Falcons land Michael Turner
by CowboyBawler4 on Mar 2, 2008 3:00 PM CST
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I know there was some speculation about us maybe going after this guy. After all, he was said to be the best FA RB this year. Anyway, he's off the market now. Tatum Bell is still an option, and the the draft is deep at RB so maybe it was all for the best.
Michael Turner, who has been the Chargers' insurance policy for LaDainian Tomlinson, agreed to a six-year, $34.5 million contract with the Falcons, with $15 million guaranteed, a source told ESPN.com's Michael Smith.
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that contract sets the market value for MB3
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to the punch
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's still important to Dallas
Now there is a reference point to look at when re-signing MB3. That's a hefty looking contract, too.
Yikes!
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 3:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YEp
rather put that cost on a Franchise back.
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good
one more RB that we won't have people around here talking about. He'll be exposed in Atl. But, good for us, they won't draft Dmac..
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they weren't going to draft him anyway
bank on them drafting Ryan.
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami
will draft Ryan, even though he sucks.
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no, Parcells loves Chris Long
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He does?
Link?
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You don't need a Link to figure that
one out. It all over the radio. Parcells is not about drafting rookie quarterbacks the reason they signed Mcgown.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Consider youself Sucked!!
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you like that term
but it's old. Get with the news of the day, not two weeks ago. Miami is NOT drafting Ryan, bank on it. Your sucked if you think that.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree Cowboy....
with the signing of McGown, there is no chance the Miami Dophins are drafting Ryan....
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Long is also
a 3-4 guy which is a must for Miami.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if you'll like this one
This article talks about how Long is a Parcells guy. It doesn't really offer any textual evidence from the Tuna himself. Maybe you'll like this Longhorn.
by CowboyBawler4 on Mar 2, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes the most sense because
didn't he play in a 3-4 system at Virgina?? He is the perfect fit for Parcells. They need DEs in that defense.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
plus, his buddy Groh will highly recommend him
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sure will
he has the Groh connection.
That writer for Yahoo sports was just on Serius Radio and said that rumor of Jason Taylor being released, or traded is absolutely true. He said he was working on that story for 10 days through multiple sources.
He said don't believe what Parcells says because he loves playing the media. Many around the league don't believe a lot of what Parcells says according to him. He said just ask Arthur Blank and other organizations around the league that he stiffed.
Parcells told him that he would take the job and five hours later he accepts the Miami job.
I will agree with him that you can't believe a lot of Parcells says. This might be a case where someone leaked the information and Parcells is trying to clean it up. It doesn't appear that Taylor fits his plans on defense which makes the rumor somewhat plausable.
If it's going to happen it probably will around draft time.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 6:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor is a perfect fit for the Dolphins 3-4...
He has played some OLB in the past and he will be pass rusher.
He's got a couple of years remaining on his contract and he's worth every penny (to the Dolphins or another team). If he's not in Miami next season he will be a) retired, or b) traded.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 6:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Fargo...Tuna's a dope...
but he ain't stupid...
Lawrence Taylor, Willie MaGinest, John Abrahams, DeMarcus Ware...are the reason Tuna is what he is today....you don't get rid of elite pass rushers...
Unless he gets overwhelmed with a high compensation package....forget him ever getting "cut"...He was 2006 NFL Defensive Player of the Year.....for pete's sake....I'd trade Ellis, Ayodele, and Spears for him right now.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 7:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami is close to signing
Calvin Pace to be their OLB.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 7:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you mean one of their OLBs
you need two.
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 7:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they said strong side
which is what side Talyor plays. They were just talking about this on Serius. I could see Taylor being groomed like Ellis unless Parcells thinks otherwise. Who knows, I guess we will find out.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 7:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor has played RDE / ROLB for years...
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Miami is not drafting a QB
they just signed Josh Mcgown to be their starter. They will draft Chris Long. Parcells is all about defense and now that Jason Taylor is going to be cut is all but certain.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Josh McCown?
I think that's what you mean, but, Lol, that's funny. John Beck > Josh McCown, and that's pretty bad.
