Dallas Cowboys beat NY Giants 45-35 in a offensive explosion
by Dave Halprin on Sep 9, 2007 11:02 PM CDT
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The Dallas Cowboys won a wild opening game at Texas Stadium over the New York Giants, 45-35. The scoreboard had trouble keeping up with the action on the field as both teams decided that defense was optional, and they both opted out. In the end, Tony Romo was able to out-duel Eli Manning and the Cowboys walked away with a victory, but with some questions about their defense. But there is no question about the Cowboys offense as it rolled up 45 points and 478 yards on the Giants equally inept defense. Romo had an outstanding night completing 15 of 24 for 345 yards with 4 TD’s and 1 INT. The Cowboys were able to move the ball off and on using the run, gaining 142 yards with a healthy 4.7 yards per carry. The offense really took off though in the second half when the Cowboys were able to use play-action and throw over the top to Terrell Owens and the other wideouts. Owens had two TD’s on three catches and 87 yards. Jason Witten was the most consistent receiver catching 6 passes for 116 yards and a TD.
As good as the offense was, the defense was the opposite. From the first drive when Eli Manning hit Plaxcico Burress on a long bomb to open the scoring the Cowboys’ secondary was no match for the Giants receivers. Burress turned Texas Stadium into his personal playpen and was an equal opportunity abuser, torching Anthony Henry, Jacques Reeves and Roy Williams. The Cowboys pass rush couldn’t help as it struggled to apply consistent pressure, but did make a few plays in the second half to slow the Giants down. Until Terence Newman recovers Dallas will be participating in shoot-outs. Fortunately, with Tony Romo getting good protection from the line, the Cowboys have plenty of weapons to compete.
On special teams Tyson Thompson had a few nice returns in the kicking game, but also fumbled one giving the Giants a field goal. Rookie kicker Nick Folk had no problems with his field goals or extra-points but the kickoff coverage unit wasn’t very effective.
The Cowboys can be happy with the play of their offense and that they got an opening day victory, at home, inside the division. But they will be searching for answers on defense this week.
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It was
absolutely perfect, despite the defense.
Right now, I'm on a Cowboy high, and not even it's sloppy play can bother me.
What a way to start off, eh?
The season's finally begun, and we've started off in the win column!
Congrats. Romo! Congrats. T.O.! Congrats. Witten!
CONGRATS. COWBOYS!!!
by CowboyBawler4 on Sep 9, 2007 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the good - the bad
The good
O line
Romo
recieving corp
on D -- Spencer - Hamiln - Ware
an Folk un A - who needs Gramcrackers
The bad
Reeves playing 7 yards off of Burress on the goal line - we are hurting at CB
JU JU - he goes down whenever he gets touched - can not run between the tackles
16 carries for 66 yards that just not good enuf
MBIII 11 carries for 65 yards - he looks like he wants it more
Henry what the hell was he doing on that first touchdown pass to Burress - following behind him 5 yards
by Arkcowboys on Sep 9, 2007 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
16 carries for 66 yards that just not good enuf
thats 4.1 yard per carry, thats good enough!!
by Deke on Sep 9, 2007 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All the talk about using JuJo to his strength
Seems to be nonsense. He's still running in the middle. He had 1 big run, and it was one he bounced to the outside. I think I only saw 1 designed run to the outside.
Barber definately looked like he wanted it more tonight. Although I don't think JuJo was used properly, he just didn't have the bounce in his step that Barber did.
Regardless though, 120+ yards combined. Both fresh, neither wearing out. I like it.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sharing is good.
"Regardless though, 120+ yards combined. Both fresh, neither wearing out. I like it."
You and me both. The Jones OR Barber crowd has taken sides and dug in, though. For some reason it matters to them who the "starter" is.
If Jones PLUS Barber is = Emmitt, I'm a happy, happy guy. As should ALL Cowboys fans be. I'm quite content to let Garrett sort out the details as long as the production is there.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4.1 per is definately good enough.
Ever heard of Emmitt Smith? His career average was 4.2.
6.3 INCHES is the difference between 4.1 and 4.2 ypc.
I can live with a back averaging half a foot less than Emmitt.
