Cowboys vs. Packers: What they're saying
Time for a little "What they’re saying" after the Cowboys victory over the Packers.
Let’s start with the head coach, who still isn’t getting enough credit for what he has done with this year’s Cowboys. Yes, Bill Parcells helped build the roster and instilled discipline and credibility, yes Jason Garrett is doing a superb job as offensive coordinator and has future head coach stamped on his forehead. But the soft and cuddly Wade Phillips is one hard-nosed football coach and has the Cowboys playing fantastic football. Anyway, back to coach.
"It's great to be 11-1," head coach Wade Phillips said. "This put us in the playoffs, which was our first goal. Our second goal was to win our division - which we are closer. Obviously, there are some implications towards home-field advantage, but we knew that going in. But this was a big win for our football team. We really came out and played well."
Yes, we made the playoffs last night. I guess that’s not the headline that it should be because when you’re 10-1 before the game, the playoffs seem like a foregone conclusion, but take a moment to celebrate the Cowboys clinching a birth.
The big event of the game was Nate Jones knocking Brett Favre to the sidelines where he was a spectator for the rest of the night. First, a little credit to Jones, if there is one thing Jones does well is rush off the edge on cornerback blitzes. I’ve kind of ripped him about his pass coverage ability, but he’s a mini-DeMarcus Ware on the pass rush. Jones was a little apologetic about hurting the Great Greybeard.
"I don't know how I feel about knocking a guy - hopefully he's OK," Jones said. "Obviously, he's a Hall-of-Fame quarterback. But it's a big play in the game."
Don’t worry Nate, you were just doing your job, it was a clean, solid hit. And solid hits by a lot of the front seven when Brett was in the game.
"Brett is an older guy," Cowboys safety Roy Williams said. "You can't take too many hits at that age because DeMarcus (Ware) and all those big boys don't play around when they land on you."
By the way, great hit on Ryan Grant early in the game Roy.
But the unexpected turn of events after the Jones’ tackle was the Cowboys defense becoming a little befuddled by Aaron Rodgers. In my scouting report, one of my points was Brett’s not going anywhere when he drops back, his days of fancy-moves and running the ball are long past him. The Cowboys pass rush was just heading to a spot and didn’t care about lane integrity. But Rodgers handled it all very well, DeMarcus Ware explains.
"It did make it tough, especially on the rushes," Ware said of Rodgers' six runs for 30 yards. "We're back there rushing on him and sometimes we'd get out of our pass rush lanes, and he'll make you pay."
But not pay enough, because the Cowboys offense continues to put up points.
Once again, a team had to pick its poison by deciding how to defense the Cowboys passing attack. Terrell Owens forces you to make decisions on coverage outside, and Jason Witten forces the same problems inside. It just seems inevitable that you can’t cover both. In the first-half, the Cowboys moved T.O. around and got him favorable matchups, but he also beat Al Harris one-on-one multiple times. In the second-half, it was Jason Witten’s time as the defense was doing all it could to stop T.O. Wade explains:
"Those two pose problems, because if you commit to the outside guys, the tight end's going to be open," Cowboys coach Wade Phillips said. "And if you help with the safety on the tight end, you're going to be one-on-one with Terrell."
Let’s take a moment to mention another wide receiver in this game that did a lot of damage; no, not Miles Austin, I’ll get to him in a bit, but Patrick Crayton. Ever so silently, Crayton put two TD’s on the board in the game and proved once again that he’s a very valuable #3 option on this team.
I was wondering though, what happened in the first half when Romo and Witten couldn’t connect to save their lives. Witten says:
"Tony and I were just kind of out of sync there in the first half," Witten said of the incomplete passes, "and we had some misses, but we got it going in the second half. This team's been talking about it all year: We play our best football in the second half and put teams away. The second half we just had some opportunities. It wasn't about their coverage. They played the same coverage the entire game."
Wade says that the defense actually did adjust, and that’s when it became Witten Time.
"Yeah, they started paying more attention to Terrell," Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips said of why the passes were going elsewhere in the second half. "That's just the way it was."
OK, let’s talk about Miles Austin. Last week in my film review I said I liked Austin’s speed when he has the ball in his hands and that the Cowboys should use him on a WR screen or something. I should have said I like Austin’s speed – period – and that the Cowboys should try to use him on some long bombs. Twice, Austin got behind the Packers secondary and twice got pass interference calls to move the ball into the redzone. But not only that, Austin had some great kick returns and has grabbed hold of that position like a G.I. Joe with the kung-fu grip. One thing I will say though, Austin needs to learn how to cut with the ball and still maintain speed and balance. He had ample opportunity to put a move on someone during kick returns but failed to do it. If he can learn that, look out. Wade has much love for Austin.
