Jacques Reeves Signs With The Texans
by DaveTroll on Mar 1, 2008 3:06 PM CST
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Being reported by Houston Chronicle that Jacques Reeves has left the Dallas Cowboys for the Houston Texans. Are we shopping a free agent, or we going strictly with the draft?
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I wonder how much he received
I think we're taking McKelvin or DRC in the first.
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
And given the way FA CBs are getting paid ($6m/year for Florence?), this should be upgraded to "by any means necessary".
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We will
probably have Alan Ball or Nate Jones as our third CB next season....... :).
Seriously, if we don't sign a FA CB it's going to happen because Wade is not going to throw a rookie CB in this defense. If it was a top 10 pick, maybe but not where we will be drafting.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, there are some good corners
in this draft, I could see somebody like DRC playing in our nickel very easily, he's much better than Ball or Jones.
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 5:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see any rookie
coming in here the first year doing much of anything. CB is a very hard position to learn coming in as a rookie.
You don't see too many CB's drafted above the 20th pick starting or making an impact barring injury.
We need a veteran CB on this team big time.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Ross did a pretty good job
for the champs, and DRC is better than him.
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Darelle Revis looked good for the Jets
by Dave Halprin on Mar 1, 2008 5:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They all contributed significant minutes...
1st rounders...Revis, Hall and Ross all made significant contributions to their respective defenses last year.
You can even go into the 2nd round and say the same thing about Chris Houston (Atlanta) and Eric Wright (Cleveland).
3rd round pick, Marcus McCauley (Vikings), also spent a lot of time on the field (including couple of starts) last season.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Any CB we pick up in the first
Will at least be the 3rd CB. There is no doubt. If not, then the scouts didn't do their jobs,
The best outcome would be to get a guy that can start off as the 3rd CB and return punts, then towards the end of the season push Henry for playing time.
by APerfectStar on Mar 1, 2008 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.....
...and we have to expect some growing pains, knowing that the experience during the regular season will pay dividends as the rookie matures and we get closer to prime time (playoffs).
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis was also
selected at the 14th spot and was projected to be the starter from the start. The Jets didn't move up 11 spots for him not to be. If you remember, their RCB position was a mess and rotated four differnt players the previous season. The Jets were desperate for a starting CB.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He basically
came in on the nickel and played the slot. It wasn't until later in the season when he saw some extended playing time. There secondary was a mess so they needed to play him sooner than what we would've done. I loved Ross coming out. If he was in this years draft class he would've been the top CB in the draft. Not even close.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worked for the Giants
He was far from spectacular, but Aaron Ross played a lot for them last year and did a decent job. I think we could get by with a contribution like that. CB does take time, but I think we could bring someone along with enough athleticism to make up for some mistakes along the way. By the time the playoffs roll around, they'd be integrated.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 5:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
?????...who cares where he gets drafted...
top 10 , top 20, top 30....any first rounder in this draft can and will start...count on it.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
to all thje doubters...
I was right on the money with Florence : 6 million.......so there you go...was never in our plans.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No chance at Mckelvin Terry
He will be a top 10-12 pick.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 5:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe, but you never know
there are always guys who fall in every draft
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
FA signings may result in Top CB falling in Draft
If the teams drafting ahead of the Boys get their CB need filled via Free Agency, then the Boys may get lucky and have their choice of several good CB's in the Draft.
by DeRat on Mar 1, 2008 5:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point Derat
Teams that pay heavily for a CB in this first wave of free agency will be hard pressed to draft a cb in the top 15 and have that much $$ committed to one position. Maybe the boys should draft two DRC and Talib in the first and then pick up a rb in the second.
by Billito on Mar 1, 2008 5:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A very good idea, potentially
With Newman's uncertain future and Henry's age, this would actually be a pretty wise thing to do, especially if we can address RB needs some other way.
