Cowboys Quickies: QB At 14? Say No To Robinson? Trade Felix? What's Going On Here?
by KD Drummond on Feb 8, 2012 9:33 AM CST
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Yep, it's about that time. Post-Super Bowl, we all go through a bit of withdrawal knowing that there is no more football to be played, and that we actually have to develop new excuses on why we can't go visit with the in-laws or take trips to the shopping malls. Unfortunately, as Dallas fans we are much further along in the process, as many of us tuned out this year's playoffs. Regardless, the season is upon us when all seemingly off-the-wall ideas get airtime and are given consideration; even ideas that were once considered blasphemous. Take a stroll with us around the interwebs.
Dallas Cowboys | Pro Football Weekly
PFW, not always the most reliable source (but they're working on it) but they do break quite a few rumors and stories, took a stab at outlining Dallas' offseason needs on both sides of the ball. While they had some errors in their summary (they say Bradie has a year left, he doesn't) I thought it would be an interesting discussion point to bring up their take on the QB position.
1 — QB: No one is replacing Romo. Yet. But Romo turns 32 in April and is entering a crucial season. With the heat turned up on Jason Garrett and Romo, there could be major changes in store if this team is not competitive. Stephen McGee has limited potential, and Jon Kitna could retire. Expect the Cowboys to be players for a QB in the draft, maybe even in Round One.
And... go!
Cowboys Position Series: Wide Receivers | ESPN Dallas
ESPN's motley crew is taking a look at each of the positions on the team and giving breakdowns on who is on the roster, who is available in free agency and the draft, and then giving their opinions. Fortunately, Bryan Broaddus is involved towards the tail end of the articles to give his "Scout's Take". I found this point of view particularly interesting.
Bryan Broaddus’ Scout’s Eye: The Cowboys will be set at starters with Austin and Bryant. The biggest question will be if the club makes the effort to try and re-sign Robinson or if it allows him to leave via free agency. I would not be surprised if the front office allows Robinson to walk. If that is the case, then his numbers will need to be replaced. Let's be honest, Ogletree can't do the job as the third receiver. Ogletree has been given every opportunity to step up and take that job, but he can't do it. If not Robinson or Ogletree, there is Holley, Harris, Radway and Holmes. Holley had some productive snaps but mainly on special teams. Harris was off and on the practice squad. Radway is an interesting player because if he didn't get injured on the last play of the preseason game against the Dolphins, there was a great chance he was going to make the roster. The plan will be to try and find another Robinson in free agency with the available receivers. I don't see them using a high pick on a receiver but taking the approach of looking at a height-weight-speed player later.
I love Broaddus, so it's interesting to think that the Dallas front office wouldn't be looking to bring Robinson back, especially seeing how bent he is on staying with the Cowboys...
Robinson: 'Hopefully my dream can come true and I can stay a Cowboy' | SportsDay DFW
"I’m loving wearing this jersey," Robinson said at the "Baskets of Hope" event. "I’m hoping to stay here as a Cowboy. But we’ll see on March 13 when free agency starts. Hopefully my dream can come true and I can stay a Cowboy."
And his wife, Kat Robinson, is on the same page, adding that they love Dallas and don’t want to leave.
"I know we’re not supposed to be looking at houses, but we are ready," Kat said. "It’s an amazing city and even when he’s done with his NFL career, I can see us possibly retiring in Dallas."
While I'm not in total disagreement that Robinson's opportunities came because of the focus defenses had for Austin and Bryant, there is a big something to be said for making good on said opportunities.
More...
Here are some other Cowboys headlines from around the webisphere.
Should the Cowboys trade Felix Jones? | NFC East Blog
Love Dan Graziano, and he is just getting in with the convo based on that motley crew I discussed earlier... but this is just silly. Felix Jones is a change of pace back. When Dallas finally has someone to be a lead back, DeMarco Murray, you look to trade him? For a fourth or fifth round pick? Never mind, as the article states, why would a team trade a fourth or fifth rounder for a change of pace guy with four years on his legs when they could just draft a 21 year old for the same job.
With linemen, Cowboys hope draft fortunes change after picking Tyron Smith | DMN
Rainer Sabin reviews the Cowboys struggles to find answers along the line.
Tiger Woods calls Tony Romo 'a hell of a golfer' | ESPN Dallas
They are Pebble Pro-Am partners, a combo that couldn't really get much better for this huge fan of both.
Phillips Looks Ready For Backup TE Role | The Mothership
Don't forget, Martellus Bennett is a free agent this offseason.
McBriar Has Surgery, Deemed Successful | The Mothership
Good for Mat, hopefully his foot condition will be recovered fully by the time camp comes around; personally I'd hate to see his time in Dallas come to and end like this.
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Robinson's value seems to me
To be more than numbers that have to be replaced. Like TO and Crayton, he has a really nice feel for what to do when a play breaks down and Romo has to improvise. No other starter has that chemsitry and it’s worth much more than X number of yards. Git er done Jerry.
Don't believe everything you think.
by dunkman on Feb 8, 2012 10:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions
patrick crayton had i and we let.him go
by rioplayer7 on Feb 8, 2012 11:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Austin Witten defn have it
And Dez was getting it. See both big plays against the Redskins.
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Witten most definitely. I think Austin and Dez to some degree
But not like I saw with Robinson and certainly not any of Dallas’ thrid option guys. I may be overstating it, but I really think there are WRs who “get it” and others who don’t.
Don't believe everything you think.
Oh yeah he defn does.
When you said “no other starter” I was like O.o! Radway is the mystery guy. Is he healthy yet?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
Robinson's Value
I was telling tarheel paul the other day that we may have got lucky because of the huge number of WR’S that are FA . There isn’t just scrubs on that list either. I don’t think any of them are going to have a huge pay day (9mil a year)
So in my opinion this works in our favor, unless the skins want him and yeah I guess they would give him 9 mil. Stupid Dan snyder
Make sure you smell it before you eat it
Good point on the market
did he agree before or after you gave him the noogie??
Don't believe everything you think.
Interesting takes
there could be major changes in store if this team is not competitive.
No changes to QB. Jerry spent a decade looking for a QB that could replace Aikman. He isn’t going to give up on Romo because the defense cannot hold a lead and the O-line cannot keep Romo from running for his life. Was listening to “Mike & Mike” this morning and they were talking about Eli and Kurt Warner’s comments about him (definitely worth a post in itself about Warner’s comments). Anyway, Greenberg says that he sees Eli playing another 6 or 7 years at a high level. Romo is 6 months older than Eli (but with less wear and tear), so I suspect Romo will be playing for just as long (barring injury).
