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What Do Colts And Lions Fans Think Of Mike Jenkins?

Some Indianapolis fans want to trade Dwight Freeney for Mike Jenkins. Here, he shows us one way in which he could help.
Some Indianapolis fans want to trade Dwight Freeney for Mike Jenkins. Here, he shows us one way in which he could help.

You know something crazy's happening when the most divisive player on the Cowboys' roster isn't playing Quarterback. We all know the debate - Mike Jenkins: deal him or keep him?

We've seen the reports that the Lions, Colts and two unnamed teams have sent out offers for Jenkins, and been rejected. We've seen the comment threads here at BtB fill up with posts for and against dealing Jenkins. Many of us have our price, but despite our varying positions, we're all Cowboys fans.

To truly grasp all sides of the argument, we need to take a look at the fans around the league - specifically those of the teams attempting to make a deal for Mike Jenkins. After the jump, we'll take a look at what fans of the Lions and Colts are saying about Mike Jenkins.

In interest of satisfying someone who shall remain unnamed's minor OCD issues, we'll track these posts chronologically. First up - a May 26 post on Pride of Detroit:

Lions Interested In Trading For Mike Jenkins?
I heard the asking price is like a 3rd or a 4th? Not sure if I would do it. Unless we could trade for 2009 Mike Jenkins
by Reno09 on May 26, 2012 4:58 PM PDT
Man I hope this is true
And if so, I hope we land him. Can't let Jerry screw us but we could really use his services. I'm sure he could return to his old form behind our line instead of playing behind Demarcus Ware & the nobodies.
by fiendishdr.wu on May 26, 2012 5:12 PM PDT
I heard high asking price.
Maybe Mr.Jones is just trying to avoid being Mayhewed.
by nukefarmer on May 26, 2012 5:23 PM PDT
you mean
...mayhewed again!
by dfwLions on May 26, 2012 5:35 PM PDT
Oh... Is this the guy that practices with the best receivers in the game?
by Packfill on May 26, 2012 6:26 PM PDT
Maybe he just makes them look like the best receivers in the game...
In all honesty, he's solid and a decent second CB. With our lack of depth, I'd take him if the price is right.
by atvman on May 27, 2012 6:44 AM PDT
I don't think they are going to let him go.
No knowing how well morris claiborne will do and Jenkins is cheap insurance for them to hold onto.
by Eddie Apoc on May 26, 2012 7:37 PM PDT

So far, I'd say they're lukewarm.

Now, we'll move forward three days to a May 29 piece from Stampede Blue:

This post contains some thoughts on the circumstances from the author, so I'll give you a bit of info from the article itself.

..with the Cowboys trading up in the draft to land LSU's Morris Claiborne and their big money acquisition of free agent Brandon Carr, Jenkins isn't starting anymore...Claiborne and Carr are the starters, period.

That said, keeping Jenkins makes sense for Dallas no matter what the Colts are reportedly offering. Schefter wrote that a person connected to the Colts told him that Indianapolis has been trying to pry loose Jenkins with an offer that (I'm assuming) another source said, "many teams would think is compelling." This suggests a second round pick in 2013 for Jenkins. No lower than a 3rd rounder. Third day picks are not considering "compelling." ...

There are also the continued rumors surrounding Dwight Freeney, which (strangely) have not completely gone away. I doubt Freeney gets traded to the Boys. They were just hit with a salary cap penalty by the league, and Freeney counts $19 mill this year (his final under his current contract).

If a deal is reached for Jenkins, look for it to happen during (or right before) training camp. Both the Cowboys and the Colts will know what talent they are working with by then, and if the Boys are comfortable with Carr, Claiborne, Scandrick, and someone else, they might warm to trading Jenkins.

Looks like the Colts are looking for a serious deal. I know a bunch of you have already commented that you'd trade Mike Jenkins for Percy Harvin, but Dwight Freeney? Why have we not heard this before? On to the comments!