As for FA supplanting any draft needs at CB, I wouldn't expect Philly or JAX to draft one, but I'm not sure about other teams. If Houston thinks they don't need to draft DRC now that they've signed Reeves, more power to them :)
We can't stay at #22 if we expect to get DRC, McKelvin, or Jenkins, I predict.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 6:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Not that it means anything, but Banks' latest mock had McKelvin, DRC, Talib, and Jenkins going before #22.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If that plays out then Trade Down
I can see a scenario where the top 3 RBs and top 4 CBs are gone before #22.
If thats the case, the only thing that makes sence is to trade down. The value of the "Second Tier" of CBs is top of Round 2.
And I don't like any of the WR's for a first round pick.
by DeRat on Mar 1, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...we should go for 2 CB's...but....
I still think trading for Atlant's #3 and DeAngelo Hall...is the best move we can do.....and no...not to draft DMac....
Trade down from #3 to picks #5 through #12....and take DRC or McKelvin.
One can only hope....
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 6:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NO..it won't DeRat...and that sux....
THE WORST thing that could have happened to us....JUST did....with Samuels going to Philly, and Florence going to Jax totally put a damper to my week....If they went to NO, and Detroit, or Arizona, or Baltimore it would of helped out alot more.
The teams that are most definately going to entertain the thought of drafting a CB were not Jax and Philly....they were New England, Baltimore, Buffalo, Detroit, New Orleans, Houston, Arizona, Tampa, and then possibly Philly & Washington, before us at #22.
The last thing we could have had happened...happened..It's still early, but the top 3 free agent CB's are off the board...
On a good note...the Detroit trade of Rodgers, which brought a starting CB in return is hopeful, but in no way would that take them out of the CB market. The signing of Reeves in Houston is another plus, and hopefully that puts them out of it...unclear at this point though...but one would think it does.
I can only hope that Baltimore goes QB, which I doubt, that Detroit, Arizona, or Houston go RB...to give a good chance at the top CB's.
Unless we draft up into the 11-16 range...we might miss out on the big three (McKelvin, DRC, and Jenkins)
I hope Lito Sheppard is traded to one of those need teams.....or better yet...us...lol
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 6:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have this feeling that...
The Pats will take DRC at #7, as the first CB overall in the draft. All the analysts will be somewhat surprised at first, but then of course they will go on to praise Belichik & Pioli, calling them geniouses because they saw DRC as a top 10 pick and they were able to look past the small school tag and get the best player available (all that BS we hear every year from the ESPN guys).
I think we need to quit kidding ourselves that DRC is going to be there at #22 or #28. He's top 20 (IMO). And, as you (Boyz) have pointed out, many of the "CB Needy" teams have not filled their void via free agency.
This is kind of a weird draft because about the first 5 picks or so, there's a variety of opinions on the next ten top players. Of course some players are starting to move into that range (Gholston), but I really think that DRC, McKelvin and Jenkins are all gone in the top 20. What I hate about that is that I think Talib is a second round talent and I'm concered that he's going to be the best CB on the Cowboys board at their #1 need position.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 7:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this is possible...
This is why I think we need to be very aggressive in trading up in the first round. Some teams may refuse to move, but you'd think Ayodele and a 3rd rounder (or something like that, even picks from next year) might convince some team to slide down to 22.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly Fargo...i couldn't say it better....
I agree with that whole scenario....I do not want any CB in the first unless it's DRC or McKelvin...I rate all the rest below #22...even Jenkins & Talib.
1a) RB...
1b) Trade to Atlanta,(they'll take QB Flacco) for either both their 2nd rounders (37,49) or DeAngelo Hall.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 7:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DeAngelo Hall....
How does that play out with T-New opting out of the final year of his contract after next season.
DeAngelo want's an extention with the trade.
How do we fit two CB's commanding $10/year into our long-term plans?
I don't think trading for Hall is an option because of this scenario. We have to find a way to mix the old (proven) high priced veteran with the young (unproven) talented and cost effective player.