BTW, Emmitt averaged half a foot less than Tony D.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only point is that there were situations where
Barbers running style would have been better suited late in the game. I could care less who starts - in fact, I like saving Barber's legs for late in the game. Just use him more when you need some ough, clock eating yards.
by ibleed blue on Sep 10, 2007 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ferguson
Out for the year with a torn bicep, per Sportscenter... Don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet.
by runwabbitrun on Sep 9, 2007 11:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
a major loss
a position we couldn't afford to lose
by Deke on Sep 9, 2007 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ratliff had a good game at NT
The Fergie injury is awful, but Ratliff seems to have a ton of upside. Looks like we'll be bringing one of our training camp back-ups back onto the squad.
by ol hickory on Sep 9, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would you make this claim?
The only problem with Ratliff becoming the starter at nose is the loss of depth on the line as he was backing up two positions.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
unrelated
but I just heard Jan Jansen OL for the skins out for the year with a broken leg.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont know if anyone reported it yet
by Tristan on Sep 9, 2007 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just heard that, too!
They stated it as an aside on ESPN.
by Rob Zuber on Sep 9, 2007 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
on DC.com they say it was an elbow injury
by Burt D on Sep 9, 2007 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm listening
to the post game show. Just confirmed by Jerry Jones Fergy out for the year
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I listened to post game interview and I heard Jerry say they won't know for sure until tomorrow but "the guys on the sideline are usually right".
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Jones says Ferguson out for the year
by Deke on Sep 9, 2007 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man Tears
I am going to cry.
Dang!!!!! The hits just keep coming to this Defense.
by Philosopher on Sep 9, 2007 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
What dumb friggin luck...
Newman's foot and now Fergie is done for the season.
That takes a lot of joy out of this win, still a lot to be happy about offensively.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes very sad
One of the three positions we could not afford to lose someone (and Newman missing in another).
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I should be happy
but if our Defense is going to keep on playing like this it can not bode well for what is to come.
When T-New comes back we still have Henry on the other side who has lost a step, and we just aren't getting good pass rush from our DE's. Something has to change. I would love to see Hatcher and Ratliff at DE.
by Burt D on Sep 9, 2007 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next week
You'll be singing a different tune. The Giants offense is MUCH better than most people give credit. The D will destroy Miamis pathetic Offense next week and Dallas fans will be content again.
If Miami moves the ball at will next week, then is the time to panic.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remi was cut from Atlanta
earlier so we may bring him in to back up Ratliff who replaces Fergi.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two turnovers
led to short fields and 10 points tonight for the Giants. So if we subtract those points the 25 given up is not so bad to a very good offense.
Also Shockey was shut out in the 2nd half. That is good defensive adjustment. I know Burress did plenty of damage but short yardage was more difficult without Shockey.
Finally Reeves seemed to get better as the game progressed. I do believe Aaron Glenn would have been worse.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Romo had a QB rating of 128.5
with 345 yards passing. Eli had 113.1, with 312 yards passing, both with 4 TDs and an INT.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Eli
Manning was impressive. Granted, the defense didn't put up much resistance, but I was surprised at how well Eli was throwing the ball.
by runwabbitrun on Sep 9, 2007 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
QBR is meaningless
Romo threw exactly two bad passes all night, but one of them almost lost the game.
The quick out to a Owens when the DB was pressing at the line was just DUMB. That play call should have been changed at the line.
The INT was dumber. What was he possibly thinking at that point?
Romo did say after the game there was a period where the helmet headset wasn't working so he just called the plays on his own. He didn't elaborate on when this was or which plays they were.
Not to jump on Romo. Statistically he had a GREAT game.
If he limits his mistakes to 2 per game the 'boys are set. That INT couldn't have come at a worse possible time, though. Part of the reason his numbers were as high as they were was that play let the Giants back into the game.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he saw the safety at all
He was trying to squeeze the pass into TO, but Wilson made a good break on the ball.
I agree, the sideline pass was ugly. I hate those things. Usually only get a couple yds if it works and the risk of an INT or fumble by the WR seem to outweigh the benefit.
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2007 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible he didn't see
The safety on that play, but it was brain dead to try and "squeeze" any kind of pass at that point. The lead was decent but tenuous. You don't take that kind of a chance in that situation.
I have no problem with a quick 2yd out to a receiver if the corner is playing back but in that case the corner was playing bump and run. Romo should have recognized that and changed the play at the line. It was the kind of "rookie mistake" that used to frustrate the hell out of Parcells (and me, too).