Robinson – he says what (just about) every free agent to be says. “I would love to stay at [insert current team], but we’ll see what free agency brings.” Translation: “my agent told me to not burn any bridges but make sure everybody else knows that I’m open to offers.” Regardless, I want him back, and like everybody agrees, we shouldn’t be breaking the bank for him. Today’s NFL requires 3 good WRs to be an explosive offense.
Trade Felix? Come on. You are going to trade a guy with a 5.1 yard/carry guy who is in his prime when your “#1” guy has already shown that he cannot stay healthy? Trade him for a 4th or 5th round pick? Oh please.
Phillips – he is a 2nd TE. You don’t need a “better all-around player.” You need your 2nd TE to be good at what he is brought in to do – which is block. Sorry the Dallas Cowboys 2nd TE should never be a featured play maker in our offense. We aren’t the Patriots. Regardless, anytime the Cowboys have 2 TEs on the field, they are doing the defense a favor. Neither Bennett nor Phillips is a mismatch that you are going to exploit against most teams. However, a good third/slot WR is somebody that you can use to exploit a defense.
Why we don’t run more 3 WR sets (on all downs) is something that baffles me. This is where our offense and Romo shines.
Matt McBriar – we need a good punter. We don’t need to overspend, but if he is healthy, and I wouldn’t mind bringing him back.
"when your "#1" guy has already shown that he cannot stay healthy"
Seriously? How so? A broken ankle is not the same as turf toe, regularly pulled groins, or regularly pulled hammies. Give me the right angle and my 240 pounds would break James Harrison’s ankle. A broken bone is not the same as injured soft tissue.
by Jace M on Feb 8, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Put it this way.
If he starts ending up like Newman, then we have an issue. Not there quite yet, though I do recognize his Oklahoma days.
You need to do a little research:
I suggest you look here and here.
Let me quote:
In his redshirt freshman year of 2007, Murray suffered a dislocated kneecap late in the season, missed the rest of the campaign, and also was unavailable for spring practice. In 2008, he suffered a hamstring injury during the opening kickoff of the Big 12 championship and missed the BCS title game a month later. Even last year, when he started 14 games, there were questions about his availability for the Big 12 championship game due to a knee injury. That could be one of the reasons why Murray, who rushed for 1,214 yards last season, was on the board in round three of the April draft.
and
Durability is a major concern, however.
The fact of the matter is that DeMarco Murray, for all of his talents, is a player that frequently gets injured.
This is why I wouldn't mind
Taking Trent Richardson if he fell in the draft. Or taking Doug Martin in the middle portion of the draft.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I suggest....
Looking at why he stopped suffering so many injuries
I'm not saying Tony Romo is the reincarnation of the mythical Romulus. I'm just saying
So was Jimmy Smith, we let go.
So was Michael Irvin, we almost let go. These injuries are part of the game. He may go the next 8 years without another injury. Romo had broken ribs and hurt the pinkie on his throwing hand, just because these aren’t season ending injuries, doesn’t mean they don’t happen. Who among us is going to call Romo injury prone? Ware had to play with a hurt back, Lee with a broken wrist. Injuries will happen.
If I should die before I wake,
feed Jake.
u would be correct w/ that assessment BPS
the guy has been injured the last 3 of 4 seasons, it doesn’t matter how he gets those injuries whether its natural, incompetent oline, freak plays etc, the fact of the matter is that he does get hurt.
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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 10, 2012 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
I hope the people
who bemoan the fact that the Cowboys are lousy drafting in the middle rounds are not the same people who want to trade Felix for a 4 or a 5. ;-) Let Felix be the b-u this year, if you don’t like him after that let him walk and draft a new scat-back in 2013.
Lance Moore has put up Laurent-type numbers for years and recently got a 4-year $16mil contract for it. There’s your comparable—will he take it?
i disagree with a couple points.
Garrett/romo need that 2nd TE that creates mismatches in the passing game & are capable blockers. having Witten & a JaG that can just block is more of a problem then any kind of solution. blocking TEs in this era of the NFL better be able to catch/run routes or there not doing the job (Dallas might not be the Patriots but the 2 Te is worthless with only being a legit threat).
our #1 RB took the job fron Felix which has had issues with staying healthy himself & after his contracts up i dont look for them bring him back to just be a change of pace. you can find those guys undrafted or on the 3rd day of the draft (how nice would be be to have Muarray, L.James & Tanner with a legit FB that can open holes, catch & block.
if they dont resign Robinson then Garrett better have great plan B bc its still unknow if Dez is ever going to be this dominate threat we expected 3 years ago when he was drafted. Austin is great after the catch but he obviously has issues catching passes at times & isnt the type of #1 WR that they paid him to be. Harris reminds me a slower Ogletree & the ceiling for both doesnt look very high. if theres any hope in house its Radway & Holley but seriously i doubt either of those guys are capable of becoming a #2 incase of injury. i think WR is thinner in Dallas then people think & resigning Robinson could be huge for this offense. i also think having 4 Wrs (like the Packers, Giants, Saints & Steelers are becoming more important like having 2 TEs with the total package.
Austin, Dez, Robinsion, Radway/undrafted FA (4 WRs)
Witten, draft a 6’5+ 250+ TE/power forward that clearly creates mismatches & Philiips (3 TEs)
Center (vet FA) Myers, Saturday, etc or a vet Guard (not named Nicks) if they think Killer K or Costa are the answer at Center.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I disagree with a couple of your points
Garrett/romo need that 2nd TE that creates mismatches in the passing game & are capable blockers.
A decent 2nd TE is a luxury — not a need. I don’t like running 2 TE sets anyway. Better mismatches can be had by replacing the 2nd TE with a good 3rd or 4th WR.
Felix which has had issues with staying healthy himself & after his contracts up i dont look for them bring him back to just be a change of pace.
Why do people think Felix is a change of pace guy? He isn’t your classic quick and shifty 3rd down running back. He is a good-sized back with a very nice burst. You don’t average 5.1 yards/carry over 450 carries in the NFL and not be any good. Running backs break down (and quickly) in the NFL.
