Roger Goodell on Pacman Jones reinstatement
The Commish – Roger Goodell – addressed the Pacman situation today at a luncheon in Dallas. Jerry Jones was also on hand.
"If he continues to conduct himself in a way that I think represents the NFL positively, I will consider reinstating him before the season," Goodell said during his open forum remarks. "Whether he is going to be traded or not doesn't impact on my decision, on that basis. His representatives know that."
"I think any time you can look into people's eyes and seeing how they say something, whether they are genuine in what they are saying," Goodell said. "A lot of us can be scripted, a lot of us can be told, `These are the messages' and `This is what the commissioner wants to hear.' But I will ask questions and I will look for responses from him to see if he is genuine and if he's taking responsibility for what he's done. ...
"You can make a mistake, but you need to recover from that mistake, and you need to start to develop the resources and the understanding how to make better decisions going forward. And that's what I'm hoping for from Adam when I look him in the eye. I'll ask him questions and I'm hoping he'll be genuine and I'm hoping he'll conduct himself in the right way and I'm hoping we'll see him on the field again someday."
Sounds like high-noon at Pacman’s reinstatement interview, whenever that comes.
Jerry had some comments too, basically saying the deal has very little momentum right now and that the longer it drags out the less chance it has of happening. I call that negotiating through the media. Jerry wants the Titans to think he’ll bail. Heck, he’s playing the commish card.
However, Jerry Jones said he’s not confident that Pacman Jones will be reinstated by the league. "Not at all."
"It’s going to take more than just talk from Adam to get on the field."
Sounds to me like Jerry’s holding firm trying to force the Titan's hand.

Hey, if we don’t get the Pacman trade done, we can always move on to another trade. We have a volunteer.
"I want to be traded before the draft, and if that doesn't happen, I want to be traded as soon as possible,'' [Chad] Johnson said. "I don't intend on reporting to anything.''
That was in response to Carson Palmer saying Chad told him he would be reporting to workouts. Things sound peachy with the Bengals.

Helmet Head vs. McShay in a battle of first round mocks.
- Dallas Cowboys (from CLE): Mel Kiper - Felix Jones RB | Todd McShay - Felix Jones RB
- Dallas Cowboys: Mel Kiper - DeSean Jackson WR | Todd McShay - James Hardy WR
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2 second round talents. I don't know why everyone wants Felix in the first round. Why would you take a complimentary back in the first, especially with the depth at that position in this draft?
None of the WRs this year are first round talents, especially Jackson of the 6' 165 pound variety. If you take a receiver in the first round, don't you expect him to eventually be a #1? I don't expect Jackson to be any more than a decent slot receiver... if he doesn't get killed first.
by hiafex on Apr 16, 2008 7:24 PM CDT 0 recs
On Felix Jones, quoting Grizz
'Cause he put it so well
I like Felix Jones for the Cowboys
Obviously, we don't have a back behind MB3. Also, we are not the fastest offense, especially with J Jones gone and T Glenn on the shelf (who knows his future). I like having a scat-back with home run ability in my running attack, especially when my main runner is a beast but not likely to score from long range. Some may call that a complementary position but to me it's another weapon in the arsenal. I don't care where production comes from as long as it comes. And F. Jones has produced every year at Arkansas. We don't know how good he will be, but at worst I'm betting he would be a change of pace back that can provide instant offense and who could be a league best on special teams. If his talent continues to unfold as he gets a little bigger and stronger, he may be a back in the mold of Westbrook.
The Cowboys are in that narrow window where the Super Bowl is possible. The time to strike is now and Jones would add something to our team this year, he would have an immediate role. But that doesn't mean I think Jones is somehow a wasted pick if MB3 leaves. Maybe he isn't the lead back and we bring in someone else, but he would still have the same role then. And it's an important role, not just complementary, but part of the offensive attack.
