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Pacman talking live to Michael Irvin

I’m breaking my "no talk radio" rule and I’m listening to the Pacman Jones interview with Michael Irvin. So far, not too much of significance is being said, Pacman is just describing his upbringing, his attempts to distance himself from the bad crowd he was running with, and his efforts to put his bad decisions behind him. He’s being pretty contrite and taking full responsibility for his mistakes but it was pretty much what I’d expect him to say in an attempt to get back in the league. I’m somewhat cynical but he does sound sincere. You can listen in at this link. Also, feel free to post your comments on the interview in this thread, consider it a kind of open thread for the Pacman interview.

Yesterday, I posted a link to an article by Nick Eatman where his point was "why not" take a chance on Pacman. Today, Mickey Spags counters with the idea that team chemistry – among other things – should make the Cowboys pause before taking a chance on Pacman. Meanwhile, Tom Orsborn suggests that strong, upright guys like DeMarcus Ware will help to keep Pacman in check. In other words, no one really knows how it would turn out. That’s why risk/reward is the operative phrase with Pacman. Depending on whether you believe the reward outweighs the risk, or vice versa, colors your opinion on bringing Pacman to Dallas.

Chris Canty sounds a little bitter that the Cowboys haven’t discussed a long-term contract with his agent yet.

"[The Cowboys] made the commitment they are willing to make to me. They didn't have to [make a long-term extension offer], but in the same breath they didn't have to give [nose tackle] Jay Ratliff a contract extension during the season.

"They didn't have to extend a couple of guys that they extended, but they did; that was the level of commitment towards those guys. I'm not saying I'm being discarded, because every situation is different. The tender offer is a good offer. That's more money that I've seen, so I have to keep it in perspective here."

I understand Canty wants some long-term security but I have to say last season was the first season he started to live up to his potential. The Cowboys - I guess - will wait to see if he can do it two years in a row. Or they just could be waiting until later in the offseason or maybe into the season to go after a long-term deal. Hold tough Canty, go out and do your job again and I’m sure Jerry will reward you, he usually does.

Scouts, Inc. ranked the top 64 wide receivers in the league. They had Randy Moss at number one and Terrell Owens at number two. Nice. Where did the other Cowboys rank?

  1. Patrick Crayton

With veteran receiver Terry Glenn injured most of the 2007 season, Crayton became one of Dallas' top targets. Most defensive coordinators devise their game plans to take away Owens and Jason Witten, which enables a third option to flourish in the Cowboys' air attack. He is not hesistant to throw his body around in the running game. Crayton, however, is a jack-of-many trades, master of none.

  1. Terry Glenn

Glenn came into the league with premier speed and still has more than most. However, he is getting beat up at the end of his career, and he has never been very eager to go over the middle to catch balls in traffic.

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Grizz..

I posted the scouts Inc link in a diary too...

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Mar 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT   0 recs

you can tell PacMan's agent has preped him well

the one part of the interview that raised my eyebrow was when asked about going to a strip club before meeting with Goodell last year, he said it was just dumb, but he has no regrets.  No regrets?? You got to be kidding. IMO, this guy is an absolute moron and doesn't deserve to play in the league.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 25, 2008 12:19 PM CDT   0 recs

Someone must have noticed that too

in Pacman's circle. When he came back from break, he said that was wrong to say, that he did have regret over that. I wonder if his agent or if Irvin prompted him to amend that statement.

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by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on Mar 25, 2008 12:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

His agent or lawyer

Is probably in the studio to make sure Pacman doesn't say stupid crap such as, "I'm trying to change. I got a stripper pole installed in my house." His reps immediately said he was just kidding, but you just know he wasn't.

This guy just doesn't get it.

"On my signal...unleash Hell." Demarcus Maximus Decimus Ware

by APerfectStar on Mar 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sure irvin is helping him out

and telling him to correct it when they come back on the air.

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Mar 25, 2008 12:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You are correct
Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Mar 25, 2008 12:23 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The Micheal Irvin Oprah show continues

Please, someone hand me some kleenex, I'm about to cry!!!

The guy is so rehearsed in what to say. Irvin and Pacman's agent probably spent the weekend preparing him. I understand the guy has a tough chidhood, but you have to take responsibility for your own actions and stop with the excuses.

Trade up a few spots to get ahead of Houston and draft Jonathan Stewart, thee best all around Back in the draft.

by Deke on Mar 25, 2008 12:27 PM CDT   0 recs

To be honest

This is an improvement from his usual if he's actually listening to his agent. In previous interviews, he was purposely contrarian to the point of saying whatever the  heck was on his mind, throwing common sense to the winds.
I'm not listening to the interview (Easier to work with Bon Jovi than Mike Irvin, heh) but if he's actually taking cues from hs agent, that's a baby step in the proper direction.

http://heartbreakplex.blogspot.com/

by BudLight on Mar 25, 2008 12:35 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

exactly Deke, its not like other pro athletes

didn't have troubled childhoods and not all of them are out getting arrested every 3 months. That is one excuse I'll never buy.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 25, 2008 1:30 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This interview

They are going through each incident...  they want his side of the story...