Garrett is a fan of the 2 TE sets which is why they drafted Bennett in the 2nd round
Garrett was ahead of Patriots (unless you could Belichecks 2 TE sets way back in the day) but the only problem was Bennett could learn the playbook & was very inconsistent catching the ball. you cant fix bad hands or stupid & the only reason he’s blocking all the time is bc teams dont respect as a reciever & Garrett has no choice but to use him as an extra OL/TE.
i’m sure Dallas would love to see Bennett doing work down the middle of the field instead of blocking & for those that think Witten is holding him back are kidding themselves.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Sorry ... unless you are the Patriots, your
second TE doesn’t get a lot of balls thrown his way.
Im sure Dallas would love to see Bennett doing work down the middle of the field instead of blocking & for those that think Witten is holding him back are kidding themselves.
People forget there are only so many balls that Romo can distribute in any given day. Myles needs his touches. Dez needs his. Felix and DeMarc need their touches. Our 3rd WR is going to get a lot of balls (hopefully that will be LR). Witten needs to get the ball. The last guys to get the football are the 2nd TE and the FB (and that is if they are even on the field — which many times they are not).
Ultimately, the clue to whether or not the Cowboys think MB can be the player they drafted is if they resign him. They see what he is capable of doing in practice. If he doesn’ have what it takes, they are going to let him walk. If he can play, they’ll probably keep him.
The Cowboys drafted Marty B
with the purpose of forcing teams to use a nickle defense. That was the reason they got rid of Fasano-teams stayed in their base defense. They swung and missed with Marty B.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I remember I was screaming at the TV to take Finnegan
over Marty B at the time because he was a very good tight end already coming out of U.T. whereas Marty B had underperformed at A&M. Jerry went for risk instead of accomplishments.
I think they took Marty B because he was a better blocker
and hoped he’d develop.
That tells me the scouts get a lot of say in the draft room. Scouts tend to love the measurables guy more than the production guy and feel the player just needs to be coached up because “of upside”. However, you can’t teach IQ, instincts, hand eye coordination, and good hands.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I understand that
I just remember when he came out of high school, he committed to the Longhorns, then switched over to A&M because he wanted to play basketball. I’m just tired of his immaturity and his commitment. He tried to blame A&M for his shortcomings out of college but he hasn’t ever shown anything. It’s more of a character thing with me. I remember Finnigan being a beast in the OU/UT game the year that he went pro. So comparing Finnigan to Bennett is UGH
I'm not a Marty B fan
I too am tired of his act.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Finley
not Finnegan. He now tears it up for the Packers.
Oh, my bad.
My bad?!
Your bad don't work in my world! -Ray Lewis
by TexasGarcia37 on Feb 8, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
Finley
not Finnegan.
Oh, my bad.
My bad?!
Your bad don't work in my world! -Ray Lewis
by TexasGarcia37 on Feb 8, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
yep you are correct.
I meant Finley not Finnegan. Just having a senior momet-lol
I will say this
at some point, Dallas is going to have to draft a QB
it may not be this year, but they should be really serious about doing it next year in the first round
Romo has taken some serious shots in his career and he is 32
do not have another Troy Aikman situation where we don’t have the next guy in line
"With the 14th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.........The Dallas Cowboys select..............Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina"
My card has been sent in
by Archie Barberio on Feb 8, 2012 11:08 AM CST reply actions
+8
He who laughs last, thinks slowest
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Indecision, may or may not be my problem
First things first
What do you have in Magee? If Dallas doesn’t think he’s viable, they should be drafting a QB this year or next. If they think they have something, ride it out and continue to develop him.
Oh, my bad.
My bad?!
Your bad don't work in my world! -Ray Lewis
by TexasGarcia37 on Feb 8, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
we have nothing in McGee bro
- or #2 at best
"With the 14th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.........The Dallas Cowboys select..............Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina"
My card has been sent in
by Archie Barberio on Feb 8, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
McGee IS NOT an option
Everyone who watches the games can see this bright as day.
He looks decent in the 4th pre-season games because he playing against players who have little chance of making a team.
When he’s gotten regular season playing time he looks scared. He’s late on his reads, late with the ball, and has a noodle arm.
Seriously, what do some of you see in him?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I see what I don't see in Tony...
no fumbles, no INTs, no screw-ups in the 4th quarter, no easy sacks, he can run for 1st downs and is not playing injured in key games.
Add to that… he’s got a 160 QB rating in the 2-minute drill.
I see a John Elway or Tim Tebow…
then you're blind
because if McGee would play every game I guarantee you would see plenty of INTs, fumbles, sacks.
Dude is no where near Elway but you’re right he could be Tebow, but since Tebow sucks, you’re proving our point.
In Romo we Trust
Romo threw 1 INT vs Philly
McGee threw none, no fumbles. They’re actually pretty close and you won’t know until he gets to work with the offense regularly. In the meantime you are just guessing. Until now he’s proved his worth in the 2-minute drill, and that Denver pre-season game he was lights out. Not bad off the bench in the 2nd half vs Arizona either, in front of 100,000 fans.
I believe that’s how John Elway would have done it.
yup that "1 INT" was courtesy of
mr allstate himself it bounced right off his hands, now had it been a pick like what romo threw against the jets or “loins” then i could see ur point but no romo & mcgee @ this point in time are not even close n the fact that ur trying to argue this is laughable.. Ur also bringing preseason games into this convo as evidence now haha please continue.
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by DarkKnight88 on Feb 11, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions
I am an Aggie.
I have a Texas A&M key for my apartment.
I have a Texas A&M wallet.
My jacket, that’s right, is a Texas A&M one.
I may drink blue koolaid, but I bleed Maroon.
Given all of that, I even have to say that the McGee to Elway comparison is ridiculous.
Oh, and fun fact of the day: Tebow was the only starting QB this regular season to throw more incomplete passes than complete passes.
"I know we put a lot of weight on championships, and rightfully so. But championships are won as a team, and I'm fully convinced of that. You never see one guy — a great player, great quarterback — carry a team through the playoffs and into a Super Bowl and win a Super Bowl that way. I've never seen it." - Kurt warner
Trade down if none of BPA's are there...
get an extra pick in the second and draft Tannehill from A&M. There is your QB. Just a thought. I am sure someone else probably suggested it too.
by TheCowboyFan on Feb 8, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
It maybe a smoke screen
But the Cowboys have said they want to sign a QB in FA
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
Yeah. Let’s not draft a QB. Let’s put all of our hopes on a 33 year old QB who has ONE, JUST ONE playoff win against a washed up QB, and a guy who was in prison a few months earlier!. This is why the Giants and Eagles will keep embarrassing us.And this team deserves it. Hell, maybe the Redskins end up with a better record than us next year.