I'm all for using the two #1's to get a blue chipper CB.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 7:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an idea
This scenario probably depends on Ryan not being taken before #7:
Trade our 2 firsts and 4th (total value 1484 points) to NE for the #7 pick (1500 points), then turn around and trade the #7 to Chicago for the #14 pick and Chicago's 2nd rounder (total value 1540 points). Take the best CB available at #14. This works in the draft value chart, more or less.
We'd lose 2 first round picks and a 4th, and gain a higher 1st round pick and a mid-2nd rounder. I'm not sure which teams would be willing to give up a 1st and a 2nd to jump up, but this would give Chicago the chance to jump Baltimore and take Ryan. Steep price, but would let us get our man. Pretty steep, but we need to secure our guy at this point. Trading down is great and all, but our roster is stocked, and we need to add guys who can contribute right away.
This site has some info on rookie contracts from last year:
http://www.godlovesthegators.com/200...
Revis, taken at #14, got a lot more money (6 years, $36 million) than Hall at #18 (5 years $13 mil) or Ross at #20 (5 years, $13.5 mil). Either the Jets are horrible negotiators, or being the first CB taken means you get paid. If that's the case, then thankfully we would probably not take the first CB with the #14 pick.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Difference in structure...
Revis contract is not as straight-forward as the others. Player can actually void after 4 years, but the Jets can buy the last two back for $14MM.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 8:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I was really confused
That makes more sense. If there were ever any doubt that it's more financially viable to build through the draft than FA, let those doubts be erased.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well...if you really think Newman is worth it....
I'm not sure i'd extend Newman at all... a 32 year old CB with a history of leg ailments certainly isn't someone I want to lock up for 10mil/per....
Hall is worth 10mil/per....the market has demanded as much....do I think we can maybe get him cheaper..say 9 mil..yeah...either way....he isn't demanding an extention at all..he is signed through the '09 season at 4 mil/per....he's said as much....of course I wouldn't trade for him unless he did extend...
I would put the franchise tag on Newman next year and let him play out the '09 season.
This way we have Hall and Newman for 2 seasons at least before a decision needs to be made.
We draft a top CB this year (McKelvin or DRC)...then in 2010....we got two starters under the age of 26....sure sounds better than an unknown CB, and a 34 year old Newman in 2010..
that's where I stand on that.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Newman's not 32
He'll be 30 next season. If he wants a 3 year deal at 10 per at that age, I give it to him. How many shutdown corners are there in this league? When you've got one, you keep him.
by BudLight on Mar 1, 2008 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be 32 to begin the 2010 season.
and not in position to demand top tier 10 million plus/per...my opinion.....otherwise your saying we should probably sign Shaun Springs for 10 million, if he becaomes available.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Last I checked
Newman's under our control for one more season under his current deal. We're not talking 2010, he'd have the hypothetical new deal a year from now. Do I pay 9 million a year for 31-33 year old Terrence Newman? I'd have to think about it, but if he adds to his exceptional track record with another stellar season, I bite.
by BudLight on Mar 1, 2008 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
like I was saying....after a frachised tag in '09
we can lock up Newman "after" the '09 season, with him being 32 going into the 2010 season, and unable to command top CB dollars.....
Let's see him get through 16 games this year before any hasty thoughts on an extention.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 9:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a tough one...
...I don't disagree with anything that you said.
Only issue would be giving up something up to get Hall, when we've already got Newman (and we should be able to extend his contract). We all knew that Newman was "a little" older when we drafted him (24). Hard to believe that he's going to be 30 years old when he opts out of his rookie contract.
Hall is a great player. He talks too much, and he can be a punk, but he's a top 5 corner in the league (and young).