"Miles had a great game," head coach Wade Phillips said. "He had been doing well on kickoff returns and gave us good field position. But I think he gained some confidence (on offense) last week. He beat his guy twice and they had to interfere with him to stop him from scoring two touchdowns.
"He's got a lot of speed and he's got a lot of confidence on offense and special teams."
Let’s give the final word to the Great Greybeard.
"They are the best team in the NFC," said Favre, who is now 0-9 as a starter at Texas Stadium. "They proved that today. I'm not concerned about the fact that we lost to Dallas again. There's still lots of football to play. We may meet them again, maybe here. Who knows?"
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Our defense pounded Fav-ruh...
And that was the key to the game in my eyes. For some reason Farve decided he could hit some deep shots so he held on to the ball longer, and he got nailed multiple times as a result. Both picks were direct results of him getting hit, while Romo was pretty much untouched all night, if that game were played on grass Favre would have had the much dirtier uniform :)
by mikedallas23 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 30, 2007 11:04 AM CST reply actions
Romo and TO
It's been said before, but these guys are absolutely on the same page. Several of TO's big gains were on plays where TO found the soft spot in the coverage, a couple of times when working out of the slot. Garrett did a great thing by working him in at multiple positions, and Romo is always looking for him. They're both playing the best football of their careers (TO, I'm going to pretend that the worst "drop" in NFL history didn't happen for the sake of this post).
TO TD
it was pretty genius. Faking the inside route and totally making a joke out of GB's zone.
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 30, 2007 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
The worst drop in NFL history
... belongs to Jackie Smith, gifting the Pittsburgh Steelers their second SuperBowl victory over Dallas.
Somehow, today it doesn't hurt so bad to think of that drop, knowing the Cowboys not only are looking like SB contenders this year, but for many years to come.
Romo is king.
Thanks... I think
How hard is it to watch games like this? Only only only on days like this is it possible to not only appreciate our great history, but actually stare into our darkest days.
I became a Cowboys fan the year they lost to the Colts in the SB. It killed me, and even now I feel we were the better team that day. The first Steelers lost hurt, but it was the second one that hurts more than any other single Cowboy game.
To start counting which victory was the greatest, I would not even know where to start. Hmmm... I think I'm off to start a Diary on the subject.
I became a Cowboys fan after the
Hail Mary play in 75 and haven't looked back since.
To me, that could easily go down as the greatest victory in Cowboys history.
Terry, I am going to post a diary later tonight
with all my favorite Cowboys Games... a TOP 10
I look forward to hearing more of your memories. I loved that hail mary game. I can't remember who was snapping to Staubach, but that drive would have been over long earlier if Staubach didn't recover a few errant snaps ... not to mention a few earlier passes to Drew Pearson on 3rd and 4th and long.
I became a cowboys fan in 76 (when I was 8)
so watched them play in 3 of the next 4 SBs, but lose both to the Steelers, and Swan's catch and Smith's drop have to be two of the worst moment. The Broncos game in SB XII , though, would definitely be one of my top 10 games, and because Golden Richards was one of my favorites, has game sealing TD catch is a favorite highlight.
Thanks for the lesson
I'm too young to remember this (I'm 26), but it hurts to see it now. Fair enough, that drop was worse. I've just never seen a sure TD pass that only the WR could catch turn into an interception in such an...um...creative manner as TO's "drop" last night.
But you're right, we won, it didn't matter, TO is still amazing, and it won't haunt anyone like this one.
BTW, I am now to the point where I am officially disturbed by how much I like TO. I hated him before he put on the star, I begrudgingly defended him last year, but he is putting on an otherworldly show this year. If not for Moss's season, people would be talking more about TO having one of the best WR seasons ever. His refusal to give the media much ammo, and the way that drives them crazy, makes it even sweeter.
Woj article
I have to say that I think every article I've previously read by Gene Wojcasjdfjewki was utter crap and I'm sure I won't agree much with the ones later on but I thought this article was pretty solid. Not the best team in the league but definitely the best in the NFC, better than the team that took on the Patriots, and a team that is getting better every week.