Luck and RGIII won’t be on the board, so trade Romo and draft Kirk Cousins and start rebuilding. 6 years of the same ole crap. IIf only we would have bombed last year and drafted Cam Newton.
Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs
We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.
and if the QB yo bring in is worse then Romo, you just put yourself in that 6 year rebuildmmode again
your logic is flawed.
finish the Oline rebuild
by yehti on Feb 8, 2012 11:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
So let’s stick with a 33 year old QB who has won one post season game?
It’s time to daft a young QB and start rebuilding.
Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs
We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.
yeah ...
It’s time to daft a young QB and start rebuilding.
Yeah … guys who throw for 4000+ yards, complete 66+% of their passes, have 30+ TD passes, have a 3-1 TD/INT ratio and a 100+ QB rating are a dime a dozen in the draft. In fact, if you are lucky, you might find one bagging groceries at your local supermarket.
So let’s stick with a 33 year old QB
Romo is 31 … to the extent that your analysis is nonsense, at least try to get your facts straight.
He was great
In those Jets, Eagles, Lions games! My God what a player. Never seen a QB play like that. He helped those teams win.
Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs
We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.
Did you start watching football this year?
Watch football (and Dallas Cowboy football) for 35+ years and then come talk to me.
Until then, I’ll (try to) refrain from feeding the trolls.
sure is tough to resist though
taking several deep breaths and moving on now. haha
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I know, but it's talking to air
he and Mclovin and a few others have nothing else to contribute. It’s the same crap each time, an irrational, unsupported diatribe about Romo. Since most people would stop after they realized they were making fools of themselves, you have to assume they just intend to annoy others.
Don't believe everything you think.
lol very nice!
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Romo doesnt lack talent
its more mental with Romo & its going to take a lot of help for Romo to get over that hump. the difference between Romo & Eli is from the shoulders up. Eli can handle those 4 or 5 bad situations in a game better then Romo. theres nothing wrong with it but it just means Romo needs way more help.
you can have the best stats in the regular season but when the pressure of playoffs & playing better calibur teams/coaches tells more about player then anything. while Peyton is clearly the better passer over Eli i’d give Eli the edge under pressure which has resulted in beating the team thats owned th Colts for a decade.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
This has been debunked 100x
but when the pressure of playoffs & playing better calibur teams/coaches
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
keep thinking that bigham
i know your man crush on Romo & i respect that. i like Romo but he tends to make boneheaded plays in big pressure situations & how you can debunk that is beyond me.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Its been debunked in about every imaginable way
His record in 4th quarters
His QBR in 4th Quarters
His QBR when games are within 7 points
The team’s win percentage with him starting
So if you hang onto the belief, you just need to recognize that it’s about you and your perceptions, not the facts.
Don't believe everything you think.
those stats support your arguement but look deeper for more better info
playoffs, major national televised games, etc. find those elite stats & let me know.
i’m not here to put romo under the bus or try to make him sound like a bum but when you only won 1 playoff game since Romo took over i’d like to see more then how good he does in golf tournaments. football is a 12 month sport unlike 20 years ago when they didnt have verything down to a science. it takes 1,000s of reps to get comfotable with the speed of the game now & theres very little room for error.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
you're ridiculous
Romo is every bit as clutch as Eli, he just happens to play on a team with a worse defense and ST, it’s really that simple.
Keep getting sucked into the media myths every other casual fan gets sucked into.
In Romo we Trust
Romo was a UDFA
-Eli was #1 overall
-Vick was #1 overall
-Washington has the #6 overall pick but will probably trade up to get Griffin
-Dallas will be the only team in the division without a 1st round pick at QB
-We’ve picked 2 1st round QB’s in the past, #4 overall in ‘65 (Craig Morton), #1 (Aikman)
-Both took us to Superbowls, and when we gave up on Morton, he took Denver to the Superbowl
-Aikman won all 3
-Hard to ignore those stats
-If we want to get back to the Superbowl, we need to look at QB
-5 Superbowl championships, both QBs were finalists for the Heisman, Roger won, Troy finished 3rd
-Romo will finish with a great Cowboy career but we won’t get back to the Superbowl with Tony
-Tony’s greatest season, and we finish 8-8
-Cowboys record with Tony starting since 2009 is 9-13
you badly want a 1st round QB, i see.
here’s a nice little homework for you, try to find some info on the following first round QBs:
Tim Couch
Akili Smith
David Carr
Joey Harrington
Kyle Boller
J.P. Losman
Big Bad JaMarcus Russell (actually you should leave Big Bad from your search, lol)
Brady Quinn (actually i like Quinn because from the trade for his pick we reaped Felix Jones)
they were all so-called first round draft picks. and you’ll fine no one among them whose best saeson would be better than Romo’s worst season
by the way, Kurt Warner was a heck of a QB. now go thell the Rams and the Cardinals they were nuts for not having a first round QB taking care of their teams.
by slowmotion80 on Feb 9, 2012 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
true - we got more than what we should have expected by grooming an undrafted QB
He has peaked and he could have more success next year, but he also could have another injury-riddled season. He isn’t declining yet, but we’re putting an injured QB out there for 4, 5 maybe 6 games and finishing 8-8. He’s gassed in the 4th and making bad decisions.
The only way we can protect a lead is be handing the ball off. The media knows it and they will exploit that like crazy next year.
he's getting better under Garrett
I think we saw the best he can be this year… he won’t start to decline quite yet but we will need a young QB behind McGee for depth. Romo is due for another injury-ridden season in ‘12, it’s an even year.
Can you blame him? I don’t. He battled injuries and even Aikman had an injury-prone career. It’s the state of the NFL.
McGee will have to perform while Romo’s on the sideline. This will be his chance, we’ve put a lot into McGee, especially Kitna, and he’s got a big chance to prove it.
The Romo addiction is cooling down. Same with Witten and others, time to put faith in the Cowboys not individual players.
It’s like Landry said, the system will be successful. We survived the retirement of Staubach and had some pretty good years under White.
put Romo on the Patriots or Colt team & see where they finish lol
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
also bigham i support Romo.
i just think he needs way more help then the top 5 QBs in the NFL & that starts with the defense.
Romo + a running game + a dominate pass rush = super bowl
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
you mean the same type of help Eli has
and every other qb had when they lead their team to a SB….you make no sense whatsoever
In Romo we Trust
No ....
the team thats owned th Colts for a decade.
