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Possible Plan - Part I

Hey all. I've been an avid reader of Blogging The Boys for quite some time (since back in the Raf days) and I've decided to jump into the fray. I would have added a comment on the Lurker post, but I didn't see that post until it was quite full. Before I get started, I just want to thank you all for the quality posts and the spirited debates you contribute that keep us all entertained.

So with that being said, here's the first part of a plausible (subjective I know) plan of action to get this team ready for the 2012 season. In Part I, I cover options for the offense. I had a lot of content, so I decided to split it up (it's still wordy...sorry about that). Keep in mind, this is not what I believe the Cowboys will do by any stretch, just an idea of what I'd like to see happen.

Star-divide

QB

The team has to decide if McGee is a viable #2. In my opinion, he'll ever be more than what we've already seen so it's time for a change. Although the reports are we have a good amount of cap space, I don't want to tie up a lot in the QB position because quite frankly, if Romo goes down for more than a couple games, I don't think any free agent QB that doesn't cost $5 million+ will help us. The veteran I'd look to bring in would be Chris Redman. He's been a solid QB who has looked good when called upon in Atlanta. We should be able to sign him for a reasonable price. Also, a QB needs to be drafted somewhere in rounds 4-7 to be the new #3 and hopefully show enough to at least challenge for the #2 spot in 2013 or 2014. I believe in drafting a QB every two to three years until we have a guy like Matt Flynn, Matt Cassel or Matt Schaub sitting behind the starter. Hmmm, I wonder if there are any late round QBs named Matt this year...

2012 lineup: Romo, Redman, Late round draft pick

RB/FB

Some people feel we should try to trade Felix. I disagree for a couple reasons. When you break down his games, he actually put up good numbers when he had Fiametta ahead of him. On top of that, RB appears to be one of the deepest positions in this draft so I don't know that we'd get his true value in compensation. His contract is up next year so at that point, we let him go, hope he signs with someone else, and nets us a decent compensatory pick in 2013. As for our #3 guy, I like Tanner, but I'd bring in some undrafted rookie FAs to compete with him. I doubt a rookie beats him out of a spot on the roster, but I'd take the best one that doesn't make it and put him on the practice squad. As for FB, resigning Fiametta is a must.

2012 lineup: Murray, Fiametta, F.Jones, Tanner

WR

OK, here's the first place that will cause some of you to shake your head. Count me in as someone who doesn't want to resign Robinson...UNLESS, we can get him at a bargain price. I don't see that option happening so it's time to face reality and accept that he will not be on the team in 2012. The fact of the matter is he's our #3 wideout and we have too many needs to use the money that is desperately needed elsewhere. We have developing guys like Dwayne Harris, Raymond Radway, Andre Holmes and Jesse "clutch" Holley, to go along with a TON of free agents options. Who's to say a cheaper young vet like Josh Morgan, Harry Douglas or Chaz Shilens (just to name a few) wouldn't pull a Robinson of his own if given the chance in this offense? A guy like Eddie Royal also has to be a consideration. He has shown promise in the past as a WR and is an excellent return man, which is something we're not use to having. Now, I'm not saying I don't want Robinson back, but it's a buyers market and I'm looking for the best deal.

2012 lineup: Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, #3 affordable young veteran, two or three best of Holley/Radway/Holmes/Harris

TE

Oh Marty B...what a mess you've made of your career so far. I know some of you may be worried about losing his blocking ability, but have no fear because finding a replacement in that department will be easier than you think. It won't even cost cap space. We just need to hire a mason, ask him to build a brick wall on skids and slap Marty's jersey on it. It'll block just as well, catch just as well, move just as fast, and we won't have to put up with any idiotic videos. A bit harsh? Maybe, but, he'll want more than the veteran minimum and that'd be all I'm willing to spend on him. Phillips is two years removed from his injury and should be ready to return to the guy who was wowing us a few preseasons ago. We'll have to roll with a developmental guy as our #3.

2012 lineup: Witten, Phillips, Late round draft pick

OT

This one is easy and everyone knows it needs to happen. We switch Smith and Free and keep Parnell and let him continue to grow. That's it.