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard his interview on Serius
He is the starter.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Terry's boy Tyler Palko
is better than that guy. If BP is seriously going into the future without a future QB than he's getting a lot dumber in his old age...
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's not going to be cut...
That was an erroneous report from Yahoo!....Parcells cleared it up with Mort.
Besides, they wouldn't cut Taylor....he has trade value.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN reported yesterday
and today that Jason Taylor will be let go before the draft.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor won't be cut...come on....
the dude is worthy of a first round pick...you think they'll just cut him....
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No.....it wasn't ESPN
It was Yahoo! and Parcells put an end to those reports.
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network also said it last night
Maybe it isn't true, but they could be setting it up as a draft day trade.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tuna did go on the record
As saying Taylor will play for the Fins or retire. But I could see him being traded for multiple picks and/or players. I don't trust Mort when it comes to his reports on BP, he's been made to look foolish in the past.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tom question on your quote is that from gladiator
I thought his name was something like Maximus Decimus Meridius? Maybe im wrong idk but i love that movie sorrry off topic.
by thebigham on Mar 2, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you're right
I just substituted Ware for Meridius.
I love that movie too.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 3:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No worries mate
You were right on the info.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
they'll take Jake Long if there at #3..
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rams are going to take Jake Long
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
geeez...exposed ???...
I'll go on record right now that Michael Turner will have over 1,200 yards next season....and that's with splitting carries, having no QB, and a shaky O line....
He's worth every cent he got...And he's a back i'd take over every back in this draft...you'll see...finally..he gets to shine..
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll take that bet
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Long is going to be the
#1 player selected in the draft. It's as good as gold.
They were talking the other day Parcells could throw out some rumors that they are interested in Ryan so they could get a team to move up to the #1 spot.
Many people believe that Parcells has no intentions of drafting a rookie QB. Great strategy on his part, because Miami wants no part of the #1 pick.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
they will draft a QB
just not with the #1 overall pick in the draft...Braum, Flacco, or Henne in round 2 seems more like it.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that's what they thought about Beck. Now, look where they are at...
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Boyz
Parcells is not in the business of drafting rookie QBs. Ryan is good, but he is far from great which is the problem many are having with him right now.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn will be cut, Gay signed with Saints & Notes
Saints | Gay reportedly agrees to four-year contract
ESPN.com reports free-agent CB Randall Gay(Patriots) has reportedly agreed to a four-year contract worth up to $17.8 million with the New Orleans Saints, according to NFL.com and the New Orleans Times-Picayune. The Times-Picayune reports the deal is worth about $6.7 million in salary and bonuses over the first two years, with a chance to go up to $9 million based on playing time.
Not a bad contract for him.
Falcons | Dunn will likely be released
Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:52:31 -0800
John Murphy, of Yahoo Sports, reports Atlanta Falcons RB Warrick Dunn will likely be released Monday, March 3, in order to help clear space under the team's salary cap.
Turner Contract:
The deal includes $15 million of guaranteed money and is expected to be worth over $34 million in total.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 3:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dunn is such a god guy
I know he's getting up there, but if he's healthy enough to play, that's another backup RB the Cowboys could pick up cheap.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 4:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
by Longhorn on Mar 2, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love a RB rotation
of MB3, rookie RB X and Dunn. He is a class act and team guy and he'd play cheap to play in dallas.
by Billito on Mar 2, 2008 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that would be ideal signing....Dunn is the man .
Dunn is a great back up....best out there if available...He's a great team mate, leader, and citizen...man...i hope we go after him...
Go Noles'...lol
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 4:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
33 year old running back
PASS!!!!
by Deke on Mar 2, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Deke
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 6:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why do you say
"he would play cheap to play in dallas"
just wondering
by 325424 on Mar 2, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if he wants a job and achampionship....
he would...
