie ....dude you serious?
If SBs were based on talent we would have 10 right now…give me ball players with less talent then talented guys with that cant play….a team full of talented players means jack sh*t.
Every team has talent.
Some are coached and taught better than others. Leave it at that.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
what about to worry about the dallas cowboys instead?
start recognizing this team needs to do a lot to be a contender
More sour grapes. You guys are hilarious
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Breaks
Dropped passes by Pats, missed fumble recoveries
Those doomed the Pats, and once again the luck of the Giants prevailed.
Welkers non catch is being compared to Miles Austin. One catch either way and the Giants are in real trouble regarding winning those games and their place in history
more talented how?
Eli > Romo
Giants WR > Dallas WR
Dallas OL > Giants OL
Dallas TE > Giants TE
Giants RB = Dallas RB
Giants DL > Dallas DL
Dallas LB > Giants LB
Giants DB > Dallas DB
Giants HC > Dallas HC
Jacobs to Eli: You're a beast, man. I can't say that enough!
Its pointless bro
you should be enjoying your Super Victory. Not messing with us low life band wagon Cowboy fans. Its straight misery over here.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
hahahaha.
For real. Go be happy somewhere, dude.
Band Wagon...pretty funny stuff.
I think I’m starting to get the hang of this sarcasm stuff.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Good job Mike.
I have to becareful because I don’t know how to use that sarcasm font stuff.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Giants OL > Dallas OL along with Giants DL > Dallas DL makes all the difference
by somebodyquiet on Feb 6, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
WE DON'T HAVE BETTER OVERALL TALENT!
Newman is Bad!
by Feeling Blue & Silver on Feb 6, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Hey Hey come down now.
Take a deep breath….there, now doesn’t that feel better?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Compare the Giants talent on D to the Dallas d.
Compare the offenses. Go player by player on both units. Gmen by a landslide. Our d line is not close to theirs. Our secondary ….uh let’s not even go there. Their o line is better than the Dallas o line. Wr’s are close though I would give a slight edge to the Gmen. Cruz adds a dimension that Dallas doesn’t have.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 6, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Make sure you use protection.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
and took care of business against the Cowbouys twice when they needed to
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Wow.
I’m sorry, but that’s just craziness. They beat us twice this year and won the SB. They beat some great teams in the playoffs, including both #1 seeds, and won most of them on the road.
This year, they were better than us.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
The Giants played with a sense of urgency when they had to. The Cowboys played like crap when they had to play well.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
2 time winning QB and MVP yeah he does..ahha!
Give the guy some credit, he made some great throws that game like he has done all year…
I will say this they had some luck yesterday because if Brady was Brady and Gronk was healthy I dont think the Giants win that game.
Or Welker makes catch he could make in his sleep
The Giants are a good, solid team. Nothing dynastic about them, but in today’s NFL good solid teams will win a lot of games.
Don't believe everything you think.
yeah, a 9-7 team won the SB...thats all you need to know about parity in the NFL
Last season I thought there was a lot separating us from the Pack, however, there isn’t that much separating us from the GMen. Austin doesn’t lose that ball in the lights, they don’t even make the playoffs.
In Romo we Trust
But he did.
It’s always about what might have happened when we talk about being as good as them, but those things don’t happen.
They beat us once, whupped us the second time, then beat some very good teams in the playoffs. Not giving them credit just seems very small to me.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
they didnt have an easy road
getting to the SB no questions about it. They definately earned this one.
Of course they earned it
In the age of parity, luck will always play a role in wins. If not for Evans dropping a great pass, the Pats aren’t even playing yesterday. It’s fine.
Don't believe everything you think.
You mean if ROmo does not overthrow his injured wide receiver
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
ohhhhhh noooooooo......
Romo shalt not overthrow ANY wr…….
it was Austin’s fault all the way….ha ha ha ha ha
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
really, it was, seriously
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Wait what? Injury is an excuse? Then I assume you excuse
Romo’s troubles in the Detroit game. You know, the game two weeks after the broken rib?
ut oh
trying to include logic is futile :-)
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
Hey, if Austin was out there, he should have made the
play. Or if we’re going to excuse one player, we need to excuse them all.
My point is that Fellaterry has to pin the blame on Austin. Romo is never at fault, ever
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Eli does not suck.
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Yes he does.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Nah.
If he sucks, how do you describe someone like Grossman or anyone else that actually sucks. It’s okay if you think Romo is better. He doesn’t suck, though.
Yes he does.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I'm with you. The worst happened, and now it's over. It's like pulling off
a bandaid. Yesterday, I said I was happy to see the end of football season, but now, I’m starting to feel excited for free agency and the draft.
