Cowboys vs. Giants: 5 Questions with Big Blue View
Time for 5 Questions. This week I exchanged queries with ETVal over at Big Blue View. My answers to his questions can be found over there, so go check it out when you’re done reading here.
Blogging The Boys: Brandon Jacobs has turned into a stud. Talk about the Giants' running game and why it's been so effective recently, beyond Jacobs' natural talent.
Big Blue View: Jacobs (80 carries, 450 yards, 5.6 yards per carry) is a terrific player, as we all expected he would be. The Giants, though, have also succeeded with Derrick Ward (101 carries, 448 yards, 4.4 yards per carry) and Reuben Droughns (38/155/4.1) carrying the ball. That is a credit to an offensive line that has no superstars, but is one of the best in the league. They have been tremendous.
BTB: Is Eli Manning finally starting to emerge from his brother's shadow? Are the New York fans and media embracing him as the QB for this team far into the future?
BBV: Eli has been very good. He had a rough game against the Dolphins in London, the worst of his career (59 yards passing, I think). Other than that, though, he's been good. He has thrown the ball more accurately, has been in command of games, shown better body language and has grown into the role of offensive leader. He's made a few mistakes in two-minute situations, but he is a quality quarterback. He'll always be somewhat star-crossed in New York, but I think fans recognize they can win with this guy.
BTB: Plaxico Burress is having a fine season. I guess his injury and no-practice schedule is working for him. What's been the main ingredient in his successful season?
BBV: Burress used to be a guy who pouted and took plays off, a little bit like the reputation a certain wide receiver who is now in New England had. There has been none of that this season. Burress has played hard and Eli has been giving him chances to make plays. There is no question getting the ball to Burress comes first, then getting it to Shockey and Toomer is secondary.
BTB: We've been hearing all about the special 4-DE front-line and the pressure it can put on a QB. Talk about how the Giants use this formation and how the defense lines up.
BBV: The Giants use this line very judiciously and it has been tremendous. They will use it in long-yardage situations. You won't see it in third-and-five, but you will see it in third-and-seven or similar situations. This group lines up with Michael Strahan and Osi Umenyiora at the ends and Justin Tuck and Mathias Kiwanuka at the tackles. With Osi and Strahan putting pressure from the outside, quarterbacks have been stepping right up into Tuck and Kiwanuka all season, and they are fast enough to run guys down. The Dallas line is so big I am interested to see how effective Tuck and Kiwanuka will be coming from the inside, especially if the Cowboys try to go the trap/draw route.
BTB: Last year, Dallas got out of NY with a win on a last-second FG. What do you expect to happen this time around at the Meadowlands?
BBV: I am looking for another nail-biter. The Cowboys won't drop 45 points on the Giants this time, but the Giants won't hold them to 10 either. No predictions, but I'm guessing 27-24 or 30-27 either way, somewhere in there. And I am praying like hell that the game does not come down to a Lawrence Tynes field goal, since unpredictable is about the nicest word I can use for his kicking so far.
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Nice job as always Grizz
And thanks to ETVal, this is always something to look forward to on Friday.
However...I found a very comforting article on the DMN Cowboy blog regarding Eli Manning.
Peruse it here if you want (or need) to feel better about this Sunday.
This is my favorite part
-- Just twice in those seven games has he thrown more touchdown passes than interceptions, those games being against the Jets and 49ers.
Ahhh, Sunday can't get here fast enough
by gaz0425 on Nov 9, 2007 11:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Consistency is still the balancer...
as recently as the game against Miami points to, that Eli does still have a very real problem with efficiency and making bad throws. His completion percentage is well below that of Tony Romo. Also, Tony consistently throws for deeper passes. Romo, on the other side of the ball, has thrown very closely to a rate of completion at 80%. Thus, Eli can probably, with solid pressure, be 'coaxed' into a lower level of throwing the 'rock' around....
by CCBoy on Nov 9, 2007 11:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice job ETVal
I agree with everything, except the part about Manning. Stats don't lie, and he's nothing more than average. His biggest game this season was the 1st Cowboys game, and that won't happen again. You hear about the Giants defense improving, but Dallas' defense is also much better than in that week one game.
by APerfectStar on Nov 9, 2007 11:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Normally I would agree with you but ..
with the level of quarterback play in the league, I don't know what average is anymore. Eli doesn't make (many) mistakes and puts the team in a position to win. That's a lot more then most qbs do right now. We are definitely spoiled by Romo.
Derek
by DerekSTheRed on Nov 9, 2007 12:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Average, According to...
My passer rating system, is about 0.35 points per pass. Eli is slightly below average so far this year, coming in at around 0.34. (Forgive me for pimping my statistical system, you can check out my diary for more details.)