The team that owned the Colts for a good part of the decade didn’t have the 31st ranked defense in the league.
the Patriots have owned the Colts for the most part of the decade
the same cant be said about the Patriots & Giants. clearly Peyton is the better passer over Eli & both teams have dominate pass rushers but Eli makes those 4 or 5 plays a game that Peyton didnt.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
my bad haha
finish the Oline rebuild
by yehti on Feb 8, 2012 11:54 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
You spelled afwull wrong
His logic was awful.
Romo is the 2nd best qb in the east and probablly the 4th in the nfc with only rodgers brees and manning in front of him.
And the gap between him and eli isnt huge. From a talent perspective. This team as lomg as it has Romo isnt rebuilding, and will be in the hunt for the next 3-5 years. Fact.
by Proxy406 on Feb 8, 2012 12:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You’re comparing a guy with one playoff win to a guy with TWO super bowl wins and two super bowl MVPS?
The other QBs in this division ALONE have done more in the playoffs than Romo. Except for Grossman, the other two have done it with less talented teams. Romo couldn’t do anything with 13 pro bowlers, LOL.
Tony Romo with 13 Pro Bowlers = one and out in the playoffs
We will not make the playoffs next year with Romo.
no he is making fun of you
which you make real easy
Brandon,
I think I hear your special ed teacher calling you. It’s time to take your underwear off your head, stop picking your nose, and get on that little yellow school bus.
You’ve had enough excitement for one day. We don’t need you scaring the normal
people.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
/reads first two sentences
/skips subthread
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
i agree with what alot of people say
you draft a QB EVERY year. 5-7 rd every year there should be a QB selected.
finish the Oline rebuild
by yehti on Feb 8, 2012 11:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions
you do that
when you are a well rounded team with very few needs or gaping holes. Dallas is nowhere near that point yet.
Oh, my bad.
My bad?!
Your bad don't work in my world! -Ray Lewis
by TexasGarcia37 on Feb 8, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
i still think its sound logic
look at what the Eagles got for Kolb. a good young QB with promise will get you a kings ransom. for a 5-7th round pick every year its worth it IMO.
finish the Oline rebuild
by yehti on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
McGee was a 2nd rd pick himself
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Crap I meant Kevin Kolb*
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
see above, I meant Kevin Kolb
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you'll find these teams that have some magical power when dealing
i mean Patriots, Eagles, they always seem to totally rob the team they’re trading with.
be it either raw suggestion or superior sales skills, they’ll pick your pocket and you will still thank them.
I disagree
For what he was, a seventh round pick who transitioned from a college QB to a WR, he did very well for himself. Especially when he found his niche as a slot/#3 WR. He talked, but for where he came from he had a reason to brag a little.
Oh, my bad.
My bad?!
Your bad don't work in my world! -Ray Lewis
by TexasGarcia37 on Feb 8, 2012 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
Tony better keep his wife away from Tiger
On a more serious note, I hope Jerry has a contract ready for Robinson.
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
Twitter: @silva918
do you realize how much time, practice & effort it takes to prepare for these golf events?
i dont mind seeing a player playing golf but Romo really needs to rethink his offseason until Dallas has some success. this gig with Tiger isnt the end of the world but the ones near training camp really bug me & should bug the fans,
Romo puts more time becoming a pro golfer then a pro QB on his offseasons & after last 6 years you’d think Romo would get little more serious about getting together with his WRs a couple days a week, become a film junkie & put a little more time in the gym to make his body more durable. the elite QB like Brees, Peyton, Rodgers, Rivers & even Ryan/Stafford put in 11 months of work to prefecting there craft. football’s become a year around sport & trying to be a pro golfer all offseason isnt making Romo any better.
i bet if they miss the playoffs or gt boucned the 1st round this season there wont be any Golf next season for Romo bc both him & Garretts job will be on the line. Parcells always stayed on Romo about working harder, putting more time in the film room & working out in the gym bc thats whats it takes to play QB in todays NFL>
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
So ... you've got the numbers?
You know exactly how much time all the other QBs spent perfecting their craft? From the weight room, to the practice field, to the film room?
Care to share those numbers with us? How much time does Romo need to make up?
but the ones near training camp really bug me & should bug the fans
This is where the root of the problem lies — your problem that is. You don’t realize that no football player is working on football 100% of their waking hours. They all have lives outside of football. I’m sure they’ll all say they need to get away from the game from time to time. Personally, I have no problem with Tony playing golf. Better golf than playing basketball or skiing (lot less chance to get hurt). He’s a competitor — I like that from my QB.
i bet if they miss the playoffs or gt boucned the 1st round this season there wont be any Golf next season for Romo bc both him & Garretts job will be on the line.
If Romo is healthy and under contract for 2013, I’ll bet you $5K that he will be the starter of the Cowboys. Jerry gets $5K from me every year to pay for my season tickets, and it would be nice of somebody else paid it.
i know what it takes to be a scratch golfer & how do you know what other players do in the offseason?
i didnt say Romo wouldn’t be starting in 2013, i did say i bet his offseason wont be spent playing golf tournaments if they dont make a serious run this season.
you do realize if Romo wins all the tournaments to qualify for the US open he wont make the beginning of training camp? he almost made it in 2008 or 09 & had Jerrys okay to miss training camp for his golf tournament so with his improved skills over the last couple seasons it’ll be fun to see how his teammates react if he makes it & misses a couple weeks of TC.
also just like any other job practice makes perfect & with QBs making it a 12 month job those that dont will fall behind.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
What was Rodgers doing last offseason?
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
He wasn't holding minicamps like Romo, Brees, Brady, and Eli
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
we dont know that unless you was there
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Actually we do know that the Packers weren't holding team mini camps for themselves like Romo was holding for us.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/gameflash/2011/09/08/4393_recap.html
If Thursday’s season opener at Lambeau Field could be considered a referendum on the importance of those player-led team workouts, the results are in after the Packers’ wild 42-34 victory over the New Orleans Saints : The sessions Drew Brees led over the summer weren’t enough to help the Saints take down the reigning champions, and the Packers’ decision not to get together as a team certainly didn’t seem to hurt them.
btw, this is off-subject but did anyone
catch what Rodgers said in pre-game about what the Giants did to slow down the pace of a fast moving offense? They faked injuries. Pretty cheap if you ask me.