Dunno what the deal is on Coach D. I’m a little surprised the Cowboys stopped him from interviewing.
We all start over again.
Let’s get this thing going.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
?
I thought a team can’t deny any asst coach a chance of interviewing for a HC position?? Maybe this was for another position other than HC than that would make sense.
it was an assistant position
you can block lateral moves….
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
He's better than Brady too.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Yep, Romo is still better
but I think Eli is way more lucky…better to be lucky than good I guess
In Romo we Trust
wow - Eli really is a lucky guy
7 consecutive road playoff wins, 2 SB trophies, 2 SB MVPs…
9/1 TD:INT in these playoffs
lucky lucky lucky
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Sure is.
Probably has a horseshoe up his ass. You sure do have a man crush on him.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Do you and Terry take tunrs fellating Romo, or do you just double team him?
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
OMG - too funny
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
+1
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Why do you want argue about it.
The fact is the Giants and Eli won another SB, while the Cowboys and their fans watched. It is what it is.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
by DIRE WOLF on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want to argue about it.
What gets me going is when someone says that Eli is better than Romo. He may have his MVP’s and Super Bowls, but I don’t think he is a better QB. He just plays on a team with a good defensive line and has a little more luck than most QB’s. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl but he is in the HOF. Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl but that sure as hell doesn’t make him better than Romo.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
It's Mclovin9 man, you're paying the trolls toll.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
He doesn't need you to pay it, Terry always pays it for him.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
well its comforting to know that were something ever to happen to Terry...
that Mikey could step right in and take over….
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
I seem to be pretty good at that.
You warned me about this one other time. I need to learn who the trolls are and who the fans are. Is there a class for that?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
finish your GED and get back to me....
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Git Er Done?
I pictured you as a nerd, not a redneck. Guess I was wrong.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
McLovin9 is just ...
a closet Giants fan who is in love with Eli.
Once you realize that you can put him in the class of troll who trolls other team’s messge boards.
Hey now, as a redneck I resent being compared to him.
by Rena on Feb 6, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 7, 2012 3:13 AM CST up reply actions
I'd trade the better QB for the Lombardi Trophies every damn day
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
As much as I root for Romo and our Cowboys, here's what I admire about Eli
21 fourth quarter comebacks, 25 game-winning drives
All the hatin I could ever spew out for the G-Men and Peyton’s little brother just cannot change that fact.
It’s called being “clutch.”
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
there is so such thing as clutch
but…
Romo has 13 fourth quarter comebacks, 14 game-winning drives with 42ish less games.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
No such thing as clutch, eh?
Yeah, you go on believing that.
Ever heard of Michael Jordan… or Joe Montana?
Denial is a turrble thang.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Jordan was a pump that missed 70% of his shots.
Montana had the privilege of playing with the greatest receiver of all time and a great offensive line. These are bad comparisons.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
What?!?!
Bad comparisons?
What a joke.
The viewing public witnessed that those two were money when the game was on the line.
I guess your opinion is above the national sportswriters and the Hall of Fame voters.
Lmao.
Btw, regarding your comment on Joe Montana. You’re kidding, right?
He didn’t have Jerry Rice til ’85. Montana was a Niner for SIX seasons before SF drafted Rice. Wow.
Fast forward to QBs of today…
Love him or not, Eli Manning has improved since his rookie season. With an 8-1 playoff record on the road, two Super Bowl titles, two Super Bowl MVP awards, 21 fourth quarter comebacks, and 25 game-winning drives… I don’t care who you root for. Facts are facts.
Look, I have an authentic Romo jersey. I love him better than Eli. But I’m also a realist and I pay mad respect to those who have earned it.
Sheesh.
"Spectacular achievements are always preceded by unspectacular preparation." -Roger Staubach
So mclovin question for you please
Just how much money is Eli giving you for child support. You know usually there is some negative feelings there but I’m assuming after Eli knocked you up y’all settled for a good amount since your still just head over heals for the guy. Maybe just maybe you could threaten to tell his wife about y’all and he might still give you alittle. Just a thought man.
by Sado44 on Feb 6, 2012 3:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I came away from that sb thinking
gee you don’t have to be the better team to win it all or even make it there. you just have to be the luckier team. I mean what’re the odds of branch welker and Hernandez all dropping clutch passes or the gronk getting hurt before the game? and all those fumbles they recovered? I mean come on! and am I the only one who feels the ravens and49ers both should’ve been there instead and both just got out lucked? I felt dirty after that game. it diminished what it means to win a sb to me. better to be lucky then good I guess.
by kitten mittens on Feb 6, 2012 9:24 AM CST via Android app reply actions
kinda makes that 1 playoff win in 15 years even more depressing - doesn't it?
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Isn't that just how it looks right now?