I love Romo, but sometimes he seems to think he's capable of things nobody is capable of. He's too smart to be Brett Farve, so don't try to be, Tony.
But, hey, if those two mistakes are the worst he does every game, He's gonna be a great one.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 4:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reeves did better than I thought
However Henry did worse, so that is worrisome. And Hamlin was invisible on pass plays.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamlin had 1 PD
Roy was the leading tackler with 8.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some things
never change I guess. But to their defense when your best CB is out that limits alot of the things they wanted to do. Henry was disappointing. He made Plaxico look fast tonight and he really is not.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tnew was definately missed out there
He would've been on Burress most of the night.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is definately a problem
If Newman has to be THE integral part of the D, and he's not likely to be 100% all year, the Phillips 3-4 will never work.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure
How you figure Reeves did well. He was destroyed all night long other than the pick and that only happened because the receiver fell down, not because of him making a play on the ball.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't see him make many bad plays
The quick TD to Burress when he gave him position inside the goalline. The other short TD to Burress, he got turned to the outside but came back and if Roy was a foot closer to play he would've knocked it away.
He had the INT and made a great play to knock down a TD pass to Toomer (I think it was Toomer)
Actually I thought Henry looked worse against Burress.
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2007 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Burress: 8 catches, 144yds, 3 TDs
Toomer: 9 catches, 91 yards
Most of those catches came throwing at Reeves man. They picked on him early and often, and proved for certain he isn't an NFL starting CB. The INT was a joke since he was covering AIR at the time. It was nothing he did, his receiver FELL DOWN as Manning was releasing the ball. I'm pretty sure I could have made THAT pick.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 4:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey at least he made it.
Burress was unstoppable, I think he took advantage of all the DB out there tonight. I hope he goes back to unreliable Plax next week. He is so inconsistant and injury prone.
Man, I gotta go to bed, I'll be draggin tomorrow. Later man
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2007 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this talk about McFadden needs to go away
It's obvious that we're in good hands with our RB, and we are in desparate need of a NT. Anyone who watched the LSU game this weekend saw who needs to be our #1 pick. Dorsey is an absolute animal.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nt & cb
definitely much higher priority than rb or wr. too many people were worried about terry glenn & i've got alot of confidence in crayton, hurd & miles.
by cjr126 on Sep 9, 2007 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
running backs are too fragile to spend a #1 pick and our need is NT and CB or DE. Hatcher, Spears and Canty are not getting it done. To be fair however there was little safety help in the run game from Hamlin because of coverage deficiencies.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding?
For starters you don't draft a NT in the first round. Secondly how can you be happy with the WR depth? Crayton has yet to prove himself as a legit #2. Hurd and Miles haven't proven anything, as yet. Owens and Glenn are OLD for receivers and Glenns career might be over. One great vet starter at the position is fantasic. Relying entirely on two vets is risky, at best.
If the Hurd TD impressed you look at it again. That was entirely a play made by #81. Everyone in the stadium and on the field thought that ball was being thrown to Owens who slanted in front of Hurd on the play. The entire D reacted to pursue T.O. while Hurd went by the pursuit. I've never seen a better misdirection pass play in my life (credit Jason Garrett who REALLY impressed tonight). Owens was more responsible for that TD than either Hurd or Romo was.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't draft NT in the first round?
There are 10 teams who wish they drafted Warren Sapp instead of the players they chose. I'll give the Oilers/Titans McNair, he was a pretty good QB for a long time with them. But how about these picks.
- Ki-Jana Carter - Cincy(oh look at that another once every decade running back)
- Tony Boselli - Jags
- McNair - Oilers
- Michael Westbrook - Skins
- Kerry Collins - Panthers
- Kevin Carter - Rams
- Mike Mamula - Eagles
- Joey Galloway - Seahawks
- Kyle Brady - J.E.T.S.
- J.J. Stokes - 49ers
- Derrick Alexander - Vikings
- Sapp - Bucs
Tell me those 10 teams aren't kicking themselves in the ass.
Oh and ask the Vikings and Jags and Bears how they are doing after drafting stud DT in the first round. Tommy Harris-stud. Kevin Williams-stud. Stroud AND Henderson in Jacksonville, WHOA.