Also thought this exchange was funny:
"Fifty-two percent?" muttered Owens as he followed Romo to the podium. "What the [bleep] is that?"
by ab03 @ Blogging The Boys on Nov 30, 2007 11:18 AM CST reply actions
ha
I saw Romo's comment but not TO's, that's pretty funny.
I noticed twice earlier in the year when asked if a win made a statement, Romo said something about not being into statement games, and then TO comes out and says the game made a statement.
They're on the same page in the game, but not always about the game.
I appreciated the quotes, but...
I think it's unfair to piss all over our victory last night by making excuses for the Packers. The fact is we made quite a few mistakes last night and we still handed Green Bay their lunch. IMO that's a sign of a great team.
GB seems very one-dimensional to me - I don't think it'll be a problem to beat them again if we have to. And now we've seen Rodgers too so even better for our defense the next time around.
Another annoyance from that article was the comparison to the Patriots - let's face it, can ANYONE compare to the Pats this season?
Our only advantage going into a potential Super Bowl is that we've seen them before and we know what didn't work. Problem is they've seen us too.
by Pete on Nov 30, 2007 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I wanted to thank NFL Network
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 30, 2007 12:06 PM CST reply actions
My bar was PACKED
I still hate the NFL for this, but I think the proprietors of my local sports bar love them. I have never seen the place so full, it was wall-to-wall with people watching the game, and very few were actual fans of either team (though many seemed to care for fantasy reasons). It was like the normal Thursday night crowd on steroids.
Some News on the Taylor case
Police have picked up and are questioing three people in their twenties in connection with the robbery/murder of Sean Taylor Early Monday morning, hopefully the individual(s) are caught soon.
Perfect diary material ;-)
by Dave Halprin on Nov 30, 2007 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
I hope he does return
That would be great provided he can play, I'm just not sure how healthy he can get.
by Dave Halprin on Nov 30, 2007 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
FYI
I think Terry will return, and he is prob scheduled to return around the end of December... BTW 'Boys bloggers, I am also a certified athletic trainer... if you have a question about injuries, I'll try my best to answer them
There's not another quarterback in the league
that can match up with Romo and his multiple skills.
When he's on, his passes are thrown with pinpoint accuracy; his mobility is non-pareil; and he has great resourcefullness.
And the beauty of it all is the fact that he's still maturing!
We might have a dynasty on our hands!
plus his smarts
to understand what the coverage is going to do and see how the whole field is moving and quickly go through his reads to find the open man, and the way he knows how to look off the safety and not give away his intentions until the moment before he throws it.
I agree, his skills are unparelled
in the game today.
Brady, Manning and Palmer can work magic within the pocket, but move as if their feet are in cement. Put pressure on them, they become ordinary.
Roethlisberger can move around for a big guy and make plays outside the pocket, but his accuarcy isn't the greatest.
Favre's age showed yesterday, he just doesn't have the mobility anymore.
The complete package is Romo, the guy can do it all and like you said, he's only going to get better with more experience.
The days of us ruling the NFL again may soon be upon us.
Sublime
by bowl443 on Nov 30, 2007 1:03 PM CST reply actions
No, it's Eddie Murphy
from Trading Places. But I'm old enough to remember the GI Joe with the kung-fu grip, when it came out!
by Dave Halprin on Nov 30, 2007 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Me too, but that brings back tragic memories
I lost my GI Joe to my sister's Barbie collection. Just couldn't pry his hands off Malibu Barbie. Who knew he had going on?
RUNNING GAME
Sorry to be the turd on the sidewalk..but the running game worries me - specifically short yardage and goal line stuff. Watching Hoyte - we're hurting at FB - literally. I'm a UCONN homer and a Deon Anderson fan, which is why I got to this site - because this blog is the only one where I found any info on him early in the season.....but anyway...we miss the dude...and not so much on ST either...and I'm not being a homer right now..I thought I was at first but....
Just look at these #'s I just put together.
119 : average running yds prior to losing Cricket. Throw out Romo's brain farts against buffalo where we only got 69 and we averaged : 125 yds a game.
107 : average running yds after losing Cricket. That's with 167 yards against the Jets - who suck! Throw out the Jets game and we've averaged - 87 yds a game !
That's nearly 50 yards a game difference, and watching Hoyte last night take on the GB linebackers was not a pretty sight.