Things change quickly. We can win next year.
still have the Eagles and Giants in the division right...
were going to be battling for 3rd in the division for awhile
We we’re batting for the division crown in the last game of the season. We haven’t gotten worse since then. We can win next year. Just need a few things to fall into place, like any other team would.
Exactly. So much negativism from a couple of people here.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Zolak said the Boys were the biggest and fastest team NE played this year.
He blamed Jerry for the mediocrity.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Fastest?
Brady James, Newman, Brooking… big and fast? Really?
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
No offense, but it's actually called reality
Reality: We have a Top 10 quarterback
Reality: We had no pass rush nor corners to effectively defend the Giants O
Reality: We have hope at the RB position with what rookie DeMarco Murray accomplished in his first season in the NFL
Reality: Our O-line had problems with Philly’s defensive pressure in both losses in 2011.
Reality: We have one of the Top offenses in the NFL.
Reality: Our defense needs lots and lots of help and if it doesn’t improve from a player personnel standpoint — this offseason — we will get swept by both Philly and NYG again in 2012.
I always root for us to win every game — all the way til the clock hits 0:00 and the game is over.
I also call it like I see it, and I honestly don’t consider that negative.
But then again, that’s just me.
"Spectacular achievements are always preceded by unspectacular preparation." -Roger Staubach
Have to be better than 8-8 or 9-7 in this division no matter how you slice it
and thats where this team probably ends up next year. Giants and Eagles aren’t going anywhere and they have our number right now..
Guess we have to change our number then.
Why are you so negative on all your comments about the current state of the Cowboys? All we need is a full offseason of FA signings, draft, and OTA’s. Give it a chance. This will the first one in the Garrett era.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
How the heck do I know? I don't have a crystal ball.
I’m saying give Jason Garrett a chance to have a full offseason and see what he can do. We know what Andy Reid and Tom Coughlin can do, but we haven’t seen Jason get that chance yet. I do think that we will win the division if we can stay reasonably healthy and fix the OL though.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Sure. Why not?
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I bet you would have said that..
at the beginning of this year, too. Sometimes, you don’t have to be better than 9-7.
Well apparently 9-7 handles it in this division
And no reason with the right moves Dallas can’t hit 10-6 easily and with alittle luck maybe 2 more wins. Don’t be so down on an 8-8 season went from 6-10 and nothing but a decent draft to improve us. Free agents this year and another good draft we can look at the reality of it and say 10 wins is very do able
by Sado44 on Feb 6, 2012 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't agree with this.
The better team won, and that was the second time this year that they beat them. The Ravens and the 49ers got beat. The Patriots got beat. The Giants went through us twice, #1 and #2 NFC seed, and the #1 AFC seed. I hate them, but I give them their earned respect. Good teams tend to be “lucky” more often.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
+1
The Pats’ receivers dropped the balls. That isn’t luck for the Giants. They surely benefitted from it, but you could just as easily attribute that to the Patriots guys not being good enough when they needed to be. If they weren’t good enough, then the Giants were better. That’s as far as you need to go.
that's my point..
I mean welker usually has glue on his hands and he drops that wide open pass. then branch dropped that huge pass. he’d still be running if he catches that. abnormal things that they really have no control over seem to happen when it comes to the giants is all I’m saying. fumble recovery negated by12 men on the field in the red zone..
by kitten mittens on Feb 6, 2012 9:44 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm not mad at you.
I just think it’s in bad taste to call it luck. You have to make the play, the Pats’ didn’t.
they're better then us right now
and most other teams that I don’t deny. but to say they’re the absolute best in the league? I don’t believe that. it just seems like the stars lined for them and everything happened just right. but hey the won it so congratulations to them.. I was hoping for a tie though
by kitten mittens on Feb 6, 2012 9:38 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
No, this is all wrong, Eli is just a lucky bus driver, Jerry is a Great GM, the Giants suck and these Super Bowls don't count because LUCK was involved,
the Cowboys are the most talented team to only win one playoff game since the end of the Clinton Administration.
Didn’t you get the memo?
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Rather be lucky than good?
Agree with you that both the Ravens and 49ers should have been in the SB. At the very top level when teams are evenly matched you always need a bit of luck and to take your chances As good as the Giants have been the last few weeks they’ve defo been the luckiest team also.
Ever get the feeling that as good as Romo can be that he isn’t a lucky player?