Just not Jerry's style though. He's a businessman, but he just isn't as "cut-throat" as other organizations when it comes to making tough personnel decisions. I think that plays into him being able acquire FA's and also retain vets under market value, but I think sometimes there are also instances when he probably should be a little more schrewd in his decision-making.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terms
According to the article Grizz linked, 5 years, $20 million. Not sure what the details are on guaranteed money, etc. Good luck, Jacques.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 5:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wow, guess somebody thinks he's good
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reeves is not
as bad as people think. He is a good 3rd CB.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 1, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I agree, always thought he was better
than what most fans perceived him to be. Nate Jones is the guy who totally sucked.
by Terry on Mar 1, 2008 5:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
We know a little better, but best of luck to him anyway.
Silly Texans, they've got a hankering for our 3rd corners. First A. Glenn, now Reeves.
by goodjobtimmyheresabluestar on Mar 1, 2008 5:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
reeves was awful...
and I for 1 am sooooo glad he's gone!
Think about it...our biggest achilles heel last year was our pass defense....Reeves was targeted by every team we played and picked on religiously.....
And he gets a $20 mil. dollar deal?????
Good luck with that texans...LOL
by TrueBlue24 on Mar 1, 2008 8:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
wierd
i thought he would do better in a tampa 2 kind of place. i hope he got a lot of $.
by 325424 on Mar 1, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point, however..
he was also kind of weak in run support...so wouldn't be the prototype for a Tampa 2.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agree Fargo...
he's more of a man cover guy....whenever he can stay with his man...and not nine yards off him....
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From a 7th Round Pick....
....to a multi-millionaire. You have to be happy for him. Only in America.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ne1 kno how much hes getting from them?
by eMBe3 on Mar 1, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
5 years at $20 million
according to the link. This really is the silly season. He was alright but that kind of payday is ridiculous
by Billito on Mar 1, 2008 5:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Texans!
Good luck Jaques, you friggin tease.
by APerfectStar on Mar 1, 2008 4:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I think we need to take 2 CBs on the first day (even if that means trading up in the 2nd round), we can't afford good coverage via FA.
by ChrisRichey on Mar 1, 2008 6:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
For real
Congratulations, Jacques Reeves; you hit the jackpot. I'd be surprised if Jerry offered him half this much.
Is it just me, or are teams being absolutely silly with their spending?
by BudLight on Mar 1, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It's not you
Some of these teams are really overvaluing the crop of FA's.
Oakland's deal with Tommy Kelly is a prime example, and now I just read Berrian's outrageous new deal with the Vikings: 6 yrs $42 mil, with $16 mil in guaranteed money. LOL
by APerfectStar on Mar 1, 2008 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Vikings and Raiders...
Contracts to safeties Mad Williams and Gabril Wilson is going to make retaining Ken Hamlin long-term extremely difficult. Both contracts averaged around $6MM a year for the first 3-years when the franchise tag for Hamlin (average of top 5 at the time) was $4.3MM.
Hamlin played at a Pro Bowl level in 2007, and both these chumps are average at best.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 1, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another prime example
It's a good thing we tagged Hamlin.
by APerfectStar on Mar 1, 2008 9:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
which is why Hamlin will be here for one year.
Unless we pull off a Flo like deal, with an average of 7 mil/per......
cuz his salary demands after this season will be for 8 mil/per....and he'll get it.....elsewhere.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 10:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting hypothetical
For some inexplicable reason, a lot of the latest mocks have Kenny Phillips sliding very far; in some situations, past the Cowboys. If he's there t 22, do you take him?
Personally, unless we can grab one of the top 4 cornerbacks (DRC, Talib, Jenkins, McK), Stewart or Mendenhall, or Limas Sweed- I take Phillips. Dude's going to be an all-pro safety and can play at either safety slot.
by BudLight on Mar 1, 2008 10:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i've been thinkin' about him....