Don't give me you don't draft NT in the first round. You're right, you don't draft decent NT in the first round. You draft superstar NT in the first round.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
News Flash
Warren Sapp was drafted as a DT for a 4-3 scheme, NOT a NT in a 3-4. We need a NT, not a 300 lb DT for a 4-3 alignment. Go back and look in the history of the draft to see if there were any top 5 NT's drafted. I bet you won't find too many, if any and there won't be anyone worthy of a top five selection next year either.
What we need for this defense we can get in FA or as a late first or second round pick.
I though DT Alan Branch, even though he was a 4-3 DT in college was big enough to transition to a 3-4 NT. He is 6'5 (Probably too tall) 330 lbs, but versatile enough to play DE in a 3-4. He went in the second round.
Face the facts man. We are NOT drafting a NT with a top five pick. It will be a impact player, and most likely on offense where most of the impact players are drafted i.e.., QB,WR,RB.
By the way..
Marcus Stroud 6'6 306 lbs a DT 13th pick Round 1.
John Henderson 6'7 325 lbs a DT 9th pick Round 1
Kevin Williams 6-5 311 lbs DT 9th pick round one (4-3 defense)
And the best 3-4 NT in the game.....
Jamal Williams NT (San Diego)
6'3
348 lbs.
A perfect 3-4 NT.
Guess what....
Taken in the 1998 supplemetal draft!!!!!!!!!!!
Fact is none of these DT's were drafted in the top five and most were drafted as a 4-3 DT.
The best NT in the game wasn't even drafted
You stand corrected...
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well make sure you change it up to support
Your position. First it was 1st round, now it's top 5.
Our draft trend in the last 10 years doesn't support your idea it will be an impact offensive player.
Like I said, David LaFleur was our last offensive #1.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
might change since we will probably have the #1 pick.
What I've been saying all along is that we won't be taking a defensive player with the #1 overall pick. I also said I think we could take a NT or CB with the second first rounder depending where we finish. What we could do is trade OUR first round pick for an additional second rounder and maybe a fourth. We possibly could get a CB,NT,WR with those picks or just pick the best CB or NT with it and don't do a thing. Jerry loves trading down so this wouldn't surprise me.
We haven't had too many times when we picked in the top ten. That's why I think it would be an impact player like RB or WR, but my money is on Mcfadden just because of the JJ situation and Jerry's infatuation with Arkansas.
When was the last time we had the #1 pick?
1989
Troy Aikman
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1991 NFL Draft
Defensive Tackle Russell Maryland
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not with the #1 overall
pick. Mcfadden will be the top college player in the draft. Dorsey may be good, but not derserving of the top pick. C'mon, we don't want to turn into the Texans here...you don't take a DT or NT with the #1 overall pick. NT could be a later round pick or a FA sign.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea an average NT
Dorsey is going to be special. If we get the #1 overall, trade down a few spots and draft Dorsey. Then we can have 3 #1's. Draft Dorsey, a CB, and then BPA.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just
not going to happen. Especially, considering all the money they have in the line already. Maybe 2nd round if anything. RB, CB will be the first two considerations. All we need is a good wide bodied 3-4 NT, not a dominating pass rushing DT for this defense. How many first rounder's you think we can afford to pump on this line?
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You talk about money in the DL
Then talk about drafting a CB. We have big money in 3 of the 4 DB spots already.
How many first rounders you think we can afford to pump into this secondary?
Me personally, I dont' care how much money/first rounders it takes. Just fix it. Just wanted to point out your hypocrisy.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we
have 2 first round CB's. Newman and Williams.
Spencer, Carpenter, Ware, Spears all first round selections on the DL.
You think Jerry has an umlimted cap space?
Keep in mind.
Ware will probably have to be extended.
Newman's possibly getting an extension.
MB3 getting an extension.
Romo's new deal.
All factors in.
You can't have a steak on every plate.
Be realistic. There is only so much money you can pump at one position.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Newsflash
Ware, Carp, and Spencer are linebackers.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still
the front seven right?
still all on defense right?
you stand corrected....
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
Nope sorry I'm not corrected at all. There is 1 first rounder on the DL, and 1 big free agent (Fergy). We can afford to put more money there, we need to.
Bottom line. The cap went up drastically this year. It will the next few years (from the new TV contract).
I don't care how much of Jerry's monopoly money, or how many first round picks it takes. Fix the defense.
Watch and see how well the 3-4 works without a dominant NT.