I wish we didn't IR him. Any word on how bad the shoulder injury really was? I'd sure like to have him back for short yardage and goal line when it really matters.
by jamonmypants on Nov 30, 2007 1:11 PM CST reply actions
#'s for JJ and MBIII only
oh yeah - those numbers are just from JJ and MBIII and WR's, didn't count Romo's rushing yds as those were busted pass plays anyway.
by jamonmypants on Nov 30, 2007 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
Mid-Game Slump
"But the unexpected turn of events after the Jones’ tackle was the Cowboys defense becoming a little befuddled by Aaron Rodgers."
Here's my take: After Favre went out, I think the 'Boys thought they had the game in the bag. The defense let up, the KO return team let up, and the offense let up. The Pack came back to within three. Then, luckily, the 'Boys were able to turn it on again. Offense, defense, and special teams responded and finished the game strongly.
It is very hard to turn it on again after such a let-up. Only a team that is "close together" can turn it on because, if half turn it on, and the other half don't, it doesn't work, and the motivated half get discouraged. Such a let-up can be fatal, especially against a very strong opponent, like the Pats.
Finally, such a let-up is natural and almost unavoidable. Coaching and veteran leadership can prevent it, it the "don't let up" attitude is instilled throughout the season. I hope the coaches and vets get to work on the "don't let up" attitude.
That's the prevent defense and offense.
by Baked Potato Soup on Nov 30, 2007 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
should pass interference be reviewable?
I agree with what Collinsworth said at the time, and what some other commentators are saying now, that perhaps PI calls should be reviewable. Altough reading the back and forth on the previous thread shows that even with multiple viewings it can be tough to call, but especially when the refs actually disagree on the call, they should have a chance to see the replay, because PI can be such a huge game changing penalty.
And maybe have inadvertent PI be a 5 or 10 yard penalty rather than the spot of the foul.
I don't think they should be
I think this would be a bad move for a few reasons. One, it already takes refs forever to do regular replays, and PI is much more subjective and difficult to judge. I hate the delays, so this would drive me crazy. Two, I think it might lead to more PI flags, because refs would know that it could be reviewed if they really messed up. Three, you'll end up with situations like the play last night, where even if they reviewed it they might have trouble deciding whether the call should stand. Four, I don't want coaches throwing a challenge flag when there was no call and claim there was PI (if that's part of this proposal).
I very rarely see a truly phantom PI flag (though they do get thrown). Usually the ref (if he is doing his job) will see something that prompts him to throw the flag, and if there is any kind of contact on the play, then that would probably be enough to put it in the gray area where the call on the field would stand. It's just too subjective a call to run through replay over and over again and get any real benefit out of that. I think in cases where PI is truly impossible, i.e. when the ball has been tipped, reviews would be okay, but refs rarely miss those calls entirely.
you may be right
and it probably won't happen anyway.
It is just that it is such a big penalty in terms of yardage that it can really be an unfair break if they do get the call wrong and there's no recourse. Last night I think they got it right, and you're right, they usually do, but not always, and sometimes that can be seen in the replay. It is subjective, but so are some other kinds of penalties. And they usually get other plays right, too, but they still have the review just in case.
I also get somewhat frustrated with the slowdown that reviews cause, but overall I'm willing to accept that to know that more plays will be called correctly.
I'm not sure if I think coaches should be able to challenge plays that are NOT called PI, maybe only those that are, but a coach would have to be very selective in calling it anyway, as they only have two challenges, and there would have to be very clear video evidence that PI did occur and didn't get called. That doesn't happen too often, but it does happen.
Grizzy-Grizz..
How can you possibly call Wade a "hard-nosed" coach??? This guy is nothing more than a friend to the players. The only thing they respect about him is the fact that he doesn't push them very hard.
Sure, they're 11-1, but that's due to the talent Parcells and Jones put together. This team is winning IN SPITE of their coach.
What, are you saying Phillips is 'hard-nosed' because he cut that 5th sting tight end during training camp? Sorry, but that dude was getting cut whether he was late or not.
Phillips is the worst coach I've seen in Dallas since Switzer was HC. This team doesn't know what a killer instinct is, let alone how to use it. That comes from the head coach. Phillips would rather remain friends with his players than play the best ones...that certainly seems to be the case with opposing coaches as well...he had a chance to slash the jugular of the Pack, but instead asked JJ to do something he's uncapable of (4th & 1 in the 1st half) just to keep JJ happy...
Ya, we're 11-1, but it sucks knowing there's another team out there trying to annihalate and humiliate other teams while we're trying to win popularity contests...This team reminds me of Rocky III, with us being Rocky and the Pats being Clubber Lang in the FIRST fight between the two.