You don't remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY26rgd4aps&feature=related
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
I hope the rules committee changes this
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
see we dont know bc he wasnt trying to qualify for anything except a super bowl winning QB
i’m just tired of hearing how emotional Romo gets on record about Golf but none of that emotion ever seems to show up in football season.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
You must not have been watching the San Francisco game
but none of that emotion ever seems to show up in football season.
okay thats 1 game out of 6 years
i’m not going to argue bc the truth will show up on the field come game time. this season is huge for Romo, Garrett & probably the direction this organizations going.
Jerry fully expected to beat the Giants last season & be in the playoffs. i can assure you Garrett or Romo will become the goat (like Wade was) if Dallas doesn’t make a legit run in the playoffs this season.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Really???
If you think that Romo doesn’t care about winning and losing, then you are this close [imagine two fingers really close together] to being relegated to troll status.
Jerry thinks Dallas is loaded with talent. He is alone in that group.
Jerry fully expected to beat the Giants last season & be in the playoffs
DC it doesn’t matter what a player does in the off season. It’s none of our business. They don’t owe us anything except when they hit the field. Then they should be ready to ball.
Conversely I don’t owe them anything and when they begin to decline I am more than willing to cut them. I don’t care who they are. They get paid well to play. If they can’t then cut them. I don’t get emotionally attached to players.
Jerry is the end all in Dallas.
by football mensa on Feb 10, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Brees loves golf also and holds his own personal toury during the off season.
But hey, he has a ring, he can do that.
So that was not the Mnning brothers I saw playing the urich Classic last summer
Archie, Peyton and Eli play a number of tournaments together every offseason and have for years. I remeber Eli playing a Prro Am in North Carolina with Tiger as his partner several years ago also.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
+1
HAHA
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Dunno, but he's playing golf this off season, too. Same tournament as
Romo. He must not care about winning either.
If you know what it takes to be a scratch golfer ...
you also know what type of mental toughness you need. If you have a bad hole, you need to immediately forget it and move on to the next. Sounds like good training for a QB because every QB (even Romo — although certainly at a much lower rate than the rest of the league) throws an INT every so often and you need to shake it off.
so Tiger should try playing QB to improve his putting?
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
no
The “putter” worked well he was in the hole every time. I understand his “driving” was an issue tho
Hell and Horse Manure.....HIT SOMEONE
by sexililkitti on Feb 8, 2012 3:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You drive with a 3 iron upside your noggin.
See if you don’t smack a tree.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
"Meanwhile, like a bitter wine, Philadelphia’s jealousy fermented in the dark cellars of pride and resentment. With no playoff hopes of their own, Eagles fans turned towards hating the Cowboys." Steve Sabol, NFL films
Not this crap again
You obviously missed the part about how Romo had his own OTAs going from Late April till the end of the lockout. He got over 40 guys to show up to most of those Romo OTAs. But yeah, you just whine and moan about his golf game and lack of dedication to football.
Romo wouldn’t have made it this far if he wasn’t dedicated to his craft. There’s a reason Romo still has his job and performs at a pro bowl level where as JaMarcus Russell is no longer in the league, 5 years after being #1 over all pick.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i didnt compare J Russels work ethic to Romos & thats just stupid.
i just said Romo needs more then TC/Preseason to get this team over the hump as a QB & those player held workouts need to happen every offseason if they want to get the job done.
say what you want about my opinion but until this team actually wins something i dont think i’ve missed anything
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
I think it's obvious Romo puts the time in
But I guess you don’t.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 1:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You still need to show your numbers
You say Romo doesn’t put in the time. Where are your numbers to back that up? How much time to Rodgers put in last year during the pre-season? Brady? Brees? I could go on, but then I would be talking about QBs that had worse numbers than Romo.
okay you sound like you know golf some.
you do know what it takes to qualify for the US open? you also dont just pick up a putter after football season is over & expect to even be ready for a pro=am.
all those QBs you named have super bowl rings & if you dont think Brady works 11 month out of the year on his craft your kidding yourself.
Jaws & Gruden always talk about the extra work ethic of Brees, Brady, both Mannings in the offseason. in fact the mannings run a QB camp with NFL WRs/Cbs helping younger players so yeah theres plenty of football related things they do.
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Oh boy..
So, because Jaws and Gruden have man-crushes on Brady and the Mannings, Romo clearly doesn’t work hard or care enough about football? I know it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to think that you’re the one that “gets” it when the rest of us don’t, but I have a feeling it’s the other way around.
Is football the absolute most important thing, the all-consuming passion in Romo’s life? I dunno, maybe not. But does he care very much about it, and put in a ton of effort to become as good as he can be? Absolutely. So it’d be okay if he was doing something else, as long as it was football-related? That’s hysterical.
These guys bust their asses for most of the year, putting in more work than you can even fathom, dedicating their entire lives to football for that time. But because you weren’t happy with the outcome of the season, you think that wasn’t enough. They need to dedicate their ENTIRE lives to it. And it couldn’t possibly be that our defense wasn’t as good, our line didn’t block as well, the ball didn’t bounce our way, we didn’t have as much talent at certain positions, etc.. No. It was clearly that one single guy didn’t work hard enough.
If only we’d realized it was that simple! Just make Tony work year-round, and we’ll win! I hope you have a way to get in touch with JG.
by spm01 on Feb 8, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
forget about it.
if Romo hold a minicamp this year, and still not win a ring, he will be a scapegoat for keeping these practise sessions when all the players should simply rest and refill their energy cells.
you cannot do anything to this, if you don’t like somebody then it really doesn’t matter what he does, you will still fault him for everything.
there’s this little joke here about the bunny getting slapped in the face regardless if wearing a cap or not.
You used to have a lot more to offer
now you’re just sliding off into the lunatic fringe aka Brandon10 and mclovin. Enjoy irrelevancy….
Don't believe everything you think.
Enjoy irrelevancy….
"Obviously, I felt like if I ran into my lineman there it was going to help the play" ~Tony Romo
being single minded is irrelevant.
i see both the good & bad in certain players but i like the star on the helmet more then any single player. well i did love me some Dorsett, Starbauch, the Doomsday D – R.White, Emmitt, Woodson, Haley, Ware,
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Did you see Birddog's comment immediately below?
I guess the cat caught your tongue now.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 6:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Let me weigh in on this argument
I have more insight than just about anyone on what players are doing in training during the offseason and where, with whom and how much time they are spending in the offseason training. I have mentioned many times where and what Brady, Brees, Eli and Rodgers did for training this offseason.