Speed plus production is a good thing. I think Felix will provide that.
by goodjobtimmyheresabluestar on
Apr 16, 2008 7:37 PM CDT
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I expect
Either Chris Jonhson or Jamaal Charles to fall to pick #61 and I would rather take either of them at those positions than Felix at 22 or 28. This team needs a CB and it should be addressed in the first round. Preferrably Jenkins but Cason is a good option as well. I'd take Jonathan Stewart (if he falls) over either of those CBs at 22 and hope that one of the CB falls to 28.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 7:49 PM CDT
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Why would you take Stewart ?>?>?>?
To be a complementary back ???? You just stated we shouldn't be drafting a RB in round 1 ???....what gives ?....You don't want a RB or WR in round 1...the point was made.
And you state we should draft a CB (either Jenkins or Cason) in the first...but once again you state we should draft a complementary back in Stewart at #22,(If he falls....lol...) who is currently in a cast with surgically repaired ligiments in his foot, and a college career riddled with ankle ailments.......that may not be even ready to start walking, much less ready for full workouts in training camp.
And what makes you think Jamaal Charles or Chris Johnson (add Matt Forte and Ray Rice as well) are going to be there at #61 ????? HIGHLY UNLIKELY ...
You people amaze me sometimes.....
ME:
(scratching head trying to figure out what's up)
p.s. to Timmy Bluestar, Thanks for reposting Grizz's quote on Felix Jones...cuz Grizz sure knows what the heck he's talking about, and I couldn't have written it any better.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 8:27 PM CDT
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I don't know why you're so enamored with Felix
At least Stewart has started in his college career and he ran faster than Jones at the combine. He wouldn't be the complimentary back if we don't resign Barber next year. I don't see Stewart as a complimentary back, just another starter. He had surgery for turf-toe. I don't get what's so bad about that injury, especially since he played through the pain during the season. He should be back for training camp. We need 2 RBs out of this draft anyways, take a scat back in the later rounds.
I believe at least Charles or Johnson will fall that far because RB isn't that big of a need for most teams.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 8:41 PM CDT
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please.........
Teams that more than likely will be drafting a RB within the first few rounds....
Miami
St. Louis*
Oakland*
Kansas City
N Y Jets*
New England
Baltimore
New Orleans
Carolina*
Chicago*
Houston*
Arizona*
Tampa*
Dallas*
Seattle
Tennessee
San Diego*
San Fran
Green Bay
At least Stewart has started in his college career
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Felix Jones also started in his college career.
and he ran faster than Jones at the combine.
Dude....Is that your holy grail ?? 40 times at the combine...LOL...funny, Do you even know that Felix Jones has ran a 4.37 40's on several occasion at campus workouts ??
btw numb nutz.....Jonathan Srewart 4.48 40
Felix Jones 4.47 40
Get your friggin stats right.
He wouldn't be the complimentary back if we don't resign Barber next year.
How do you figure that ? If we don't resign MBIII, I'd think we'd also have someone in place to complement Stewart....don't you think ?
I don't see Stewart as a complimentary back, just another starter.
ehhhh ??? just another starter ? isn't that hogpog for complementary back ??
Yeah.....that all made sense...
Do you even realize the #2 and #3 leading rushers in the NFL this past year are the same size as Felix Jones ?
Willie Parker and Brian Westbrook....
Felix Jones , coming out of college, is much more highly rated than either of these two were....
goodnight...
He had surgery for turf-toe. I don't get what's so bad about that injury, especially since he played through the pain during the season.
That's gotta be the most absurd statement I've seen on this site....The dude's foot is his bread and butter....and it wasn't "JUST TURF TOE" ...It was stretched ligiments around his plant toe, his acceleration toe, his cut back toe, his drive toe, .....I had the same exact injury 20 years ago...not a simple turf toe injury... Very very cautious while deciding to take this risk....
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 9:20 PM CDT
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I don't think half or more of those teams will be drafting a RB in the first 2 rounds. They have much bigger needs than RB.
It wasn't my holy grail, just a random stat. I'm sorry if I got it wrong but the thing that most people point to about Felix is his speed and I was just saying that Stewart is just as fast.
Yeah, we would need someone to compliment Stewart if Marion was gone... which is the point of drafting a scat-back in the later rounds.