The Colts REALLY Want Cowboys Corner Mike Jenkins
Jenkins for a 3rd rounder
not a 2nd...
by BigBlueDawg on May 29, 2012 7:35 AM PDT
If they get Jenkins...
They could go 8-8 if him and Powers stay healthy with the last place schedule.
CB is the only glaring weakness left
by (206)NightRidah on May 29, 2012 7:40 AM PDT
If we trade a day two pick for a guy we can get in free agency next season, when we have to spend up to the minimum cap number, I will be incredibly disappointed. It would be very short sighted of Grigson to do something like this. Our second round pick will be between 33-48 next year, which is too much and more valuable than a temperamental corner with injury issues.
I love the idea of trading a later round pick or two, or even Freeney, for Jenkins but giving up a day two pick is far, far too much.
by torridphenix on May 29, 2012 8:01 AM PDT
this is a bad idea
I'm with the others, I'd be ok with anything 4th and higher, but definitely not in the first three rounds.
by coltsfanbeforemanning on May 29, 2012 8:21 AM PDT
If the Colts were willing to give up a 2nd round pick, this deal would already be done
That's what the Cowboys were reportedly asking for during the draft. So any talk of keeping Jenkins is mostly posturing on the part of the Cowboys to still get good value.
by shastamasta on May 29, 2012 8:35 AM PDT
Crazy talk...
Jenkins is worth a 3rd rounder and signing him to a long term deal showing a commitment to him would instantly improve Colts secondary...
No way in HAY-YULL Dallas takes a late rounder for him, he's a pro bowler. They will stick him in the dime and he will play out his rookie contract (grudgingly) and hit the market next season.
by BigBlueDawg on May 29, 2012 10:06 AM PDT
Could not agree more
I understand that draft picks are valuable, but come on people! Is a 27 year-old Pro Bowl caliber CB not worth a 3rd round pick? Seriously? Do people think 3rd round CBs routinely make the Pro Bowl? Anybody wish we had Jenkins instead of Kevin Thomas? I realize the Pro Bowl is not the end-all evaluating tool in the NFL, but I think it's safe to say Jenkins doesn't suck. It reminds me of the Mike Wallace discussions around the league. I don't know why teams with a mid-to-late 1st round pick that were WR-needy didn't make an offer to Wallace. Here's a guy who by some advanced stats was better than Calvin Johnson in the first part of last year when Megatron was going off.
by ctnyc on May 30, 2012 5:10 PM PDT

It appears many Colts fans have resigned themselves to a losing season (with the hope that a solid defense can get them to 8-8). Still, moreso than the Lions', the Colts's fans seem to be very eager to secure Mike Jenkins. Many reasonable arguments were made in favor of the deal.

Of course, some crazier suggestions were made, like trading Mike Jenkins and Anthony Spencer for Dwight Freeney (and swapping 4th round picks). Suffice it to say I don't believe that will happen.

Two days later, the same writer, Brad Wells, reported to his readers that Mike Jenkins will not be traded.

If you truly despise Jerry Jones, read the whole piece. Here's a nugget:

Jones is often the butt of jokes in league circles. People respect his money. They don't respect the man, and they respect his talents as a football evaluator even less.

The fans won't give up, though, and continue to contemplate trade scenarios.

Jerry Jones Says Mike Jenkins Staying In Dallas
Jenkins will be traded before training camp.
He is projected as the fourth cornerback on their roster. Carr will be one starter. No way Claiborne doesn't start on the opposite side. Scandrick was just signed to a big contract to be their nickel back. Jenkins is in a contract year and needs to put up numbers in order to get a big payday. No way he can do this as a dime CB. Dallas is just wanting to keep him as an insurance policy for now. If I were Jenkins agent, I would tell him to hold out to force a trade. He knows that he can get a decent contract with the Colts or another team. I think the Colts purposely leaked this to the press to let Jenkins know they are interested and to avoid tampering. If Jenkins has the guts to hold out, he will force Dallas to trade him no matter what Jerry Jones says. I remember when Jerry Jones said that there was no way the were going to sign TO.
by Radcolt on May 31, 2012 8:48 AM PDT
Very interesting angle about the Colts leaking their interest
I agree that there is still a good chance he could be traded. The Cowboys are just posturing at this point in an effort to maximize his trade value.
by shastamasta on May 31, 2012 10:50 AM PDT
They were trying to trade him at the draft, now he's untouchable? As a 4th CB? Jones wouldn't trade him for any draft pick? So if some stupid GM offered Dallas a 1st rounder for their 4th CB, they'd say no? Sure. Jones might be a meddling idiot, but he's not that stupid. He's trying to drive up the price.
by ctnyc on May 31, 2012 6:21 PM PDT
I'd love to see the Colts keep trying.
A quality CB is something we're dearly lacking. Dallas may just be trying to get more for Jenkins, but there are some other teams that are fairly deep at CB. A decent CB is bound to become available once team's start pairing down their rosters.
by NFLFan83 on May 31, 2012 8:52 AM PDT
I say we offer a 4th rounder and a blogger.
by Reese's Feces on Jun 1, 2012 8:13 AM PDT
Instant Upgrade
I really hope we can persuade Dallas to deal Jenkins. As long as the price isn't too steep,(no higher than a third) I say go for it. We need major secondary help THIS year. If he plays well we can extend his deal with some of our cap space next year. If he doesn't pan out, at least we gave it a shot to try and win now. Sometimes you have to take risks.
by truebluecoltsfan on May 31, 2012 6:07 PM PDT

Overall, the resounding sentiment is that Jones is bluffing, and the Colts are still going to potentially acquire Jenkins.