Miami just had their pro day too, but he bypassed all the drills...not a good sign.cuz he was alot slower in the 40 than most thought he would be...he did do position drills though...He didn't do well enough at the combine to warrant the 22nd pick...he's there at 28....maybe...he had a down year, and i can't quite see him at SS....he's athletic, and it's his coverage skills people covet.. and more suited to be FS...i do see him sliding though...Denver just picked up a safety in FA...and that's where i had him going...we should address the SS spot in the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th....Jamar Adams or my favorite Josh Barrett..or later in round 5-6 with Texas native SS Calib Cambell from Army....who i really like, if we go safety late in the draft...maybe with that 6th rounder from Miami.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If we're going with mid-round safeties
How about Marcus Griffin? I know his speed is lacking, but Texas Defensive Backs have an incredible success rate, and Griffin himself doesn't lack for pedigree. At worst, he'll be a wasted fourth or fifth rounder. At best, a solid contributor at strong safety.
by BudLight on Mar 1, 2008 11:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Domonique Barber
I've been watching this kid. I think he'll be there in the 5th or 6th. Great value, and MB3's little bro.
He'll be a special teams ace from the get-go and he will eventually compete with Pat Watkins for the starting FS spot if/when Hamlins leaves via FA. He's very similar to Hamilin in that he's an extremely good tackler, plays tough, and he's got good (not great) range.
It also gives us leverage while signing MB3 to a long-term deal. He'll want to stay in Dallas to play with his little bro and hypothetically we could get a discount.
I hate the thought of having to again address the safety position. We keep rummaging through FS's, when the issue is on the other side (Roy).
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 7:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barber....interesting viewpoint...
once again...another very slow time at 40 worries me....selecting him to keep MBIII around...hmm...may work....but do you want him coming in, or taking over for Roy Williams ?.......i don't.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 8:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Solid 6th Rounder.
I think he would an exceptional backup safety that can play both positions (probably beter suited for SS though) and be a great special teams player. Not bad for a 6th round pick. Of course these players are a dime a dozen (Abram Elam). I like Griffin also if he drops to the 5th/6th round.
I think we are married to Roy for at least two more seasons because of his contract (unfortunate).
I love Hamlin, but I think we also have to consider the fact that the Cowboys made him a Pro Bowl FS. Hamlin was a solid, but not spectacular player even before the nightclub beating. I think we can replace the player, but he became more than a player last year. Hamlin became a field leader for our defense. I don't want to lose that because none of the other young players seem to have that quality. Sure, Zach will bring some of that, but he's not going to be out there for every snap like Hamlin was and who knows where Thomas will be after 2008.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 8:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamlin to SS
Agree 100 % of your assessment of Hamlin.
Regarding Roy.
I think we are married to Roy for at least two more seasons because of his contract (unfortunate).
I did a detailed breakdown of Roy’s contract. Cutting him now and spreading the bonus acceleration over two years results in HUGH CAP SAVINGS (2008, 3.72 mil; 2009, 2.81 mil). The only reason not to cut Roy is the question of who moves to starting SS.
Roy contract details:
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/story...
If Roy were cut, I think Hamlin is moved to SS. If the Boys keep Roy this year, I think Hamlin is his backup and takes his spot if Roy is injured. So there really isn’t a big need to draft a SS, unless you’re looking for special teams help.
No one seems to mention Courtney Brown when talking FS options. This guy’s athleticism is off the charts. His small school background and shift from CB to FS limited his contribution last year to special teams. But late in the year I noticed the Boys started inserting him into games in Dime situations. He may develop into starting FS material this year or next.
by DeRat on Mar 2, 2008 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Jerry Have the Balls?
to cut Roy? Yeah, we'll save some cap space, but there's still the "dead money" and Hamlin future to think about.
I'm pretty sure that Jerry is going to sit it out this season and hope that Dave Campo can reincarnate Roy. If he doesn't have the ball to cut him, I just hope that Jerry, Wade & Campo don't feel sorry for him all season and put him on the field when he's struggling.
It's amazing how a player goes from being one of the most loved Cowboys (including myself) to being a huge liability that (even though he's at a prime age) probably needs a fresh start.