Stewart had an amazing workout and a really good season with the turf-toe. If we take Felix over Stewart, it would be a reach. That's all I'm saying.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 9:32 PM CDT
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I'll help you out with this list
Miami ---NO
St. Louis* ---NO
Oakland* Davis running the show, possible/doubful
Kansas City ---NO
N Y Jets* definitely YES if Mcfadden is there
New England ---NO
Baltimore ---NO
New Orleans---NO
Carolina* --possible back
Chicago* ---NO
Houston* ---possible YES
Arizona* ---possible YES
Tampa* ---NO
Dallas* ---YES
Seattle ----NO
Tennessee ---slightly Possible
San Diego* --NO WAY
San Fran ---NO
Green Bay---YES
you forgot Detroit---YES
by Deke on
Apr 16, 2008 9:34 PM CDT
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wrong again.....true list....
Seeing there are only 8-10 actual first day RB available....I'll limit it better....
Miami -have more needs..Brown/ACL,Williams/issues
St. Louis* - Name Steven Jackson's backup ??
Oakland* - Al Davis = speed back..hmmm..
Kansas City - Larry Johnson and who else ?
N Y Jets* - JuJo's brother ?...please..
New England - Maroney and who else ??
Baltimore - Lewis getting old, who's his backup ?
New Orleans- Talks of Duece being cut loose.
Detroit- Who is their starting RB in '08 ???
Carolina* - Deangelo Willims isn't carrying no load.
Chicago* - no ?..oh..the other Adrian Peterson..lol
Houston* - YES....Jonathan Stewart goes here.
Arizona* OR here....lol...sorry Deke..
Tampa* - They have much interest in Felix Jones...
Dallas* - The real destination of Felix Jones.
Seattle - JuJo and Duckett..not awe inspiring...
Tennessee- Not happy with Chis Henry.
San Diego*- LT needs a serious backup...
San Fran- Frank Gore injury awau from 2-14 season.
Green Bay- Jackson and Grant, help needed maybe.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 9:59 PM CDT
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sorry, referring to first round only
by Deke on
Apr 16, 2008 10:02 PM CDT
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I don't believe most of those teams will draft a RB on the first day, they have much bigger needs. But... we'll have to wait till draft day to see.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 10:10 PM CDT
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8 teams will be drafting an RB on day 1..........
you can pick and choose whoever you want...but 8-10 backs will be gone by the end of day 1.
DMac 1
Stewart 1
Mendenhall 1
Jones 1
Charles 1-2
Forte 2
Johnson 2
Rice 2
Smith 2-3
Choice 2-3
all may be drafted on day one....count on it.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 10:31 PM CDT
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You think there will be 5-7 RBs taken in the 2nd round? I don't think that many will be taken but we'll see.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 10:38 PM CDT
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I know of 4 for sure...
Round 1:
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DMac
Mendenhall
Stewart
Jones
Round 2:
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Charles- possible first rounder
Johnson
Forte
Rice
*Possible 2nd rounder, more likely 3rd rounders:
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Smith*
Choice
Slaton
Simpson
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 10:52 PM CDT
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here you go Deke.....just for you...
retrieved from http://www.profootballtalk.com
CARDINALS CHECKING OUT TAILBACKS
Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2008, 10:45 p.m.
With Edgerrin James not getting any younger (or any better), the Arizona Cardinals are looking at their options in the draft.Per the Arizona Republic, the Cardinals have visits scheduled with Oregon’s Jonathan Stewart and East Carolina’s Chris Johnson. Stewart likely will be available when the Cardinals draft in round one (No. 16 overall), and Johnson likely will be available when the Cardinals select in round two (No. 50 overall).
In addition to James, the Cardinals have Marcel Shipp, J.J. Arrington, Chris Vincent, and Steve Baylark on the roster.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:09 PM CDT
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Boyz-calm down, dude.
You're getting bellicose again! And we all know how that upsets the children.
by BudLight on
Apr 16, 2008 11:59 PM CDT
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haha....bellicose...love that word...and NO..
I won't calm down....Felix Jones is a stud, and if I am forced to read senseless dribble to the contrary, I'll continue to defend the possible selection.......and if I need to remind you people of his career accolades every single day until we draft him April 26th.......then I will.