2012 lineup: LT Smith, RT Free, Swing Tackle Parnell

OC

I liked what I saw from Kowalski and think he may be our future at the position. However, I think he's still a work in progress and we need a stop gap player. To me, Jeff Saturday is a perfect band aid. He's up there in age so he won't command top dollar and he'd be a great leader for the offensive line. I think Killer could learn quite a bit from a guy like this. Bring in Saturday, and show the door to Costa.

2012 lineup: Saturday, Kowolski

OG

I've saved this position for last because it has drawn the most debate: Nicks vs. DeCastro vs. non-first round guard vs. FA guard not named Nicks. Me? I'm on board the "say no to Nicks" bandwagon. He is going to get paid and paid very well; in fact too well in my opinion. If this team was one or two players away from dominance, and could afford him, I'd be all about bringing him in; however, there are just too many holes to fill and that money is needed on defense. I've already used free agent money on Redman, Fiametta, Saturday, and a young WR so it's tough to justify spending any more on offense. We do need to upgrade this position though, so a draft pick will be needed.

I love the idea of drafting DeCastro, but I actually like Ben Jones better in terms of value in the second round. He can play both guard and center and I think he's good enough to challenge for a starting spot at guard this year so I have him in this section. In 2013, he can compete with Kowalski for the center position and the runner-up may end up as a starting guard. I think we have to take a leap of faith that Nagy and Arkin will improve after their first NFL offseason. I think we have to take a leap of faith that Kosier will play better considering he played the entire season injured. I would really love Nicks or DeCastro, believe me. But, we have young guys to develop already so before we move to replace them, we have to see if they can grow and use our first rounder where there is more of an immediate need.

2012 lineup: LG Jones/Holland/Nagy, RG Kosier, Arkin

So, half the team
QB - Romo, Redman, late round QB
RB - Murray, F.Jones, Tanner
FB - Fiametta
WR - Austin, Bryant, #3 young veteran, Holley and Radway
TE - Witten, Phillips, late round pick
OL - Smith, Jones, Saturday, Kosier, Free, Arkin, Nagy, Holland, Kowalski, Parnell

Total players - 25

Part II will be coming soon. It's all written, but I don't want to do too many Fan Posts at once and kick other peoples down.

OK, let's see what you think. I know it won't please everyone (and maybe it won't please anyone), but it's good just taking part in the community...

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Solid plan

I agree with you on Laurent Robinson, and pretty much everyone else. Although I do hope the Cowboys go after Nicks pretty hard.

by BrickTop on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

First off, welcome

Secondly, I think that with all of the top tier FA WRs hitting the market this year that Robinson could be up for re-signing for around $5million a year. Given the marginal signings you made for offense I assume the majority of the cap will be reserved for defense. Also, I think McGee is a marginal qb that will be a serviceable #2 or 3.

by matt575 on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

5 F&%$kN MILLION!

Are you out of your mind?

In my mind Robinson = Harry Douglas from ATL

Copied from Rotoworld below

The Falcons intend to use the three-year, $9.4 million deal signed by James Jones last offseason as a starting point in negotiations with Douglas.

Imo the cowboys should not pay more than 3-4 million for a WR3.

by StarloverinWNC on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually I was thinking what is realistic is probably giong to be somewhere between 3-year $12M - $15M

That just seems like a good range at what his agent will probably be thinking based on his production this past season, but also the fact that he is going to be #3 on the depth chart.

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by ProBowlFactory on Feb 8, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

How is that a good comparison?

First off – $4M is OK with you, but $5M means you are out of your mind?

Comparing those receivers:

Jones in 2010 (16 games) – 50 rec, 679 yards, 13.6 yd avg, 5 TDs
Douglass ’11 (16 games) – 39 rec, 498 yards, 12.8 yd avg, 1 TD
Robinson ’11 (14 games) – 54 rec, 858 yards, 15.9 yd avg, 11 TDs

Robinson proved his value is greater than Douglass – so $4.5 – $5M is probably the right ballpark. The question is more related to whether the dollars would be best spent on one of the eight other positions of need rather than WR3.

by doomsdayreturns on Feb 8, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome

I agree we could get Robinson for around $5million a year, but that’s too much with all the other options we have (IMO). Yes, I’m saving a lot of money on defense, but have a disclaimer in there about where the money goes if I don’t land a certain player.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Robinson has no prior success to fall back on...