+9
not a lucky player at all, lol
but having a def that can hold an opp to 17 points in a big game would help too
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
The Weather is here, I wish you were beautiful"
Indecision, may or may not be my problem
I would amend that
remove the Raven and put in Houston
the team that made the playoff with a 5th round rookie QB starter, plus missing their two biggest playmakers in Andre Johnson and Mario Williams on the sidelines for most of the season….
had Houston had those 3 players…. Giants get their butts handed to them……
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 7, 2012 3:19 AM CST up reply actions
Plus 1 million
somewhere the football gods have it in for the Giants
SB taught a few things, but 2 stood out
First, Giants got lucky bounces all along their run to the sb, starting with playing us. Proper management could have ended their season a number of different times. But oh well, they still won.
Good line play makes the qb. During the season, Tony Romo was a better qb than Eli in most statistical categories, and he had a mostly horrible line to play behind. Imagine what TR could do with protection. If we could take NY’s lines (offensive and defensive) we’re the SB champs now. Good d-line play covers for a lot of weaknesses in the secondary.
Giants OL isnt that good
They are slightly above average. We saw that yesterday and over the last several weeks. Defense and more defense wins..get some freaking pass rushers on this team period!
Eli wasn’t running around for his life yesterday. he had a nice pocket on most plays.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Pats D is poor
and they have virtually no Pass rush. Giants O line is not great but good (certainly better then ours)
by burmafrd1944 on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
I think 2 solid free agents could really turn the team around.
If you get a quality interior lineman, preferably center for around 5-7 mil, a quality CB for around 5-7 mil, use some dough to retain Spencer and Elam, and then have a solid draft that includes another quality interior lineman, another quality CB, and then solid ILB, DL, and S, you have basically shored up every weakness of the team. By quality, I mean guys that are at least better than average NFL starters, and by solid, I mean guys that are decent back ups with potential to develop into starters.
DL – not that bad, could use a pass rush specialist in the rotation
LBs – Carter upgrades ILB just by being younger and more athletic, but some depth is needed, maybe a coverage guy for the current TEs
CB – need at least one starting level CB, giving us Jenkins, Scandrick, mystery CB, and either retain Ball or a younger, cheaper, similar quality player
S – Sensabaugh is decent, Elam is serviceable, need to develop an intelligent, athletic player here
OL – Need at least 1 interior player, and hopefully someone in our current crop can step up. If nothing else, the current guys are decent back ups.
TE – Unlikely that Bennett can be retained for a reasonable price, so we might need a solid guy here. The more I think about it, I wouldn’t be surprised if we took a TE in the first 3 rounds.
WRs – Feel good about this unit, with or without Robinson
QBs – Find a veteran, bus driver type back up
RBs – either retain Fiammetta, or find a road grader, and perhaps add a pile mover tailback
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 AM CST reply actions
How about some veteran depth at ILB that can actually cover
Kevin Burnett anyone?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Is he available?
And how much would he cost? I thought he was the starter in SD, so I don’t know that he could be brought in for backup money. It would be nice to have a coverage ILB, though.
by Baked Potato Soup on Feb 6, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he is a free agent
I’m sure if he can get a starting gig somewhere then he will go there. I’m just thinking he’s getting up there in years, so why not come back here and have a roll with team you started with.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
he signed a 4-year deal ($20 mill) in Miami before last season
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
ah, thats right
Well there goes that thought.
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
What about our special teams gives Coach Joe job security?
Unless below average is the standard of this team now…
I will awaken my expectations for the Cowboys when Jerry Jones is in the ground.
by Lord Humungus on Feb 6, 2012 9:49 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Eli and Coughlin punched their ticket to the HoF.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Isn't that special.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
The Giants have another SB Trophy, but, but, but, we got the 14th pick.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
I know. Remember when there were people hoping that we would lose
so we could get a higher draft pick? Hope they’re happy now….morons.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Yep, they said the Giants and the Boys had no chance.
It proves once again you have to get in to win.
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
The Giants had a chance...
the Cowboys never did.
"[Sean] Lee has more value now...than our entire 2010 draft"--- An Eagles' fan.
I disagree
the Giants beat the Falcons and the 49er’s
Considering that we beat the 9er’s already, and the Falcons scored 2 points(giving up 34)
I would say we would have had a great chance…..
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 7, 2012 3:24 AM CST up reply actions
wait so is Jerry keeping Joe D because of the practice facility incident?
He underwhelmed the last couple of years but I guess the talent on the ST untis has not been there.
I guess I would give him one more shot with some actual gunners and tacklers not slow undisciplined dolts that commit penalties on every other punt or return
The realist keepin it real amongst the surrealists
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by starbury_to_s-jaxci2000 on Feb 6, 2012 10:31 AM CST reply actions
Congrats to Giants
The better team won last night. Gotta give due when due is earned. As for the luck thing, we need to reach an understanding. If you want to say winning (especially a Super Bowl) has nothing to do with luck, fine. If you want to say that when the Giants recovered multiple fumbles because they made a play, fine. If you want to say the Patriots dropped passes because they didn’t make a play, fine. But if you say that, then never again… never for the rest of your lives… never until the day the world ends, can you say Larry Brown was lucky in Super Bowl XXX!