Cowboys fan since 1978.. I was 3 years old

by Mullin on Mar 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT   0 recs

did you guys hear?

kevin kiley call him a "moron" without actually calling him a moron?

hilarious...

by Jordan2 on Mar 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT   0 recs

Pacman could solve all his problems

if he would just follow one simple rule: Quit carrying around Luis Vuitton bags. Ha! People keep stealing those suckers getting the Pac in trouble. You must conquer your addiction to Luis Vuitton!

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by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on Mar 25, 2008 12:43 PM CDT   0 recs

???

Randy Moss (left) and T.O. have comparable career stats. Moss has 774 catches for 12,193 yards and 124 TDs. Owens has 882 catches for 13,070 yards and 129 TDs.

The Scout Article

I know most of us are inclined to say that TO's better, considering where our loyalty lies; however, how do you argue with that statement? I understand that TO has had 2 more years to gain these extra stats, but the way the cards are right now, how is TO not the better WR?

He leads Randy Moss in the 3 most critical categories concerning the WR position.

Can someone please shed some relevant light to this for me pleeeeease?

My popcorn's ready!

by CowboyBawler4 on Mar 25, 2008 12:55 PM CDT   0 recs

Firstly,

You said it yourself. TO has played more years. It makes a huge difference.
Disclaimer on my next claim: It's to his own detriment as a player that he didn't do much, but... Moss played two years in Oakland where he really didn't want to do anything. In pretty much every season but those two, he's been a singularly threatening player. Keep this in perspective: Not a single season with less than 1233 yards receiving and only 1 with less than 10 TDs.
Look, I hate to say this. But over the years, Moss has been better than TO. He's put up numbers like that and JUST turned 31, It's absurd.

http://heartbreakplex.blogspot.com/

by BudLight on Mar 25, 2008 1:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

The Oakland experiment set him back. He stunk while there, along with the rest of the team. That's why the Pat's picked him up for a 4th rounder.

"On my signal...unleash Hell." Demarcus Maximus Decimus Ware

by APerfectStar on Mar 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Dude, over the length of their careers

those stats are amazingly similar. I don't see any great injustice in ranking Moss at the top. T.O. does have the problem of drops, always has. Owens does more as a receiver in terms over going over the middle, etc. but as a pure deep threat, no one matches Moss.

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by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on Mar 25, 2008 1:05 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree, but T.O. is the more complete receiver

He blocks much better and like you said, will catch the ball anywhere on the field.

Lets face it, Moss isn't a big fan of contact, just like Deion wasn't in his day.

In Romo we Trust

by Terry on Mar 25, 2008 1:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Be that as it may

Neither of them needed to be. Deoin is still the greatest cornerback in recent memory, Moss one of the most productive receivers ever (at this rate). When you're that good at a certain something, your game doesn't have to be as complete. Jack of one trade and utter master of it is a good thing to be.

http://heartbreakplex.blogspot.com/

by BudLight on Mar 25, 2008 1:50 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I cant say this being 100% sure but..

I dont think TO ever quit on his team. Moss not only didnt play in oakland but he left a game early in MINN. I dont think TO has ever not gave 110% in between the white lines.

by thebigham on Mar 25, 2008 2:15 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You can't go on stats alone...

And if you were....On per game averages Moss is the better WR....Personally..I think Moss is a better WR...always has been.

The key to your whole statement is that TO played two more seasons....If you add two more of Moss' season averages to his totals..he blows away TO's stats....

Moss has much better hands, and is faster, and probably better verticle leap..If he didn't have to endear 3+ seasons wasting away in Oakland...His stats would be that much more dominant.

True Cowboys diehard since 1975.

by BoyzRback07 on Mar 25, 2008 4:12 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I understand all of this...

but if we were to look at the cold hard facts.

Moss has 774 catches for 12,193 yards and 124 TDs. Owens has 882 catches for 13,070 yards and 129 TDs.

I still believe TO is the better WR. I fully understand where you guys are coming from in the sense that stats are not everything, but once again the facts lie in TO's favor.

The time Moss spent in Oakland is irrelevant. It makes little sense to argue that him being there makes him a better WR because he had no chance to excel there. A great WR is judged not only on stats as many of you have said, but upon the ability to improve his team. Moss failed to do so.

WR's aren't judged solely on their performance on a single team, but upon their career as a whole. Including Moss' nasty stint in Oakland, the facts are that TO leads Moss in all 3 critical WR categories. Had Moss won a ring this year, maybe he'd be better in my eyes; however, as of now TO is the best WR in the game to me. The facts concur.

My popcorn's ready!

by CowboyBawler4 on Mar 25, 2008 4:39 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

well...add TO's drops if you want to go off stats.
He was third in the league this year with 10 drops....First last year with 14...

by you comparing TO's career stat's against anyone's career stat's are completely invalid unless they've played the same amount of games or at least seasons......Only way your validating your preference for TO, is by doing so...This is how numbers can be configured for anyone's argument.

it's like comparing a 12 year vet's stat's against a 3rd year WR's stats...you can't base it on overall...you must break down into season averages, not career totals....not sure why you can't understand that...

True Cowboys diehard since 1975.

by BoyzRback07 on Mar 25, 2008 5:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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