No way I’d give him that type of money. He hasn’t even gone up against the best corners yet. They would be foolish to give him that type of money. 2.5 a year maybe. Let him earn a big contract.

by TheCowboyFan on Feb 10, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

no way I couldn’t take this; $5 million a season for Laurent Robinson and Dallas let Stephen Bowen go to the Redskins because Dallas wouldn’t pay Bowen $5 million a season?

Your 3rd WR is not worth more than your starting DEs

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by AustonianAggie on Feb 9, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Although I would like Robinson back.......

I agree it shouldn’t break the bank.

Trading Austin at the deadline for fair compensation shouldn’t overlooked if some of the younger players are emerging. Another player made of glass to go with the Cowboy collection;

Jenkins, Newman, Hatcher, F. Jones for example. Murray has the rep as well but deserves time. Newman will be gone of course.

Everyone hates Costa but he was the guy they played. I hope he is lifting weights as we write, no reason he shouldn’t report to camp. I hope they are all lifting weights as we write. If they draft big or not, I hope they have 18 bodies out there trying in the oline. The best 10-11 get to stay. 2 to the practice squad.

by Cwon1 on Feb 7, 2012 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

Austin was injured in 2011 so that makes him glass?

No. Austin is the best receiver on this team, trading him would be stupid.

by BrickTop on Feb 7, 2012 10:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Miles Austin

Has been injured nearly every year since being with the Cowboys. Mostly hamstrings, couple knee sprains.

by rawrrawr on Feb 8, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Hamstring injuries are common for speedy guys

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by ProBowlFactory on Feb 8, 2012 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I may have come across like it,

but I don’t hate Costa. I just like the idea of Saturday for a year or two better and we can’t keep everyone. I do think he can improve to the point of being an average center, but since I drafted Jones to battle Kowalski (and probably win) for the future center spot, he was expendable.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I hope Killer K

Will be another diamond in the rough player for Dallas! I like the idea of Saturday for a year or two while we groom a C.

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by mho on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Robinson should be a priority

He was the real number one receiver…

The jury is still out on Dez.

Favorite Prospects: Martin, Burfict, Rainey, Curry

by bitterlyhonest on Feb 7, 2012 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

really cause Dez was our leading receiver!

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by mho on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

but yes keep Robinson

Sign a quality G & C for the offense. A true NT, Spencer, and Griffin on the defense. Fill what’s left in the draft; CB, CB, DE, OLB, ILB, BU QB, & S/TE. If of course these are the BPAs!

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by mho on Feb 7, 2012 10:37 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

He didn't even have one 100 yd receiving game.

His route running is still questionable, and he hasn’t exhibited near the ideal chemistry between himself and Romo.

Robinson was far more productive in his time on the field, and also averaged more yards per catch.

Favorite Prospects: Martin, Burfict, Rainey, Curry

by bitterlyhonest on Feb 7, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Apparatchik I need to post this again

Miles Austin: 10 games
43 recs- 579 yards 7 TDs

4.3 rpg 57.9 ypg 0.7 TDs

16 game pro:
69 rec 926 yards 11 tds

Dez Bryant:15 games
63 rec- 928 yards 9 TDs

4.2 rpg 61.86 tpg 0.6 td

16 game pro:

67rec 989 yards 10 tds

Lauent Robinson: 14 games
54 recs 858 yards 11 TDs

3.85 rpg 61.28 ypg .78 tds

61 recs 980 ypg 12 tds

So for your Contention that:

Robinson was far more productive in his time on the field

Not true….as for the Better yards per catch, yes that is true. But for all the talk that “Romo doesn’t trust Dez” a WR doesn’t catch 60+ rec if his QB doesn’t “trust him”.

the only place that Robinson truly beats out Dez is TD’s and even there you are talking 2 TD’s over a 14 game stretch….not really that big of a difference (0.18 TD more per game)

Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
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by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 AM CST up reply actions  

How exactly

is a 100 yard game a good way to judge a reciever? Oh yeah, he had a pretty freakin good season, but he didn’t have a 100 yard game so he isn’t good?

by BrickTop on Feb 8, 2012 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

How many snap did Robinson play compared to Dez?