He was/ we were
One of the rare occasions things broke our way in a big game ( minus the Rodger the Dodger Era)
52-13 does require some luck.
Buffalo got lucky twice that game or it would have been 59-6. Reich was over the line of scrimmage on his TD pass and Leon Lett is a slow ass that should have scored. So, yeah, there is some luck in the Super Bowl.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
This is funny
“….and nowadays anyone can publish one. It’s the time of year when any random internet dude knows more than our coaches and scouts. Combined.”
It might be too late
but can we please not make today about Eli vs Romo? The facts are that they are both outstanding qb’s. Giants won the SB because they had a complete team.
Cant we all just get along?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
DAMN YOU DIRE WOLF!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shaking fist towards the sky
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
this is way more fun Paul - admit it
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
I have to admit
that I do enjoy you and Terry having your daily lovers quarel
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
and a hell of a lot better than more draft talk
The only prefect science is hindsight............Lock n Load
Each day on BTB is kind of like a soap opera
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Wait till 12:30 ET, then things could get a bit unruly here when the freshly baked Super Bowl winners realize that Vegas doesn’t even like them to win the division next year.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 6, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Get your popcorn ready
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
oh wow!!!
Popcorn is ready! I’m guessing they have the nasty ass eagles winning it?
We're here to win football games. The way to do that is to tell him and to get on him at the right times. I do that when you guys (media) don't see and watch.''
What else makes a strong leader?
"You win,'' Romo said. "You're a very good leader once you win.
"That's' what we're going to do.''
by TARHEEL PAUL on Feb 6, 2012 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Dear Terry & McLovin...
I apologize for trying to get in the middle of your daily lovers quarrels. I will try to stay out of it in the future.
Mike
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
That cart left the barn hours ago
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
I'm with you Paul
This may be the stupidest debate on BTB. Dallas has a mediocre defensive front 7, a crap secondary, problems on O-line, a punter with drop foot, and guys want to argue about Romo. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Don't believe everything you think.
Only arguing I do about Romo is when someone tries to
compare him to other inferior QB’s.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
I'm not on your case Mikellie
I am really talking about the knuckleheads who crawl out of the woodwork anytime there’s a chance throw Romo under the bus. I expected a spirited debate about Coach D and somehow the anti-Romo crazies came out. Stupid.
Don't believe everything you think.
I know. McLovin9 got under my skin and it all blew up.
Sorry about that.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Too late. Better yet, I have to keep reading it in the media as well as if somehow
it’s a zero sum game and if Eli improves his game or wins, that somehow diminishes Romo.
a more complete team maybe
I really don’t think the Giants O-Line or secondary are that great. Manning and the pass rush covered up those spots pretty well.
Look at what happened after Umenyiora went out post-turkey day when they could no longer create the same kind of pressure on the opposing QB. Brees, Rodgers, and Romo all torched them, and they lost by two scores to the Washington Redskins. All the while the run game was so poor Manning was chucking it up 40+ times a game, which allowed him to establish his one and only statistical advantage over Romo(enough to secure a Pro Bowl appearance, apparently), that being pass yards.
Not trying to nitpick, but I think saying the Giants are a complete team is a stretch. Not to say that they aren’t a good team, or that they didn’t show exceptional resolve.
If you look at Sturm's article
from the start of December on, the Giants’ o-line significantly improved while Dallas’ did the opposite. Which is fine. The Giants’ are to be credited for investing better than Dallas.
Don't believe everything you think.
injuries played a part in that I'd imagine
That I think was the biggest thing. New York had there injuries in the midpart of the season and got healthy at the end for the stretch run. Dallas were at their healthiest in the middle and then fell apart at the end.
I think you're right plus
I think it took them a while to grasp Fewell’s concepts, which clearly they did by season’s end.
Don't believe everything you think.
Off season starts NOW
The boys will probably not resign Spencer and will try to get Robinson.
So that probably means that Butler steps up to the OLB slot. Guess it is time to see if he can do it.
Now as regards Elam, I would not be surprised to see him back as well.
After that who knows. I hope we get Nicks or Grubbs in FA. Then a CB. Those are the minimal needs in FA.
A. Ross looks like somebody we could use.
He’s probably be fairly inexpensive as well.