I think you couldn't be more wrong
by Dave Halprin on Nov 30, 2007 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Huh?
Ok...where to begin...
Wade has pretty much the exact same roster that Parcells had last year, save Bigg. His team is 11-1 (the best record in team history), and has only lost to what may well be the best team in NFL history. How, in any way, is he not doing an AMAZING job of coaching? Is this Switzer's 1994 or 1995 teams, who were already champions that effectively coached themselves? Many players on this team are likely to finish with career highs in many important statistical categories. I'll leave our record-breaking offense out of this since that's more Garrett's area, though I think Phillips directly has created a far more harmonious environment for TO that is allowing him to flourish. Ellis and Ware are having career years in sacks and Ware is a bonafide DPOY candidate. Canty has matured into a complete DE, and Ratliff is giving us very good play at DT. Hamlin has already beaten his career high for INTs and passes defensed. Newman is having a career year for INTs. Henry is having a great season, eclipsed only by his stellar rookie year in Cleveland. James is playing the best football of his career. Pretty much every player on our (maligned) defense is having one of the best years of their careers...hell, even Marcus Spears has made some plays! Phillips is delivering on the promise of a better, playmaking defense, using the exact same players as Parcells. And let's not forget Reeves, who has played pretty well as a starter, and who would be buried on the bench if Wade didn't have the stones to cut Aaron Glenn.
I just don't know if we're watching the same team. Parcells' teams constantly played in the "prevent offense" and tried to grind away 3 point victories. This team has been consistently more aggressive and successful on both sides of the ball, AND we're giving up fewer of the crippling long passes that the team was susceptible to in the past. Some of that may be due to the assistant coaches, but you know who's ultimately to credit or blame for their successes/failures? The head coach, especially so for the defensive staff that Wade brought in.
And do you remember the coaches we had between Switzer and Parcells? I won't even mention their names to keep the bad vibes away, but suffice it to say they were, at best, mediocre.
Wade Phillips has been the perfect head coach for this team. This is true, in part, because of the way the players were coached for the past few years under Parcells. But they have really responded to the fact that he respects them and understands the toll that the season takes on the players, and he knows how to get the most out of everyone on his team. Almost every one of our players on both sides of the ball is having one of the best years of their careers, and they're clearly having fun doing it. Remember all those games the past few years when the team totally came out flat and stunk out the joint, losing to an inferior team? They aren't happening this year. Wade has made sure of that, and the players have made sure of that as well due to the accountability they are trusted to have. Parcells deserves a lot of credit for building this roster, and Jerry deserves credit for bringing in certain players to supplement the roster. But it's Wade Phillips and his assistants that have made this team come close to realizing its full potential.
11-1. WTF.
Sorry, one more thing...
I would be embarassed if we played to "annihilate and humiliate other teams" the way the Patriots do. What they've done in some games this year is shameful. There is such a thing as sportsmanship, and we've displayed it every game this year. I'm proud of the dignified way this team has carried itself this year, led improbably enough by the pod-person himself.
great replies Grapejoos
this team would be nowhere near 11 wins this season with parcells at the helm.Wade is the perfect coach at the perfect time for this team.
to say wade is the worst coach since switzer,is absolutely insane! My grandmother could have coached the 95 team to a super bowl championship! that team had already won 2 super bowls.
the lasting image I have of Barry Switzer is him,sitting on the bench,During the pro bowl,eating a hot dog!
Bottom line,statistically,Wade has the best record of any cowboys coach...
11-1
you can't argue with the results thus far!
LOL at the image of Switzer
Mine is a mental image of him being told he can't bring a handgun on an airplane.
I hate to break it to you
one: Parcells was a very mediocre coach while he was here.
two: Ireland and Jerry built this team while Parcells gets all the credit. Just look at when our roster started getting good. In '05 right? Thats the year Jeff Ireland came to the Cowboys.
Phillips method of coaching is to delegate leadership responsibilites to his lieutenants (Bradie James, Ellis, Witten, Romo etc.), rather than crowding out any leadership amongst the players like Parcells did.
Not to mention getting to 11-1 has never been done by any Cowboy coach, including Tom Landry. Phillips is doing something right. If you don't like it go catch some fish with Jimmy Johnson, I am sure he would agree with your sentiment.
by Burt D @ Blogging The Boys on Dec 2, 2007 12:05 AM CST up reply actions

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