Did Dez even get off the field ever? Robinson made plays when he was out there. As far as the trust thing Romo has with Dez….They just have to get something worked out because Dez has to be more than situational.

Not trying to trash Dez at all. He had a great season compared to his first. But it wasn’t quite a no 1. receiver season. As far as the 100+ yard games. I believe a no. 1 receiver should have some big games, where it’s catch after catch after catch. I’m not trying to use that as a measuring stick. Also not saying he can’t be great but I think being over optimistic isn’t being realistic.

And if Austin or Dez go down, then who fills the void? Ogletree?

Favorite Prospects: Martin, Burfict, Rainey, Curry

by bitterlyhonest on Feb 8, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Additionally

How many double teams did Dez draw compared to Robinson? It isn’t close. While Robinson played really well, Austin and Dez drew superior coverage.

by NerdVernacular on Feb 9, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Do this...

They should just draft an athletic flexible tackle that can play guard. (Exactly what Nicks was). Then use the first rd pick on DeCastro, and switch the tackles . Second rd pick pass rush. Sign 2 mid tier corners and a center.

Favorite Prospects: Martin, Burfict, Rainey, Curry

by bitterlyhonest on Feb 7, 2012 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

Welcome Double T!! Rec'd for your first post!!!

Very well written and a solid plan. However, I see them keeping McGee for another year and see how he does with one more offseason. You have to remember that he has only had one full offseason due to injury and the Great Suckitude. Robinson will be back (it is a deep class for FA WR) and he is on record as saying money is not his first priority (I’m sure his agent cried). Plus I think he believes he can get a ring in Big D.
I really think Dallas will put together a solid offseason and improve the defense. Plus with our record or schedule may be weaker than the rest of the divisions. Just mho.

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by mho on Feb 7, 2012 10:22 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

also

Never not post an article because it is too “wordy”; we here at BtB like long articles. Unless its babble or you’re repeating yourself over and over and over over and over and well you get the point.
I look forward to your next article and I’m kinda hoping you post it soon!

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by mho on Feb 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Thanks for the received!

Much appreciated! I thought about keeping McGee, but I just don’t know if he’ll ever be the guy. To save some cap space to help resign Robinson or upgrade one of the defensive free agents I’ll list, it might not be so bad to keep him for one more year. You bring up a great point about him having only one offseason so keeping him to save that cash needs to be in the discussion of options.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:13 AM CST up reply actions  

You are right on about McGee!

He will never be more than he is now, and it is time for us to move on. Great article and welcome aboard. Rec’d

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by Frammis on Feb 10, 2012 10:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it!

Georgia has another guard prospect I might put ahead of Ben Jones. Cordy Glenn is a massive guard in the mold of Carl Nicks that can really move. But if everything went the way you put it I’d be happy. Looking forward to seeing how you break down the defense off-season.

by livemontana on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 PM CST reply actions  

I hear ya on Glenn

I have Glenn ahead of Jones too; however, I think he’s long gone by our pick in the second round. Also, he’s a RT/G and I like that Jones is the second best center in this class. He’ll eventually be our center and Kowalski would be a backup C/G. Glad you enjoyed the read!

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Meh...

It’s not very flashy so that probably makes it the most plausible. We won’t be breaking any offensive records and I worry for Romo’s well being behind that patchwork line. But I’m not gonna cry a river either. But you better show me the money in Part II for our Defense.

I’ve already used free agent money on Redman, Fiametta, Saturday, and a young WR

Don’t forget with the line-up you propose above you’re throwing some money at Lumpy as well to pay for a bunch of cheese fries.(He’s a Free Agent)

by StarloverinWNC on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 PM CST reply actions  

I agree, this is rather vanilla

I’d want a bigger splash for the offense, but when I broke everything down and realized how many holes we have to fill with our cap, plus sign our draft picks, I couldn’t fit big splashes in the budget. Also, great point on Holland. I meant to add him when I was re-reading the post before posting, but didn’t. If we have any money remaining after what I do on defense, I’d try to upgrade Lumpy to a guy like Make Brisiel who played in a zone blocking scheme for the Texans. Lumpy did pretty well though, so I’d be ok with him coming back.

I think I’m a bit more optimistic about the line than you (and in fairness, probably most). Saturday can still play very well and Jones should be an upgrade over Nagy and Holland. Plus a healthy Kosier will be a huge benefit.