I thought Victor was due for a breakout year last season. But he didn’t get much playing time. So we STILL don’t know what THE BUTLER is all about.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 6, 2012 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Ricky Ross either
"With the 14th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.........The Dallas Cowboys select..............Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina"
My card has been sent in
by Archie Barberio on Feb 6, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
yeah he showed since preseason he was the real deal
since offseason i wanted him as an UDFA, it’s a shame he’s playing with those suckers, but well he has a ring jerry jones and his cowboys nothing
I would like to see us sign Aaron Ross
Come back home to Texas Aaron.. We need you!!
by dcsince77 on Feb 6, 2012 3:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This team would be a super bowl contender every year with Eli Manning. Well, I am used to those spankings the Giants and Eagles gives the Cowboys every year. Oh well.
Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs
We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.
ok Brandon - calm down
Eli > Romo but putting him on this team wouldn’t make a huge difference….
Giants simply arent any better than the Cowboys and thats simply a fact - Terry
The Giants are NOT better than the Cowboys...thats the reality - Terry
Eli is stopped
Behind our line, he wouldn’t get the time to find the receivers.
Also, our receivers, minus Witten aren’t always where they are supposed to be on any given
play.
He’d suffer from that, as the Giants seem to be very good at position, and catching.
Look at how many times a game the Giants recievers made spectacular catches.
This past season, we didn’t have so many of those. The Giants had them every game. EVERY SINGLE GAME.
And how many times did they do it against us -- esp in that last game
I remember a certain receiver named VIctor Cruz burning our FS-Gerald Sensabaugh on more than one occasion (the FS that our brilliant GM handsomely paid to an extended deal) and also burning our CB-Orlando Scandrick (who our brilliant GM handsomely paid to an extended deal).
Our GM is so brilliant that he rewarded Sensabaugh and Scandrick to extended deals that rewarded them with bigger contracts when these two players haven’t really been difference makers.
Meanwhile, over the past few seasons, Giants GM-Jerry Reese drafts Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, and Kenny Phillips. And makes the right FA signing in acquiring Antrel Rolle.
Brilliant.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
What can the Cowboys learn from the Giants?
Same thing they can learn from the Yankees’, the Williams family is full of fools.
So I’ll explain the joke since few people here will get it: Kyle Williams (the dude that lost the game for the 49ers, twice) is Kenny Williams’ son, Kenny Williams is the GM of the Chicago White Sox and traded Nick Swisher for the prospect equivalent of a bag of balls to the Yankees.
Yankees suck.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
Yankees Suck.
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
If "suck" is defined by 27 titles, it must be great to suck.
And I am NOT a Yankees fan.
"Treat a person as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a person as if he were where he could be and should be, and he will become what he could be and should be." - Jimmy Johnson
Guys, this whole blog was wasted talking about the GMen.
They won, BFD. I hate both of those teams so I didn’t care who won. Although I do Hate the GMen more. Let’s focus on the Cowboys. This Giants talk makes me ill and the talk just encourages the trolls.
Wish you were here and comfortably numb.
by pfloyd1 on Feb 6, 2012 11:25 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
JASON GARRETT (2012) MODEL IS THE GIANTS GM'S CURRENT MODEL.....
FREE AGENCY: Jerrah should sign Carl Nicks (OG), Mario Willliams (DE) or Calais Campbell (DE), and Paul Soliai (NT). With Carl Nicks on the OL and Mario or Calais and Paul added to our DL, we’d SEE a drastic improvement to our PASS RUSH and RUN DEFENSE!!! Yes, we could fit these FA signings into our current Salary Cap…..and they’re ALL GUYS IN THEIR PRIMES….LOL!!!
NFL DRAFT: Dallas should draft a good man-cover CB (i.e. Janoris Jenkins to compete with our practice squad CB Mario Butler), a backup stud RB like Terrance Ganaway (6’1" 241lbs/3rd & short/goal-line battering ram), and the Center from Wisconsin in the DRAFT and pay them at the Rookie Pay Scale rate. NOTE: RB Terrance Ganaway is the ‘animal’ that played with Robert Griffin (Heisman Winner) at Baylor and gained 1,547yds and scored 21 TDs this year alone!!!! If Demarco goes down again this year, this BEAST could pickup the running load without missing a beat!!!
With an improved Pass Rush, these 1st year CBs and our current group of (young but experienced) CBs would drastically improve our secondary. They’d be picking off passes left and right from our improved Pass Rush. With an improved RUN DEFENSE, our Inside LB’ers (with super fast Bruce Carter and Sean Lee) and outside LB’ers would be policing up any RB’s that tried to go inside or bounce outside because of (big-boy) Paul Soliai at NG and (monster) Calais or Mario at DE. You’d also wouldn’t be seeing Brandon Jacobs (or any RB) gnashing us for 6-8yds runs on 1st down or easy runs on 3rd&short/1st &goalline or talking trash about our WEAK ( middle) Defensive Line anymore.