And see how much the defense improves if you pour 1st round money into a RB.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I
said. Well see in April who is right. Jerry is not going to blow top dollar on a NT, especially when you can get a good one later in the first or second round.
I know you don't want to hear it, but if Jerry has the #1 pick it will be Mcfadden, not another defensive player.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right, we'll see
Just remember. Our last 1st round offensive pick was David LaFleur. I sense a trend.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lafleur
Was drafted TEN years ago (1997). Exactly what kind of "trend" do you sense?
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for proving my point
LaFleur was drafted 10 years ago, and that was our last offensive 1st round pick.
That my friend is a trend of drafting defense if I've ever seen one.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to use TWO
High, first round draft picks on an NT and a CB? For starters a NT in College and a NT in a Phillip 34 are two entirely different animals.
And BPA is the dumbest draft strategy ever contrived. The Media touts it all the time but it's a ridiculous strategy. For starters, nobody AGREES on who the BPA is in a particular draft slot. Secondly, what good does it do to take a player that is a position of strength on your team already ahead of a player that is a position of weakness simply because he's deemed the BPA?
No team in NFL history has ever been so set at every position so well that they could simply draft BPA without regard to position.
With a top 5 pick you HAVE to take an offensive skill position player, IMO. The only exception is a stud CB or DE who is so head and shoulders above everyone else in the draft it's a no brainer.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
You nailed it. I don't want us to be in the same category as the Texans taking Mario Williams. That was just a pathetic choice not to take Reggie Bush.
You don't take a NT with a high draft pick. That would be idiotic.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, like he said
"What good does it do to take a player that is a position of strength on yoru team already ahead ofa player that is a position of weakness"
That would be exactly what we are doing if we draft McFadden. Choosing a position of strength over positions of weakness.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey is a DT and Heisman candidate
That like never happens
by Burt D on Sep 9, 2007 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a need draft for us
This guy is going to be absolutely amazing.
How would you like to have Warren Sapp at 23 again, manning the middle of our defense for years?
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it's not happening now, either
He is not a Heisman candidate. Quite buying the homer hype.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 4:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
jerry jones, wade phillips & bob ireland
who gets most of the blame here for not addressing extremely obvious glaring needs as our depth at cornerback & nose tackle. even when we get newman back all teams are going to do is pick apart anthony henry. i would rather see jacque reeves starting opposite terrance newman when he returns. i am absolutely terrified about what tom brady & randy moss (who owns us anyway)will do when we face them.
by cjr126 on Sep 9, 2007 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kinda makes
you think about that 3rd round pick now doesn't it.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure what CB or NT
taken in the 3rd round this year would have been playing out there tonight?
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a break
"who gets most of the blame here for not addressing extremely obvious glaring needs as our depth at cornerback & nose tackle."
Where, exactly, were they to find these mysterious players to fill these "needs"?
- There was no depth problem at CB until Newman got hurt.
- There was no depth problem at NT until tonight.
Did you want the team to carry 8 corners and 5 nose tackles, or something? Did you expect to have Fred Smoot as a backup CB, or something?
FACT is there aren't enough good NT and CBs to go around. Your backups aren't going to be world beaters.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our Defense Is Awful
I'm thrilled with how easily we were able to slice up a depleted Giants defense, but I'm very worried about our defense. Our pass rush was non-existant, Spears and Canty are still statues. The play of safeties was borderline atrocious. And the tackling...yikes. I can almost excuse the lack of coverage and pass rush, but how many missed tackles did we have tonight?
Wade was hired because he is a defensive mastermind, and we gave up 35 points at home. That's outrageous.
by kindablue on Sep 9, 2007 11:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Spears and Canty have no excuses left.
Spears might as well be moved to DT now because Hatcher will claim his spot. Canty made 2 great tackles (one was against the Gints), but Spears was also invisible. And they still got gashed by the backup RB, that was embarrassing.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
made 2 great tackles (one was against the Gints),
Almost spit out my pepsi when I read this one...
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
better
than what Spears did. He was clearly the worst on the D-line tonight.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 9, 2007 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had 1 play
Where he was anywhere within sniffing distance of the QB, and it was on Ratliff's sack.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ratliff outplayed both again
I'm still hopeful about Canty, but Spears is off the radar screen.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
From what I saw, most of the gaping holes in our run defense were against Spencer. But would Spears even be on the roster, much less occupying a starting spot, if he weren't a high draft pick? Under Jimmy Johnson, there were no such free passes.
by kindablue on Sep 9, 2007 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT GAPING HOLES????