There’s definitely more money on the D side, but again, with so many holes, I couldn’t see how we go after more than one top-of-the-line guy.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Not bad and realistic

I think they will bring in one FA at either G or C—I might go higher end for Nicks or Wells but … I could see an OL in the 3d round maybe, perhaps even a T that can start out at G (Matt McCants UAB?).

Agree that Laurent has to go if he’s looking for more than say $4.5m/year tops.

Curious to see what you have to say about Spencer/LOLB—that’s THE question that’ll effect most other decisions.

by DB23 on Feb 8, 2012 7:06 AM CST reply actions  

Agree with everything you said.

And yes, Spencer is the key. Things can go in so many different directions just based on if we keep him or not. My guess is that my defensive ideas won’t go over as well, but I just like the back and forth!

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 7:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if it where P Manning

ends up will effect where Saturday wants to go ?

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by BigBad Joe on Feb 8, 2012 8:48 AM CST reply actions  

that could be...

Their version of the Triplets is Wayne, Peyton, & Saturday.

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by mho on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

possibly

But the good news for us wherever that might be, it won’t be in Indy. Therefore giving us a chance to acquire him, especially if he is looking for a team with some type of chance of contending for a super bowl.

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by Ihatethesaints on Feb 8, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

what makes you think Robinson will demand a huge amount of money????

Im like seriously have you seen the wr FA list this year??? Its stack with talent and all of those guys more proven than Robinson.. Robinson can be sign for a nice deal.

Jeff Saturday and Redman is a no no.. I would rather keep McGee as the # 2 and draft a qb to groom. Also if this draft is so stack with RBs why not trade Felix in for a upgrade??? Hey in a stack draft a 4 th rounder may do just enough with a 3 rd rounder for a trade up.

But you so have a great logic and nice post.

by lostar2009 on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm not positive that Robinson will demand huge money.

I’m just saying if he does, he has to go because of other options. I loved when we picked him up because I saw a lot of potential from him when he was in Atlanta and I’d love to see him stay. He showed he had an instant connection with Romo and not all WR/QB combos can boast that. I’d be very happy to see him in Dallas in 2012 at the right price.

As for trading Felix, like I said, I don’t think we’d get what he’s worth because people will just take a RB in the draft that will be cheaper. I think he’s better than anyone we could get in the 4th round and that’s probably what we’d get for him at best. If someone were to offer a 3rd or better, I’d take that trade.

I like Saturday as a one year guy to transition either Jones or Kowalski. Redman was just an older vet that has been a solid backup IMO. I wouldn’t be heart broken if we kept McGee over him though. The more I think about it, the more I agree with you guys that are saying it only because it’s better for the cap to do that.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not like

DeCastro is the only rookie who would improve the line…Jones is no scrub. Jones is one of the better linemen in this draft so he’d be an upgrade at guard as well. Saturday would be an upgrade at center over Costa and Kosier should be better as well. Trust me, I understand where you’re coming from and I’d love to draft DeCastro and pick up Nick and Chris Myers in free agency just like everyone else. But the reality is, everything can’t be fixed in one year and the defense was much worse than our offense. Now, the offensive line is improved moderately and should keep improving as the young guys (Nagy, Jones, Kowalski, Arkin) get stronger and wiser.

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by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Good post

How about Robinson for $3M a year?
I like the Saturday idea, but keep Costa as a back up. He’s cheap.
Redman, Tanner and Parnell are stiffs. But the last two are cheap.
For backup QB, how about Delhomme?
Kosier cannot be a starter. The Cowboys MUST shore up OL via FA, but the top guys like Nicks cost too much. Evan Mathias is underrated. $5M/yr perhaps?

by the_hat on Feb 8, 2012 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

No Delhomme Please!

Redman is far superior to Delhomme and that’s not a compliment to Redman…I’d take an undrafted rookie QB over Delhomme. I’m in NC and watched him deteriorate quickly towards the end of his time with the Panthers. He then went to Cleveland and did just as bad. He’s done. I apparently have only seen Redman’s good games because no one is on board with him. Unlike JJ, I can be persuaded to change so if you guys were my advisers, I’d just keep McGee for one more year and save the cap money.