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
stoopid
well if he wants a job he will have lots of offers.
if he wants a championship he can choose between NYG, the Pats, the Packers, the Bolts, the Colts etc.
a lot of teams are in the running. is their any reason to think he would ask us for less money than them?
i am always amused how quickly you guys think people will work on the cheap to be here.
by 325424 on Mar 3, 2008 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
man would that be sweet
Dunn is a real class act. I see him as being the same way Brad Johnson is to Romo to MB3 and rookie RB X.
by CowboyBawler4 on Mar 2, 2008 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
NO tabs CB in FA...music to my ears.......
that is the real sweet news here....This would no doubt knock NO out of the DRC & McKelvin sweepstakes....wooo hooo...i sure wish two other teams had taken Samuels and Florence though...
NO
Houston
Detroit
all picked up new CB's.....sweeeet
that still leaves possible canidates to land CB's :
NE - or OLB
Baltimore - or QB
Cincy - or RB,OL,DE,DT,LB
Buffalo - or WR
Arizona - or RB
Washington- or DE
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why?
If Philly is signing a big name FA CB then obviously they would have been seeking a CB in the draft as well since its obvious that they feel its a need for them.
Philly signing Samuel is good for us cause thats one team not looking at DRC in the draft.
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that would have been more inclined to draft a WR.
Philly needs a playmaking WR, and i'm positive they'll draft one in round 1 .... By signing Samuels takes care of their long term goals..(Sheldon Brown to safety, Samuels taking over at CB)...they certainly weren't desperate for CB's....they have the cap space to make play on the top CB available....they needed more playmaking ability out of their secondary, which only accounted for 9 interceptions last season. Samuels brings that...They also addressed their other need of a pass rushing DE by taking Clemons from Oakland...Philly gets an "A" so far in offseason moves. They go into the draft with little or no needs...
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope they draft a WR in 1st rd
because none are worthy of 1st rd status.
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed Terry
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 6:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
philly drafted
2 DB's a few years ago despite no apparent need. they frequently surprise people with their picks. i think its tough to count them out.
now BRB07 when you say you are positive philly will draft a WR in the first do you have some edge here or are you just guessing?
by 325424 on Mar 3, 2008 8:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well...325424..i can't etch it stone...but...
not like i propose you go by every mock draft that you see....but if you did, you'd realize practically every one does have Philly taking a WR...and if they didn't....they will shortly...pre-free agency...their most clearing needs were at pass rushing DE, playmaking CB, and a playmaking WR....
ok...they just signed:
Clemons-DE
Samuels-CB
next ? -WR
btw...McNabb has publicly begged for a difference maker on offense, even posted it on his own blog site..hence the 10 mil/per offer to Randy Moss...well..we know that didn't happen..
I can't guarantee, seeing there is no way of me knowing who might go WR before Philly...but i'll throw my two cents in anyways....
- Malcolm Kelly will get drafted by Buffalo.
- You may be inclined to add Denver to the mix, with the loss of Smith, Kicus, and Walker.
- You might want to know that Chicago is now on the list of teams that may go WR, with the loss of Berrian, and Muhamad<sp>.
- Minnesota was a team projected to go WR, but i believe they've done what they need to do with the signing of Berrian, and a more pressing need for a pass rushing DE.
5)Now you have Philly...had long been projected to take Desean Jackson, if available here. His size may scare them off now. But is sure to be an electrifying force in the NFL.
They may look at Sweed, Hardy, or Thomas right here......Am I positive ?..nahh..but if i was a betting man...bet the bank on it.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 3, 2008 9:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If Bills sign Johnson, they won't draft Kelly
by Terry on Mar 3, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well..IF...being the operative word...
everything may change in a week......i'm speculating as of right now...
doesn't change my view of where Philly will be leaning in the first. In fact...Johnson signing would enhance my beliefs.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 3, 2008 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blank has already indicated they will retain Dunn
He could be cut and signed back, but Atlanta is desperately trying to win back their fans and keeping a good guy like Dunn is only logical.
Arthur Blank has already made comments that they intend to keep Dunn.