I am obviously not the only guy in the world who thinks, and knows, and predicts that we will draft this dynamic playmaker, as you'll notice nearly EVERY credible drafnik has us selecting him...
Unless you have some actual logistic stats to prove he will not be a premier RB in the NFL, I will contend that he's already proven himself to be an elite RB.
On that note...I'm going to bed...lol...goodnight
p.s...love your sig....Adam Jones is a stud too...
This will go down as one of the best drafts in Dallas history....
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 17, 2008 12:17 AM CDT
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I think Felix could be gone by #22
But here's a quote from an article by Matt Lombardi on CNNSI that I remembered when reading this thread
- As you do your research, if the team and the player are always the same, then the chances of that player going there are not very good. This applies particularly in the bottom 15 of the first round. Think outside the box and remember misinformation is what most teams are trying to pass along.
Mock Drafts Help, Hurt NFL Teams
It's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out, only 9 more days!
by ChrisRichey on
Apr 17, 2008 1:19 AM CDT
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Oh yeah
Thanks for implying that I don't know what I'm talking about simply because my opinion on the Cowboys draft strategy differs from yours.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 8:52 PM CDT
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Barber isn't a lead back
He's the complimentary back, Stewart is an all around lead back. Stop with this Stewart is in a boot, he is not. He's already walking at on it without the boot, and is ahead of schedule, he'll be ready to go in July, it wasn't a four to six month injury as was falsely reported. A couple of scouts thought it would be smart to get it taken care of before the draft and the season so there wouldn't be any doubts, he decided to get it fixed now, which is a smart move by Stewart. He never missed a game in two years, was a lead back in High school and the number prospect coming out of high school and showed he was a lead back in college, sometihng your boy Felix hasn't shown.
The injury was so bad that he never missed a geme and was lights out at the bowl game and combine, running just as fast as the so-called blazing Feliz Jones..there is no difference in 4.47 and 4.48
Felix Jones isn't a first round talent, he's a complimentary back, thats it, not a lead back, the guy averaged 11 carries a game in a gimmick type offense.
by Deke on
Apr 16, 2008 9:27 PM CDT
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You guys are way off on Jackson
Have you watched him play? This guy plays bigger than he is, sort of the way Steve Smith does. He fights for jump balls, he makes plays in traffic. I think worst case is he pans out to be Santana Moss. And I would take Santana Moss with the 28th pick right now.
I think in an offense like ours he can be a Marvin Harrison type (minus the cowardly way that Harrison makes a catch and immediately dives on the ground.)
Now before you say that Harrison is listed at 185. That means about as much as Larry Allen being listed at 320 all those years.
Marvin Harrison got on a scale in front of the whole world on "Battle of the Gridiron Stars" and he was 165.
Are there a lot of successful small recievers? No, of course not. But there are enough examples of smaller, explosive wideouts that you cant just write a guy off because he's small.
And who says he cant be 180-185 by '09 anyway.
by GloryDayz88 on
Apr 16, 2008 9:11 PM CDT
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WR isn't a first round need
Especially since the receiver would probably not contribute as much as a 1st round CB or RB. If we go WR in the first round, we should trade the 28th pick for a veteran.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 9:17 PM CDT
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What is this...
Is this win now at all costs and forget the future? So we bring in Roy, or Chad, or Boldin and pay them 7-8 million a year, get cap strapped? Then who do we sacrifice? Newman?...Canty?...Hamlin?...Barber? A veteran now means a 2009 house cleaning? We cant have them all. And if we bring in a veteran at that price it is officially Super Bowl or bust because we will have sacrificed the future.
Or, we bring in a dynamic playmaker at a third of that cost, who can contribute some now, but can give us 10 years. We wouldn't be having this discussion is Terry Glenn was 100% right? Well tell me who in this draft most resembles Terry Glenn....
Thats right DeSean Jackson. Only nastier with the ball in his hand. And a menace in the return game.
by GloryDayz88 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:10 PM CDT
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You want to win the Super Bowl this year, right?
Then a veteran WR is the way to go. If we don't resign this WR then just draft one next year or hope that Stanback continues to develop. I don't see much risk here.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 11:14 PM CDT
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Skins or Eagles will draft DeSean Jackson...