I like the idea of Mathis, but if we have only $20 million, that $5mil a year takes a fourth of that. We need that to pay for a lot of free agents and our rookies. I break down this more in Part II. I’d love to upgrade Kosier, but he’s always been a smart player and his plantar fasciitis should be healed. Who knows, maybe after a full off season, Nagy will win the spot from him.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Robinson comp

Lance Moore got 5 years $20 mil from the Saints—check out his numbers, similar to Laurent’s but Moore’s done it more than once; I think $4 mil/year is as high as they go to keep him.

Scott Wells at C? Would 3 years $15 mil get him? Then you let the guys you have fight it out at G, plus a 3rd round pick maybe.

I can see someone like Sage Rosenfels being the backup for $2 mil—mid-30s, had some good moments as a starter a few years back, Kitna 2.0!

by DB23 on Feb 9, 2012 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I actually had Rosenfels

on the list, but thought Redman would be cheaper. Rosenfels is definitely higher quality and if we could get him for a comparable price, I’d be happy with him as the #2.

by The Trenches on Feb 9, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Luv the Saturday idea

Jeff Saturday could prove to be real valuable to our young o-line. You can’t draft experience like this, just having him in the middle will help out alot with him being able to call out protections for us. He’s a great leader and I really can’t find anything negative to say about this move.

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by Ihatethesaints on Feb 8, 2012 9:13 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks

for all the receives and for the comments. I knew there would be some people who weren’t real happy with the line…because I’m one of them, but I just couldn’t see a way to do what I want on D and completely make the O totally dominant at the same time.

by The Trenches on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM CST reply actions  

Good post.....

McGee is wasting time and space in Dallas. Jerry needs to get a real qb in to begin the grooming process. McGee has no chance to be that guy.

I would trade Austin in a hiccup and keep Robinson. Robinson has feel for the game that Austin doesn’t. Eddie Royal would be the ultimate slot wr. Hard to do anything with Tebow throwing the ball.

NO on Jeff Saturday. Screw the stop gap mantra. Get a real player. One who has a legit chance at a long tenure. If they don’t sign Nicks or draft DeCastro maybe they look at Brandon Brooks in the second round. The interior of the o line is down right pathetic. Jerry should be embarrassed. But we know he isn’t.

Felix uuuggghhh. My least favorite player in Dallas. Almost kicked my tv when they drafted him and I still hate him. Wasted first rounder. He is remider everytime I see him how bad Jerry and his cronies have been in the draft.

Jerry is the end all in Dallas.

by football mensa on Feb 9, 2012 8:24 AM CST reply actions  

I can see

both sides of trading Austin, but I like him more than Robinson personally.

I like Chris Myers more than Saturday and would love to bring him in long term. The problems come in with, is he affordable and in this scenario, I had planned on taking Jones, who could develop into a better center than anyone you’ll get in free agency.

I feel your pain on Felix. I saw quite a few ECU games and loved Chris Johnson. When he was still on the board (along with Mendenhall) I was sure one of those two would go to Dallas. When they called Felix Jones, I felt we just made another Steven Jackson type of mistake all over again.

by The Trenches on Feb 9, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

On Jeff Saturday

Rather than offer him a contract to bring him back, the Colts (as well as another team) have offered him a front office role. I think he’d make a great leader, but at 36, I’m not so sure he’d be even remotely as helpful as he would have a few years ago. Ten games into the season, we’re looking at another Keith Brooking scenario. I’d pass.

by NerdVernacular on Feb 9, 2012 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

Remember Remember

That Nagy was a Center in college and ahead of Konz before he got hurt, so I wouldn’t count him out of the running for back-up or starting Center. The problem with Costa was strength and getting pushed back so easily, at 36, I think Jeff Saturday would share the same problem with Costa.

I say we try and sign Robinson, but anything more than 4.5 a year and I’m off that bandwagon (Maybe.. I really like Robinson, the dude stepped up last year), sign Fiametta and draft a late round QB and leave McGee where he’s at. Also, if you can get Bennett for $2 mil a year then that’s a go too.

So, you would have the same group returning for C (Plus maybe a draft pick). (Costa, Nagy, Killer K, maybe draft pick and let them fight it out) No money spent.