Ward had the 44 yard run. Other than that the Giants ran the ball 21 times for 80 yards! (Avg of 3.8) With a long carry of 7! Where were these "gaping holes"?
You people talk like they just ran wild all night long. The ONE thing the Dallas D did WELL was contain the run.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 4:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Average, Yes
But I'm not talking about the whole run defense. I'm talking about those plays where they ran right at Spencer.
by kindablue on Sep 10, 2007 7:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Johnson?
"Under Jimmy Johnson, there were no such free passes."
Nonsense. And I'm completely tired of Johnson getting credit for everything positive in the early 90's. Jimmy was a HORRIBLE judge of talent. He lucked into what he got.
He DIDN'T want Aikman.
He DIDN'T want Emmitt.
Jimmy was so certain that Troy was going to be a bust he INSISTED that Jerry WASTE the following years first round draft pick (ended up being the #1 over all) to take HIS boy Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft.
If it weren't for the sheer number of high draft picks the 'Boys had in those years due to being horrible and the incredible Hershal Walker trade, Johnson would have been a complete failure...as he WAS in Miami.
by FunCowboysFan on Sep 10, 2007 5:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do You Know What a Straw Man Argument Is?
It's where you attack a point different than the one being made; in simple terms, you misrepresent the person's argument. Whether or not you think Jimmy Johnson was a good judge of talent is entirely your opinion--one which is completely unsupported, I believe, but you're entitled to it, as ridiculous as it may be.
What I said was, under Jimmy Johnson, players were not given free passes because of their draft status. In Spears' case, he obviously is, because the guy hasn't and obviously isn't going to produce. Try paying attention to what the other person says next time before you start hyperventilating.
by kindablue on Sep 10, 2007 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pleased that Witten
so thoroughly outplayed Shockey tonight. I do not like Shockey's bragging.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Fergie is on IR, so we don't have to cut
anybody. Unless they need another CB.
by APerfectStar on Sep 9, 2007 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Where did you hear that? I thought he was with the Falcons now?
by Philosopher on Sep 9, 2007 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
Roy lost weight, he looks bigger than he was last year.
by coolaid on Sep 9, 2007 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I told my wife
That I think I have a higher vertical than Roy. On that TD in the back of the endzone to Plexiglass, I think he may have gotten 4 inches off the ground.
by mhuff13 on Sep 9, 2007 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave you have to be proud
that we generated over 600 posts tonight. Nice milestone.
by lee3022 on Sep 9, 2007 11:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
The amount of activity today was awesome. You guys rock.
by Dave Halprin on Sep 10, 2007 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the positive side
Was anyone else impressed with Garrett's play calling? He had a healthy balance of run and pass, and once he found the soft spot in the deep middle of the Giants zone, he exploited it relentlessly. It always seemed the offense under Parcells was predictable and almost loathe to exploit the weakness of the opposing defense. Garrett showed good poise and play mixing tonight. I'm encouraged.
by kindablue on Sep 10, 2007 12:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great balance
30 rushes, 25 passing plays (1 sack).
And he was relentless. Went for the jugular isntead of pounding it on the defense on the ground.
I just hope he realizes, against some teams it will be better to pound it out on the ground.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he called a really good game
Plus they actually made adjustments, got TO involved and that call on the pass to Hurd was awesome.
by APerfectStar on Sep 10, 2007 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was the best part
Using essentially the same weapons as we had last year (minus Terry Glenn) Coach Garrett produced a masterpiece. Despite the continuing argument about running backs on the blog I see the balance of yards and carries just about perfect as well. The only disappointment was Hoyte's missed opportunity (well ok - the INT was also disappointing).
by lee3022 on Sep 10, 2007 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad fans aren't coaches
Even though Barber looked better, he still split the carries up. That keeps them both fresh.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but you noticed that Barber was in there alot more in the second half. Barber gives them a lift JJ doesn't. Even John Madden said the same.
by Cowboys81 on Sep 10, 2007 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was with you until...
You referenced John Madden. He's 2 rocks from falling off the rocker.
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it won't last
But as of now both JuJo and Barber have more yards than Tomlinson, LJ, and Steven Jackson.
At least it's nice for 1 week. =)
by mhuff13 on Sep 10, 2007 12:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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