... if they don't sign or trade for a vet WR before the draft. And both of them draft before us in Round 1.
I agree that Jackson would probably the only wide receiver worthy of being drafted in the first round... and Washington or Philly would make sense.
But I hope I'm wrong :)
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:22 PM CDT
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I think those 2 teams have bigger needs than WR
And they don't have 2 1st rounders (and only 3 need positions) like the Cowboys do.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 11:40 PM CDT
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The Iggles are most likely going to take WR
I've also read several mocks with TB selecting Desean Jackson. That would make even more sense.
by APerfectStar on
Apr 17, 2008 9:05 PM CDT
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Actually, lately the talk for da skins...
Being that I live in Va Beach, VA, the Redskins are considered the local team. And one of the sports radio stations has three skins shows that has been clamoring for Washington to either have signed DJ Hackett or draft first DeSean Jackson a few months ago... to now Limas Sweed.
Some of their talking head experts consider Jackson a lot like Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle-El, so they deduced that a bigger receiver would be better to complement the speed of Moss and Randle-El.
I'd love for us to land Jackson. He and Eddie Royal are now the only two WRs that I'd like for our Cowboys to draft.
But if da King does go WR-Jackson, he'd better draft a first round CB, too.
There's enough depth at RB that we could nab on in Round 2.
Just my worthless opinion.
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 17, 2008 11:34 PM CDT
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Glory...you are correct.....I'm a fan.
DeSean Jackson is the only WR I would select in round one....IF we didn't need to have a CB or RB....
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 9:24 PM CDT
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I'd put Devin Thomas in that group as well
He reminds me a bit of Good Roy.
by BudLight on
Apr 17, 2008 12:01 AM CDT
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yeah..i'm warming up to Thomas...but he's raw....
Jackson is more seasoned, experienced, and an electrifying return man that would help immediately...Thomas would help, but he's got a big learning curve...If I knew for sure Terry Glenn wasn't going to play this year...I'd take Thomas...at #28 only...and I'm thinking he will go before pick #21 anyways....so no need to mention him....cuz I sure wouldn't trade UP for him.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 17, 2008 12:21 AM CDT
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I agree BubLight, Thomas will end up
being a much better pro than Jackson IMO.
by Terry on
Apr 17, 2008 7:39 AM CDT
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When we don't take Felix at 22
It will be like the apocalypse. Every draft "expert's" head will explode. It will be utter chaos.
by quincyyyyy on Apr 16, 2008 8:59 PM CDT 0 recs
Chad....
Is really hurting his image. I mean, I'm still not quite sure what about playing for Cincinnati is causing him to act this way. How would he go about reassuring his new team (if he gets traded) that he won't tune out in a similar fashion if things there don't go exactly the way he wants them?
It seems to me that Chad's got some serious issues to address, and a simple 'change of scenery' may not be enough. Hell, I don't remember T.O. making this much noise during his last months in Philly (although I could be wrong).
by Nelson on Apr 16, 2008 10:27 PM CDT 0 recs
TO did the same exact thing....
and he landed here...hope Chad pulls the same move.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 10:32 PM CDT
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If it did, THAT would deserve a "Wow!"
by kcbrett5 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:19 PM CDT
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Why are people saying
Felix Jones can't be a carry the load kind of guy? Admittedly he didn't in college but nobody would playing behind Darren McFadden. It seems people have some idea that Jones is a shrimp who could never prosper as an every down back in the NFL. I'm not saying he definitely can but check out some other "small" running backs.
Felix Jones 5-10 207
Emmitt Smith 5-9 216
Barry Sanders 5-8 200
Willie Parker 5-10 209
Warrick Dunn 5-9 187
Brian Westbrook 5-10 203
Those guys did pretty well at the same size as Felix. I'm not saying he's that good, but his size shouldn't limit him.
Oh yeah, for some of those other "every down" backs in this draft.
Chris Johnson 5-11 195
Jamaal Charles 5-11 200
Ray Rice 5-8 199
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on Apr 16, 2008 11:16 PM CDT 0 recs
I don't think
Anybody actually said anything about his size being a factor... I just think the style of offense run at Arkansas skewed his numbers.