Cowboys Offense: Drafting Terrance Ganaway would make HIM a terror on 3rd&short and 1st& goal-line. Ganaway running behind Carl Nicks and Doug Free would be a gorgeous sight to see for Cowboy fans world-wide. Demarco and Ganaway would be our OWN (Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs) for years to come!!! And did I mention that Romo would have even bigger success with JG’s play-action passing plays.
OCC can you explain compensatory pick?
And why are Giants fans in BTB? Enjoy your season, Good Run and Well Done.
2011 Season ended yesterday. 2012 Starts today.
I missed the game and am glad there are NY fans in here to let me know how it went. (Extreme Sarcasm) Wonder if Pats won would we hear a sound?
From Wikipedia:
In addition to the 32 picks in each round, there are a total of 32 picks awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7. These picks, known as “compensatory picks,” are awarded to teams that have lost more qualifying free agents than they gained the previous year in free agency. Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player’s salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.
In summary, the Cowboys basically get a pick for losing Stephen Bowen to the Redskins.
by One.Cool.Customer on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
That Safety was the deciding factor in the game.
When will the Brady choked arguments start? He choked and cost them 2 points and it ended up being the deciding factor.
Sigh Dallas Cowboy/Romo double standard.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
how so?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
You could very easily blame what happened on miscommunication between QB and WR. You see that all the time in the NFL. In fact, I think you see plays just like the one every week that don’t get flagged. I don’t think there was enough to say it was intentional grounding.
It felt very much to me like, “Gotcha, Brady. There wasn’t a receiver close enough like the rule says.” Ya know?
No it was clear he was trying to just throw the ball away to avoid a sack, and there was no way that doesn't get a flag.
Rules are rules
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
How many times is that called?
When QB throws the ball out of the end zone to avoid a sack isn’t it the same thing?
You don't have enough information to say that.
That play doesn’t get flagged plenty of the time.
The crazy thing about that play is that Vegas was only offering 50/1 odds on a safety being the firstscore of the game
One guy threw a thousand bucks down on it
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by matt575 on Nov 22, 2011 3:09 AM EST
Yeah I saw.
50/1 seems too low but who knows.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Using what you got.
So much for the SB. Its time to move on and look ahead for the Cowboys. The Giants are a model for the Cowboys to look at. They have a mix of nice guys and a lot of guys with a in your face mentality. That mindset mix is sorely needed with the Cowboys.The Giants are creative and realistic about the levels of talent they have available and are willing to make adjustments in positions to max the players abilities. Perhaps the Cowboys might be willing to consider some options available to them..
1. CB. Reconvert Teddy Williams back to CB.
2. ILB Move Victor Butler to the inside
3. NT. Marcus Spears is a run stuffer. DT.Chris Canty, was an end with Dallas.
4. DE. Move Jay to his natural position and prolong his career
5. FS. Move Mike Jenkins to FS
6. RB Would Peyton Hillis be a viable option? A fullback that runs like a tailback.
As to the draft: if DeCastro or Dre Kirkpatrick is not available, be flexible, go for need.
1. SS Mark Barron
2 OG Darren Washington
3. CB Trumaine Johnson
4. OC Phil Blake
5. CB Josh Norman
6. OLB/DE Jake Bequette
7. NT Nicholas Jean-Baptiste or an OT
And yes; I am a Cowboys fan. But, you give credit where credit is due!
Giants Suck. Eli Sucks. And for saying they are a model...you suck!
"If you are prepared, you will be confident, and will do the job." Tom Landry
"The difference between extraordinary and ordinary, is that little extra". Jimmy Johnson
by Mikellie on Feb 6, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe not a model, but as long as Coughlin and Eli are in NY, our Cowboys will be hard pressed
to get past them. Our trouble, from reading the postings on here , is coming up with a first round graded CB and a first round graded OL this year. If we miss on either one, or both, we’re done for years to come. Just think if we could have drafted those positions with those tow 1st rd choices we gave up for RW. Man, what a difference we could have seen.
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There may be some validity to some of that.
While our conversion projects have been less than successful, a few of these might work.
1) Probably not, not sure why though
2) Maybe, but isn’t he better at rushing than covering.
3) Sounds good to me
4) YES
5) He can’t stay healthy on the outside. He wouldn’t last 6 games having to tackle.
6) What’s he gonna cost? Be a great addition to our backfield.
I’d only take Barron if we were able to get an early 3rd or late 2nd by trading back.
by StarloverinWNC on Feb 6, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
draft
In a way, and you really have to put aside ego and personal rivalry to see it, I think the Giants winning should make Dallas fans feel better. The Manning/Romo debate I don’t feel like touching at the moment, but sufficed to say I think the Cowboys and Giants have comparable, or near-comparable talent. They played better when it mattered, of course, and Dallas certainly has some holes, but the talent is there at a lot of the same spots, as are the deficiencies. The Giants were 9-7, and a lot of the regular season looked worse than that. Going forward, I am very comfortable taking our skill position talent over theirs; I’m sure NYers would say the same, though.