I can say without a shadow of doubt that Romo spends just as much or more time training in the offseason than any QB or player in the league. Some seem to want to bash Romo for playing golf last year that was fueled by the media. Did they take one ounce of time to find out Romo spent time at IMG Academy in Florida working on speed and agility training or that he spent time at the Michael Johnson Performance Center working on vision and reaction training along with Eli this last year. On top of working out 4 to 5 days a week, arrainging the players led OTA’s or the amount of time he spent working with his TE’s and recievers.
This is nothing but the media trying to drum up stories out of nothing, just to get the attention of fans and none of it is based in any amount of fact. You know I remeber the days when reporters would actualy have to research a story and be unbiased. Today they just throw crap at wall, sees what sticks and ride it for all they can to get clicks and viewers.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four. Dan Birdwell. Oakland Raiders
How do you want to be rememberd. Go out there and play every play like it is your last play. Be remembered as the person you want to be for the rest of your life. Spike Dykes, Midland Lee and Texas Tech Coach.
by Birddog26 on Feb 8, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 13 recs
Thanks Birddog!
FYI — I really enjoy your writing. I treat it as a must read.
+1
All his are must reads in my book! Thanks Birddog Rec’d.
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
and green'd
Here’s a theoretical play from 2010: Snap. Tony takes 7 step drop. Tony looks left at Miles, who is doubled, and looks right to where Roy Williams should be…but instead sees Colombo on his back and a Defensive End foaming at the mouth jumping over Marc’s carcass. Tony proceeds to run like hell and look for Witten
-by CotySaxman on Jul 11, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Now, if somebody doesn’t agree with that, that’s cool. I also don’t agree with the fact that I don’t have $10 million in my bank account. But the fact that I don’t agree with it doesn’t make it any less true.
by One.Cool.Customer on Dec 23, 2010 12:00 AM PST
by I am Ironman!!! on Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Amen Birddog
It’s pretty obvious what drives internet “journalism” these days is more sound bites=more page clicks=more revenue generated.
The more articles you churn out the more revenue generated. Of course fact checking takes a hit when you can just hide behind “speculation”, or giving an “opinion.”
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 8, 2012 6:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the clarification BD
It’s sort of amazing what people will say with no basis….
Don't believe everything you think.
And the troll...
has been shut down. Great post Birddog.
"Wade is no longer the coach." Jason Garrett
"It's football season, and football players usually play football during football season." Tony Romo
That's a rec.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
Bingo!!! That deserves another rec Birddog
You know I remeber the days when reporters would actualy have to research a story and be unbiased. Today they just throw crap at wall, sees what sticks and ride it for all they can to get clicks and viewers.
The reason reporters can get away with that b.s is probably cause there’s a lot of idiots who hear 1 source say something n take it as factual, a lot of sheep are too lazy to do their own research its kinda pathetic really.
"Some people wear Superman pajamas, Superman wears Chuck Norris pajamas. But Chuck Norris wears Sean Lee pajamas. That is all." --sirjason22
"I'm gonna punch you in the ovary, that's what I'm gonna do. A straight shot. Right to the babymaker." --Ron Burgundy
Laurent (Alvin Harper) Robinson
Laurent Robinson is an Alvin Harper waiting to happen…
Now before everyone starts launching into the “He’s so much better than Harper” nonsense…let me finish…
Robinson is great w/Romo trusting him, Bryant on one side, Witten on the other, and hopefully next year, Austin in the 16 game mix too.
But some dope with a wad of cash will come along and offer him # 1 money like Tampa Bay did for Harper…
Harper was a great fit with Troy, Novacek, Irvin and Smith…but by himself in Tampa, he stunk.
Unfortunately, Robinson played himself into the Alvin harper percieved production zone, and someone will shell out for him…
My advice to the Cowboys – Open the door for him, shake his hand, thank him for the great year, and ask him to send a postcard from his new team…
Do NOT overpay for Laurent Robinson….
by Rome One on Feb 8, 2012 12:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think thats a great analogy
However i would say the one team that should have paid for harper was the cowboys. As he was a comodity in their aystem surrounded by the talent they had; very much like robinson.
Am i saying pay him wr1 money? No. But 5m a year? Sure. The offense works better with him. Has a chance to be special with him. He has chemistry with romo that dosnt just come around (see R. Williams) yes we have holes. But why sacrifice the one good aspect of our team. The offense works better with 4 viable pass catchers. I think thats worth 5m or a heavily incentove laden deal. Maybe im in the minority
by Proxy406 on Feb 8, 2012 12:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
similar players
speed and size, both can jump
"With the 14th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft.........The Dallas Cowboys select..............Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina"
My card has been sent in
by Archie Barberio on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
And my point is - they are in the same situation
Very Productive for the Cowboys and other teams will automatically think the production will come with the player…and in similar fashion…it probably won’t.
That’s all I’m saying…Dallas will be done in by their own system…Harper was great ON DALLAS.
Same way I believe Robinson is great ON DALLAS.
But alas, we smart fans are few and far between….
considering the injury history of Dez and Miles
letting go of the one other guy that can make plays would not be smart
Remember this guy named Emmitt?
JJ REFUSED to pay him what he deserved one year and it cost him the first two game of the season. He finally relented and the Cowboys won the Super Bowl that year. Now, BEFORE anyone thinks I’m comparing LR to Emmitt……lemme explain my logic.
THIS GUY IS A GREAT WR!!!! He’d be a NUMBER 1 ANYWHERE in the NFL. He’s got GREAT HANDS, GREAT DESIRE and has NO ISSUES like someone else we know. He also WANTS TO BE AND PLAY HERE. He caught MORE passes at clutch time and scored MORE TD’s than ANY receiver on this team. He and Romo are clearly BRILLIANT together. Now why in hell would we want to break that up when this team DESPERATELY wants to go to the playoffs? Neither Dez NOR Austin have been reliable this last season because of injury. LR came in and surprised us all with how great he played. Yeah, I know he’s gonna cost money and YES I know we have BIG needs on the D an OL but if you let this guy go in FA, this offense will SUFFER. The Giants just proved that with a GREAT WR core, and with a GREAT QB throwing to them, it will get you to a Super Bowl and a ring.
IMHO, this guy IS a NUMBER 1 WR! PAY HIM and DO NOT , I repeat DO NOT let him get away.
Oh and by the way, this guy is BETTER than Alvin Harper.