Moving back over to Pride of Detroit, the discussion continued with the "Jenkins not going anywhere" headline on June 4th. At this point, it appears the Detroit fans have grown weary of the discussion (not that they were ever as enthusiastic as the Colts' supporters).

Lions Reportedly Among Four Teams Turned Down In Attempt To Trade For Mike Jenkins
Maybe Jerry doesn't trust Romo
To lead this team. Thus the depth and talent of the defense is all the more, eh?
by rames on Jun 4, 2012 9:13 AM PDT
I don't know if that's true or not
but anything that involves someone not trusting Romo has to be built upon fact.
by Ee Oulo on Jun 4, 2012 3:13 PM PDT
By that logic the Lions shouldn't bother looking for CBs.
Because if we go looking for depth and talent on the defense we don't trust Stafford to lead the team.
by drgarnett on Jun 5, 2012 2:27 PM PDT
Mike Jenkins
He'll be traded. With the potential for injuries prior to the season starting, his value will only go up.
by mjkelly77 on Jun 4, 2012 12:59 PM PDT
Thats all I have to say..Don't want him we can do better
by The Profiler on Jun 4, 2012 2:43 PM PDT
Totally agree Profiler.
Maybe Mayhew offered to much, like an actual player that can play in trade. Oh THAT'S why we resigned Stoval, so we could trade him to the Cowboys for not only Jenkins but futcher 1st round draft picks as well.
by davis0169 on Jun 4, 2012 3:01 PM PDT

No hard feelings in Detroit, by all appearances. I have to wonder what Detroit would be willing to risk for Jenkins, given their fans apparent confidence in their current defensive backfield. No matter, we still have other suitors.

Back to Indianapolis for our last stop! On June 19th (about 3 days ago), Brad Wells once again broached the subject of Mike Jenkins. This time, he discusses his belief that the Colts will have another chance at Mike Jenkins.

The Colts Are Going To Get Another Shot At Mike Jenkins
Doesn't make any sense
for a rebuilding team to trade a third round pick for a guy coming off an injury and entering the final year of his contract.
by javen on Jun 19, 2012 8:46 AM PDT
I wouldn't say it doesn't make sense..
We all want the team to win now. If you can pick up a guy that has proven talent to play corner in the NFL (I think he was a pro bowl alternate) for a 3rd round pick AND he only costs 1 mil....PULL THE TRIGGER. If we draft corners next year, what guarantee is there they are going to play to Jenkins level out of the gate? Most likely, they will need time to mature and adjust to the speed of the game, just as all of our rookies will.
by Reese's Feces on Jun 19, 2012 9:17 AM PDT
Agree 100%
I was about ready to write something similar to your post. Getting a younger/healthier 3rd round talent next year would make more sense to me. I expect the colts to compete this year but getting younger talent next year for the long run makes far better sense.
by Arminian on Jun 19, 2012 8:48 AM PDT
He's a first contract starting NFL CB with 3-4 experience.
Unless he's permanently damaged, he's proven that he's worthy of a second contract. The idea of signing him is to help in 2012 AND going forward. He is entering his prime years and his kind will not be cheap on the open market. A market that we currently can't compete in due to all of the dead money. Yes, this won't be a problem next year when all of that space frees up, but what about this year?
Is he Revis? No, but he's better than all of the other corners on the roster not named Powers (and he has more 3-4 experience than Powers). There are simply too many teams running the 3-4 to compete for his services in FA. A quality corner is our biggest need currently, and this could address it.
by vintagephoenix on Jun 19, 2012 9:03 AM PDT
don't know if this makes sense...
would Indy trade Freeney to Jenkins? not sure if Cowboys are a 4-3 thou. And what type of cash they have to pay Dwight
by btr1313 on Jun 19, 2012 9:52 AM PDT
They're a 3-4 team.
A 32yr old out of position OLB isn't worth a 27yr old CB in today's market.
by vintagephoenix on Jun 19, 2012 9:58 AM PDT
3rd or 4th rounder
is a good trade for Jenkins... The Colts will have lots of 2nd to 5th round picks to get players in 2013 draft once they trade their 1st rounder away to a team that wants a QB.
by BigBlueDawg on Jun 19, 2012 12:25 PM PDT

Again, the Freeney talk surfaces - and it seems their fans feel Freeney is less valuable than Jenkins. Don't mistake me; I don't think it would work out. As the Indy fan replied, Freeney would be out of position in our defense.

This concludes our recap of the Mike Jenkins trade talks. Hope you enjoyed the tour!

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