With Dunn's age, and the fact that the Falcons already have Jerius Norwood, it would only seem logical that Dunn would be released....however it's my guess that Yahoo! is only speculating (as they did with Jason Taylor).
by Fargo Cowboys on Mar 2, 2008 5:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if they do cut him
Maybe Jerry can get Dunn to come down to Dallas. He might give him enough $$$ to keep ATL from getting him back. Dunn would certainly have a better shot at contributing to a SB in Dallas than he would in Atlanta.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear the Colts want him
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dungy connection
That makes sense too.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 9:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly, I don't get it
Jerious Norwood has been pretty incredible when given the chance to play. I'd understand if they were bringing in a complementary back, but Turner's probably going to get 250 carries the way the Atlanta passing game will look.
I do worry about this contract from a Cowboys standpoint; MB3 will stand to earn an even larger sum in a year's time.
by BudLight on Mar 2, 2008 5:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
every team needs 2 good backs
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 6:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to the tune of spending
34 and a half million on half of your running game.
by BudLight on Mar 2, 2008 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Turner will be carrying that load..trust...
He'll get over 75% of the carries in Atlanta. featured back money....that's the going rate....
Expect MBIII to command over 7 million...which is why i would have rather we placed "just" a first rounder tender on him.
His contract should have been done before Crayton's, during the season...I go that far back in my displeasure of how things are going to go down.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 7:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, MB3's market value will be around
the same as Turner's. MB3 hasn't done anything to warrant that kind of contract. Maybe in the future, but no now.
by Terry on Mar 2, 2008 7:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he isn't going to be signed now...he'll be a FA
ok....so...Turner is making 6 million/per, after being a career back up...
You mean to tell me Barber isn't going to get 7 million after coming off a Pro Bowl season as a part time back ??
After his agent just proclaimed him not only one of the best RB's in the league,...but one of the best overall players in the league ??
good luck signing him for anything less than 6 years/ 40 million...good luck I say. Personally I wouldn't pay a dime over 5 million/per for him...but it's too late now..market is set...He'll play out this season and leave via FA....or be selected this spring, for a 1st & 3rd....either or...I don't see him here after '08. Should have signed him in December, when they had a chance to.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The cap will go up next season
I wouldn't count MB3 out yet. But, it does give Dallas a chance to draft a guy to split carries with him for a year at least. Either way, it will work out.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 7:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cap going up, but look who we have to sign
next year Canty, Newman, MB3, Colombo. Ware will be going into the last year of his contract.
One or two of these players won't be back.
My guess, Newman and Colombo. Free or Mcquistan will replace Colombo at RT. We have to get these guys on the field because we can't afford another high priced OL contract.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I still think MB3 or Canty gets extended
Before the season starts. JMO
The Ware contract will be a monster, and I can't believe Newman wouldn't be re-signed. I'd say Colombo might be the odd man out, only because RT seems like the easiest position to replace out of those mentioned.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 8:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Newmans age is going
to hurt him getting a deal he wants here. I think he may be gone. We can't over pay for a CB turing 31 in 2009.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 9:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cap in '09 will remain at 116 unless CBA is ext..
ask DeRat....he' ll have the answers ....
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 8:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If thats true
we won't be able to resign all those players I mentioned.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know that
That kind of sucks for us. I thought the cap always went up each year based on TV revenues.
by APerfectStar on Mar 2, 2008 8:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I will say this
Rosenhaus will try to push for a better deal because of what MB3 accomplished this past season. Turner hasn't done a whole lot in his career. This is exactly the scenerio Jerry didn't want to happen, the reason why drafting a RB capable of starting has to happen.
by Cowboys81 on Mar 2, 2008 7:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I may be crazy but...
I watch almost every NFL game and two RB's I saw last year who I thought were pretty decent were Derek Ward and Jesse Chatman. I think they are both free agents and are tough runners. Ward seems a little fragile but has good vision, Chatman will play with a broken leg and has pretty good hands. I also think they may come cheaper than a back in the first round.
by dukes27 on Mar 2, 2008 10:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think Chapman resigned in Miami...
maybe....thought i seen it...but saw another site that didn't have the transaction.
by BoyzRback07 on Mar 2, 2008 11:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
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