At FB you have the same group but had to sign Fiametta to a $1-1.5 mil/year deal. (Murray, F.Jones, Tanner, Fia) OG maybe a draft pick, but otherwise the same. (Nagy, Holland, Killer K, Arkin, Kosier, draft pick) So money was spent to re-sign Holland.

At WR you sign Robinson, get rid of Ogletree and let the other fill it up (Miles, Dez, Robinson, 2 of these on roster, other 2 on PS Holley/Holmes/Radaway/Harris)

QB Romo, McGee, Late draft pick. TE Witten, Bennett, Phillips and you had to pay to keep Bennett.

This is very minimal spending and you still have to pay $4.5 for Robinson, $1.5 for Fia, $2 for Holland, $2 for Bennett and 2 to 3 draft picks. That’s $10 mil from our $20 mil space and 2-3 draft picks and we haven’t even touched Defense yet which is the real mess.

by Static on Feb 9, 2012 11:00 AM CST reply actions  

It's daunting. We ARE a ways off for sure.

All that you said above doesnt even improve our Offense. It’s the same thing we had as last year. Plus a mid round Olineman to compete for one of the 3 interior spots.

This organization just needs to keep its head down and continue to plug along, we’ll be closer next year if they have a good draft.

by StarloverinWNC on Feb 9, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It is daunting for sure,

but I think the offense is improved by this (it’s all just opinion though). I think Saturday would be an improvement over Costa. The center should be the leader of the offensive line and Saturday would make a great leader. Centers can also play into their late 30’s as we’ve seen in the past so he still has a year or two in him of quality play.

Jones is not a mid round pick, he’s a second round pick and in most drafts, that’s where the top guards and centers get picked unless they’re deemed “special”. He’d be the best interior lineman we’d have. Kosier should be better without his foot injury. And, this offense was pretty darn good last year so if the protection is improved, he should be good. With that being said, it could definitely be better than what I’ve proposed. Hopefully our young guys improve this offseason.

by The Trenches on Feb 10, 2012 5:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

The people that have been throwing things out like “let’s get Nicks and Mario, and Grimes” don’t do the math the way you have. The amount of free agents we have to sign is going to eat all of that $20M and we’ll be lucky to squeeze one top guy. That’s why I said he’d have to let Robinson go if he doesn’t give us a bargain.

by The Trenches on Feb 9, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

For the most part

I like the way you analyzed each position, especialy mentioning Eddie Royal who I would want if Robinson couldn’t be retained. The only flaw I see is not fully upgrading the O-line, and depending on guys couldn’t keep Montrae Holland off the feild. As a team the Cowboys have to find an area of Dominance, and with the tackles in place o-line seems to be on pace to be the first unit that can really overpower a team. A dominate o-line worked well for our 90’s teams, and with the giants and eagles getting pressure the way they do… you get where I going. Also no need to draft a TE, if all you need is a blocker he’s already in the NFL.

by DA4GuY on Feb 9, 2012 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

Sigh...

Sorry for the sigh, but I was just thinking of how great those 90’s teams were…

Yes, I see where you’re going with your comment…and I do agree. The area of dominance I focused on was the defensive line, which you’ll see in part two. The 90’s team had a dominant offensive and defensive line. You’ll see in the next installment of the plan that we may still get DeCastro, but since it’s just a secondary plan, I included it in that section. I REALLY like DeCastro and it’s hard not to want to grab him.

by The Trenches on Feb 10, 2012 5:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Good post.

I wouldn’t mind the Saturday idea, but I can see that there are other options.

On Robinson, I don’t think he would cost more than $3-4 million because of the other FA WRs out there. At that price, I think he is a keeper.

I also expect McGee to at least be kept into training camp. I think JG likes him and wants to see what the off season does for him.

Formerly Pineywoods - different name, same cockeyed view of the world.
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by Tom Ryle on Feb 10, 2012 11:06 PM CST reply actions  

I agree about McGee being kept

at least into training camp. This was more based on what I would plan, not what I think the Cowboys would do. For that, I need some psychoanalysis before I even attempt a guess at that.

by The Trenches on Feb 11, 2012 8:10 AM CST reply actions  

Part II is up with a surprise

and ready for some of this great feedback.

by The Trenches on Feb 12, 2012 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

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