So I'd agree with Tom, he's basically average. Eli's not a bad QB, he just isn't elite.
by kindablue on Nov 9, 2007 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
I don't know about your system, but I agree with the end result. Certainly, I'd rather have Eli than T. Jackson, Q. Gray, M. Moore, J. Campbell, D.McNabb (at least until he gets healthy), R. Grossman, B. Griese, A. Smith, G. Ferrote, S. McNair, K. Boller, J. Harrington, JP Losman, and maybe Phillip Rivers...
There are a lot of bad QB's in the league right now.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 10, 2007 10:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's Really Nice to See
A civilized discussion between opposing blogs. Last week had me cringing. Good job.
by kindablue on Nov 9, 2007 3:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Eli ... and civility
I have enjoyed the back-and-forth with Dallas fans this week. Shoot, even Terry made me laugh a couple of times. I ask my readers at Big Blue View to try and show some maturity (maybe because I'm an old guy for a blogger), but it makes the community enjoyable for me.
As for Eli, he has had one horrible game (the last one against Miami). Before that his completion percentage was above 60% and many around the Giants were thinking he was playing at a Pro Bowl level. Is he as good as Romo? No. Can the Giants win with Eli. Sure they can.
-- Ed
Big Blue View
by ETVal on Nov 9, 2007 4:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
The Giants can absolutely win this game with Eli, and the Cowboys fans who won't admit that possibility are kidding themselves. The thing that worries me whenever Dallas goes into the Meadowlands are turnovers. In many games past, the footballs seemed to be gushing out of a fountain, and the Giants have the defense to create them.
I believe if Dallas avoids turnovers (like one or less), we'll be in good shape. Beyond that, I'll be getting very nervous.
Back to Manning, I think it's really unfortunate he was the number one pick. It's placed such unrealistic expectations on him. Were he selected in the middle of the first round, I don't think he'd have many detractors. People would recognize him as a decent game manager who can throw a good deep ball. But because the Giants sent a king's ransom to SD to pick him, many expected Peyton II, and that's not fair.
by kindablue on Nov 9, 2007 6:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree on the unfortunate part...
as Bill Parcells stated, the excuse period, no matter the source of origin, is during the first three years, and during the third year on, it's NOT your origins, but what you accomplish on the field. He no longer is protected by any sort of 'rook' shield for development....he's playing with the 'big' kids now.
by CCBoy on Nov 9, 2007 7:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's true though
If his last name was Smith or Jones, he wouldn't have been picked in the 1st round, IMO. A good college QB playing at Ole Miss, is not 1st pick of the draft material.
His pedigree was as responsible as anything he did on the field for getting him that 1st round money.
He has yet to turn into anything more than average. He won't necessarily get you beat, but he won't put the team on his back and carry them to a win either.
He is what he is, average.
by APerfectStar on Nov 10, 2007 12:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eli
I have always maintained that Eli should not be judged against his brother. There are few QBs in NFL history who look good in that comparison. Eli should be judged against Ben Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers, the other two QBs to be taken early in the 2004 draft. Judged by that standard, Eli is just fine. He is better than Rivers and we can argue all day about Roethlisberger. I have also always said that the Giants would have been better off to have just takes Roethlisberger w/that pick and not given up so much. I still believe that.
-- Ed
Big Blue View
by ETVal on Nov 10, 2007 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ben's
Better.
They don't throw as much in Pittsburgh, but (outside of last year) he's efficient when they do. I suppose you could argue he's in a better situation, but I'd argue that with Plax, it's at least even in terms of weapons on offense.
by GhettoBear04 on Nov 10, 2007 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so glad
That the Gints didn't pick Big Ben. I think Rivers is average to below average, so in that sense, I guess we agree on the talent of that QB draft.
by APerfectStar on Nov 10, 2007 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, with a different last name,
Eli probably doesn't go #1 overall, but I certainly think he would have been picked in the first round.
That kid looked great coming out of Ole Miss. Possessed a stronger arm than his brother with a pretty quick release, displayed good touch and was pretty accurate. Let's not forget Ole Miss plays in the SEC, and for quite some time now has been the best conference in college football, IMO. To me, all that adds up to a first-round QB.
Alex Smith from Utah went #1 overall for Pete's sake. Aaron Rodgers, though he tumbled, still went #23 or somewhere close to that. If those kids can go #1 and #23 respectively, I'd say Eli--without the last name--would almost certainly have fallen somewhere in between.
by Starred4Life on Nov 10, 2007 9:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
I think if his name wasn't Manning he'd be a mid to late rd pick.
by Terry on Nov 10, 2007 9:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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