The one big difference obviously is the defensive line. The past few weeks of mock draft discussion my stance has been that the secondary has to be addressed with one of the first two picks, primarily because it’s the one area where I see so few capable incumbents or projectable reserves. I had kind of been locked into a “DeCastro or Jenkins/Kirkpatrick” position.
Seeing that the Giants have two rings now built on the strength of their pass rush, I am starting to come around to the idea of drafting a DE/OLB. It seems ChiaCrack endorses the selection of Melvin Ingram. Is he going to be an impact pass rusher, though, or merely a solid piece, a la Spencer? Looking at the admittedly limited information out there I am having a hard time really being sold on the idea that there is a homerun pick in this class as a pass rusher.
If Ware is our Pierre-Paul, where is our Justin Tuck? And if that’s Ratliff, where is our Umenyiora?
Giants have pretty good corners
Two of whom were first round picks… you combine that with investing on the pass rush
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 6, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
you're talking about prince and aaron ross?
Because Aaron Ross was on FO’s bottom 12 cornerbacks based on success rate this past year, and Amukamara’s rookie season could be described, at best, as up and down. He was even benched at one point during the season against the Redskins. I haven’t seen anything, statistical or visual, to suggest Blackmon or Webster are much good, either.
The Giants were 24th in the NFL in non-adjusted pass DVOA.
Hey guys
It’s so good to see I’m not alone feeling miserable. Wasn’t sure I was gonna watch the game yesterday, sigh I did. No party, no chicken wings, no beer. I haven’t watched the NFL channel since the Boys lost. I’ve peeked in here a few times, but too down to type any words of despair or wisdom or anything else.
I couldn’t even figure out who to be for yesterday. Tried to think, hmmm, it’s a nice story line to think…ok…Tom Terrific owns Peyton, but can’t beat the little bro Eli…yeah I’ll go with that, tarnish up his halo a bit. Then, when push came to shove, that wouldn’t go over for me, and again, I’m freakin rootin for the damn freakin loser again. This is getting real tedious. But, I’ll be back. If we need an astroid to hit something, I’ll put in a vote for JJ. I want to vomit on his shoes.
Just becuz you put yer boots in the oven don't make it bread
by dcfansinceiwasababy on Feb 6, 2012 4:57 PM CST reply actions
Get ready for another third place NFC East finish boys. Eagles and Giants will be big time contenders next year, and the Eagles won’t lay another egg like they did this year.
by westsidewolf1989 on Feb 6, 2012 5:24 PM CST reply actions
trollio
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 6, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah…I’m a troll a.k.a realist. As we stand now we are the third-most talented team in the division and are mentally weak beyond any comprehension. Hopefully we can get more competitive through FA and the draft, but I don’t see any reason why we would be expected to be a top 5 team in the NFC at this point.
by westsidewolf1989 on Feb 6, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
mentally weak?
lol… ok don’t chase phantoms; we’re not mentally weak — Dallas has a literal weakness at Center and both guard spots. Dallas has a litteral weakness at Left Corner back. It’s not a mental problem
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 6, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
and besides
Do you think Vick will miss less games in 2012 than in 2011? Do you think older CBs will get faster for Philly? Will they have a Desean Jackson next year?
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by AustonianAggie on Feb 6, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
on Joe D Calmis
more than the Offensive coaches or Defensive Coaches, the special teams coach talks to every player on the roster, giving him a similar roster over view that only the Headcoach would share
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Eli and Romo is like apples and oranges
Eli is a very good QB. For all you that are not in the know, Eli was chaining the plays 90% of the game yesterday. He doesn’t lose games. He wins them by making the play when needed to keep the drive alive. He has low INTs.
Romo on the other hand is electrifying when hot. He can win games when the team isn’t playing well. He has a bigger arm than Eli, has better mobility and can make magic happen at times when the play should have been over. He had a low INT ratio to TDs his year othe than just two bad days. What Romo doesn’t have is a good offensive line to protect him. The Giants’ Oline is better and has been better than Romos’. The Giants have a much better defensive line as well, hence why they are SuperBowl champs.
Romo had his best year yet as a Cowboy with a bad OLine. He was 4th in QB % ahead of Eli. His #1 WR was out for most of the season.
A new Center and an upgrade in the Guard area and healthy WR’s next year. A year on the belt of DMurray. Lookout NFL. Your in trouble!!!
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