"Drew is a winner"....Roger Staubach
Inducted in Cowboys Ring of Honor 2011 FINALLY!!!!!!!
Hmm
He was cut by two teams. He fits well into our system. He is a great compliment to Witten, Dez, and Miles, but we shouldnt over pay for him.
by BrickTop on Feb 8, 2012 8:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Robinson was cut by two teams because of injuries
He had to work through it early in his career. When he did see the field prior to being a Cowboy, he showed flashes of his potential.
I like this kid a lot. The more I think about it, the more I see him being Romo’s Marvin Harrison. I would not want to break up the chemistry between Romo and LRob.
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 10, 2012 1:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
:)
Warms my heart on this cold Kansas day!
Optimissum Prime sees nothing but the best for America's Team!!!
by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
I hope he has B. Carter in tow..
Obviously I want Carter to live up to the hype, and hope he can follow in S. Lee’s footsteps of this past season. But mainly I’m really curious to see what a full offseason of Woicek does for everyone.. The man hasnt won 6 SB rings for being a cupcake in the weight room..
by AmericasTeamm on Feb 8, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
for my money
Robinson probably stays on a modest contract. He can catch balls when it matters, we need a #3, and I think Tony likes having another Illinois boy on the team. See above for Alvin Harper comparison. Robinson isn’t a #1, and if we overpay we’re just creating more cap problems. See- Marion Barber, Andre Gurode, Roy Williams, Terrance Newman. And that’s just in the last two years. EEK!
Trade Felix? Not gonna happen- I swear this is the time of year analysts are reaching so they just smoke a bunch of crack, make crap up, and start writing. Just stupid. Felix isn’t horrible, just wasn’t worth the #1- you get some third down production, give him some screens, he’ll be a great change of pace for Murray.
A QB could happen, but not in the first. My money is on us not drafting a QB at all and getting a veteran backup for the moment. The time to draft a Romo replacement is coming closer every year, but not this year.
Marty B is gone, so I guess we grab a 3 TE in the mid rounds of the draft.
This year we focus on our D front 7, grab some linemen, and continue developing the players we already have.
im not oppossed to us grabbing a QB in the late rounds at all
I think it would be good to get somebody in here to make McGee work for a living.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I agree totally
if we do take one, it’ll be a late round development player. We’ve still got a couple of years, and way too many holes to justify a QB as our first rounder. Shore up the problem areas, take the BPA (which probably won’t be a QB at 14), and if you can get a veteran cheap as a backup, why waste the pick when you can get help at other areas of need?
personally I'm kinda tired of the veteran backups.
From Bledsoe to B. Johnson then Kitna(who actually provided some help) I’d rather get a younger up and coming guy in there then an on the way out veteran. I would like to see us get one in like the 5th round and maybe another UDFA, if one is out there, to keep compition for the backup slot heated.
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by Cowboys_Attack on Feb 8, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Speaking of mid round TE..
Chia or anyone have any reports on such a guy?
by AmericasTeamm on Feb 8, 2012 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I really don't care what it takes...
but Laurent Robinson better be signed! I disagree with Broddaus…there is no way that you don’t keep a WR who worked so well with Tony. That would be the dumbest mover ever IMO.
I wouldn't overpay for him...
but he should make an honest amount of bucks…It’s not like he is a #1 draft pick to demand a ton of cash. He’s basically had only one really good year.
by TheCowboyFan on Feb 8, 2012 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
If he accepts market value or perhaps a bit higher...
it’s a no brainer!
Comparing Robinson to Alvin Harper is just plain silly
Hey Washington... D.C. stands for Dallas Cowboys
Jerry the GM…if we could only find a way to get rid of that guy…
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Comparing "situations" is not silly
The Cowboys find themselves in the SAME SITUATION as they did with Alvin Harper…
Quite easy to grasp frankly…
I don't think anyone is saying that they're the same player, just that the situations are similar
imagine if we had given Alvin Harper the type of money he got in free agency… ouch. Robinson is good, but I’m not strapping a saddle on him and making him the central focus of my passing game, much less creating more cap problems that we have been trying to remedy these past few years.
How many players that looked good on a loaded 90’s Cowboys roster got huge paydays and did nothing on other teams? Robinson is good, but throw #1 money at him, make him “the guy,” put him on a roster with an average QB and watch how quickly he gets labeled a bust
Russell Maryland?
"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."
by Rohpuri on Feb 10, 2012 1:59 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It's actually pretty spot on.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
PFW is frankly not much better then PFT
one is slightly less of a turd then the other
And Broaddus has impressed me less and less. ever since he became known he is more and more sounding like just another mediot
I don't agree with Broaddus on Dallas not taking Jenkins b/c he is too short...
I do believe Darrell Green, who also was taken in the first round, was 5’9 too. And how did that work out for the Skins? He played from 1983-2002.
except the wide receivers in the NFC are pretty tall...
and can jump-i.e. Hakeem Nicks,Larry Fitzgerald, Jennings,Julio Jones.
+1
Jenkins is a ballhawk & those few inches aren’t anything to worry about with his speed & verticle.
same with J.Hosley, the kids a straight ballhawk & breaks passes up against the bigger Wrs with nop. i’d love to see Hosley in the slot if Dallas can get him in the 3rd/4th rounds
Every team has a great gameplan until they get Punched in the Mouth. Sean Lee is a welcomed addition at ILB & Kegabear's prediction about Spencer looks spot on so far.
Drafting a qb at 14 when your franchise qb is in the prime of his career
and the team that has failed him in so many need areas in other positions is the dumbest idea in the long history of really dumb ideas.
In Romo we Trust
consensus is
That Dez has a break out 3rd season the same as many other elite WRs have done. IMO that leaves a guy who works so well with Tony in a great situation because Dez is going to draw even more attention than he does now. That creates opportunities for him to get touches. Robinson is vital to our success. On the other hand if Dez flops in season 3 or gets hurt LR becomes even more valuable to us. Pay the man
Hell and Horse Manure.....HIT SOMEONE
by sexililkitti on Feb 8, 2012 7:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I like him, but I think you have to let him go.
Too much else to worry about fixing. Can’t afford to be wasting any significant cap space on a 3rd WR. Between all the WRs that will be in camp somebody should be able to step up and take the job.
"The Angels are like the villain in the movie that isn't dead until he's been stabbed 150 times in the bath tub, yet he still might come back up one more time." - Eric Nadel
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