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 11:39 PM CDT
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So I'm assuming you think the same of McFadden?
by Dave Halprin (Grizz) on
Apr 16, 2008 11:42 PM CDT
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Yes actually, I do.
I don't think he's physical enough to be effective in the NFL. Only time will tell though. I'll be the first to admit that I'm wrong if Felix and McFadden work out. I'm just offering up my opinion. :]
by hiafex on
Apr 16, 2008 11:54 PM CDT
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He's physical enough
But it won't do him any good to slam into linebackers when they can match him muscle for muscle. He sought contact when he had to at Ark and managed to get out of the affair smiling because he was more talented than anyone he ran across. He's said during an interview that he'll have to completely revamp his running style because it won't work out well at the pro level.
by BudLight on
Apr 17, 2008 12:03 AM CDT
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Go figure Grizz..I can't understand it either....
If Felix Jones had just carried the ball 5-10 more carries per game during his career, he'd be one of the all time leading yardage backs ever....
As a part time back playing behind the 2 time defending Doak Walker award winner, Felix Jones has amassed over 5,000 yards playing in the toughest conference in the country ??? ...yet he's not given the respect that a 3 time ALL American deserves ?????
I'm completely dumbfounded by the comments made on here about his abilities...
Are people really confused because he wasn't the primary ball carrier in college ? Seems to me Mendenhall only has about 4 more career starts than Jones, if that......Stewart about 10 more career starts than Jones...yet Jones can't be expected to carry the ball 12-15 carries a game ?, return about 4 kicks a game ?, receive a few flare or screen passes a game ?
DMac carried the ball more than 70% of the time while they played together, only cuz Houston Nutt was an idiot....yet only has 89 more career total yards ??? ..Doesn't that translate to anybody about his abilities to produce with the opportunities given to him ?
I just can't understand how people here can't see what most NFL personel, scouts, and a very few in the know bloggers on here realize...Felix Jones is by far and away the best possible RB complement to a bruising power back like MBIII...He's not a back up in no means..He's another weapon....And he would've started on any other college football team in the country, and been a finalist for the Heisman Trophy, without a doubt. AND, he'd be a top 5 prospect in next years draft.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:43 PM CDT
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Grizz, you forgot Tiki Barber on your list
by Terry on
Apr 17, 2008 7:40 AM CDT
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WHY?
are people high on desean jackson. C'mon we saw how tedd ginn worked out for the dolphins. Dont draft a returner in the first round!
by thebigham on Apr 17, 2008 6:50 AM CDT 0 recs
The Dolphins used a top 10 pick on Ginn
Despite most people giving him a late-first grade. He's one of the most unrefined route-runners I've ever seen.
His kick returning was exemplary, though. If all we're using Jackson for is the occasional deep ball or quick intermediate route (Think Marvin Harrison/Wes Welker routes) he wouldn't be overexposed. The problem with Ginn was the fact that a team utilizing a pick that high on a player will try to build a unit around him. They traded away what was a pretty good receiving corps (Welker and Chambers) and Ginn was left alone with Marty Booker. Great company, no?
by BudLight on
Apr 17, 2008 7:55 AM CDT
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Ginn?
You should slap yourself twice for makin that comparison. Size and speed are similar but Ginn has stiff hips and average hands. Thats crazy.
by GloryDayz88 on
Apr 17, 2008 10:32 AM CDT
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I agree Glory...Ginn is nowhere near Jackson.....
In overall talent, receiver or even return ability for that matter.
by BoyzRback07 on
Apr 17, 2008 3:55 PM CDT
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How can you judge a WR after one year?
Yes it was a reach, but you can't say he hasn't worked out for Miami.
by ChrisRichey on
Apr 17, 2008 10:53 AM CDT
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co-sign
and the percentages of WRs that went off in their rookie seasons are few and far between.
not to mention the Fins horrible passing attack last season.
now imagine Red Ball finding ways to utilize DeSean Jackson's speed and playmaking abilities on offense with an outstanding O-line and stellar QB play.
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