Yeah, Courtney was a special athlete at I-AA Cal-Poly. I'm not sold that he's tough enough to play safety, but he certainly has the range. The Cowboys obviously saw something in him to keep him on the 53. I would have liked to have seen more from him on special teams when Keith Davis went down with an injury. With that said, safety is still a position that I think we should consider on Day #2....5th or 6th round. There's always considerable talent late at safety and it gives us additional options at a position that is unsettled for '09 and beyond.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good points boys....
If Roy were cut, I think Hamlin is moved to SS. If the Boys keep Roy this year, I think Hamlin is his backup and takes his spot if Roy is injured. So there really isn’t a big need to draft a SS, unless you’re looking for special teams help.- DeRat
I agree...If Roy is kept here through the season...which I fully expect, Hamlin will be his back up at SS. But it's also a prime time to bring in a rookie to groom, and get familiarized to the position while both are still here to learn behind, and provide special teams help...Either way...there must be a back up SS for the '09 season, and i'd sure hope we got someone that has a year to learn the system. If Roy was to be injured this year and Hamlin had to take over at SS, that would sure expose our inexperienced FS' Watkins and Brown.
No one seems to mention Courtney Brown when talking FS options. This guy’s athleticism is off the charts. His small school background and shift from CB to FS limited his contribution last year to special teams - DeRat
I'm also a big Courtney Brown fan, and hope he's primed to make a move up the depth charts. I see him out performing Watkins in coverage, he's more fluid, faster, and with his athletic CB background..He was a shut down corner in college, has the size to play safety, and would be my bet to back up Hamlin this year, and see some time in the dime. I do like Watkins though, we'll have to see who's stepped it up this off season. I could see SS- Hamlin and FS- Brown as our starters in '09.
But I still believe we NEED to take a SS this year to provide SS depth...for we have NONE right now.
And I must point out...Hamlin very well may not be here NEXT year...Until he is signed long term, You can not discount the fact we have NO back up SS on our roster...Josh Barrett (2nd-4th) & Calib Cambell(6th) being my personal favorites.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Point Fargo
I think the hope is that Campo can save Roy. If Roy doesn't turn in a REAL pro bowl-type season, I wouldn't expect him to be back. But he might be the kind of guy we could cut and then re-sign for (much) less.
by grapejoos on Mar 2, 2008 9:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hamlin at SS and Watkins at FS
appears to be the plan
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dallas was very high on Griffin...at combine....
He really really disappointed in the 40.....too slow for my liking...hopefully has a better pro day....but he for sure dropped out of top 3rd round consideration..i'd prefer we go with faster, better , more talented SS in rounds 2-4..........it really is more of a need than people may think...
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 8:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if they're overvaluing them per se
I think they just know that with this shallow a FA pool, with this many teams with so much cap space (and minimum salary requirements), the numbers shoot up dramatically. It's a bizarre consequence of the bigger cap...teams can re-sign their own players more easily, so fewer good players are available, yet the teams looking to buy have more to spend... There has truly never been a better time to be a free agent.
by grapejoos on Mar 1, 2008 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's great for mediocre FA's
But horrible if you are a team with a small amount of cap room in need of one of the overvalued positions.
One funny effect of the Berrian signing, is the effect on Moss and the Pats.
Definitely a shallow FA pool. Team's are getting better at securing their own players.
by APerfectStar on Mar 1, 2008 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good point Tom.....
I do not see Moss going back to NE....unfortunately....he's out of Dallas's range as well...cuz he is the one guy i'd pay for in FA.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 1, 2008 10:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Teams with CB priority
Ravens-McAllister and Rolle both are aging
Bills-but they need WR or TE more
Lions-probably top priority
Chiefs-Law gone, Surtain old
Pats-Samuel depated
Saints-David didn't exactly work out
Giants-Madison and McQuarters are nearing their ends
Bucs-Barber aint getting any younger
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