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Over at Pride of Detroit, our sister blog for the Lions, writer Kent Platte took a detailed look at NFL offensive lines. He was searching for answers as to why Detroit is struggling up front. Seeking an analytic indicator, he examined a number called Raw Athletic Score (RAS), which uses combine and pro day numbers to try and quantify the talent of the players. He built a chart of the starting offensive line for every NFL team in 2015, which I have reproduced here. And you may notice some things that are rather surprising.
Rank | TM | Left Tackle | Left Guard | Center | Right Guard | Right Tackle | AVG |
1 | PHI | Jason Peters, 8.32 |
Allen Barbre, 8.75 |
Jason Kelce, 9.35 |
Brandon Brooks, 10.00 |
Lane Johnson, 9.92 |
9.27 |
2 | CLE | Joe Thomas, 8.29 |
Joel Bitonio, 9.36 |
Cameron Erving, 9.09 |
John Greco, 5.59 |
Alvin Bailey, 8.56 |
8.18 |
3 | IND | Anthony Castonzo, 8.62 |
Jack Mewhort, 5.69 |
Ryan Kelly, 9.29 |
Hugh Thornton, 9.26 |
Denzelle Good, 6.99 |
7.97 |
4 | TAM | Donovan Smith, 6.94 |
J.R. Sweezy, 9.46 |
Joe Hawley, 4.81 |
Ali Marpet, 9.8 |
Demar Dotson, - |
7.75 |
5 | ATL | Jake Matthews, 8.89 |
Andy Levitre, 3.36 |
Alex Mack, 7.79 |
Chris Chester, 9.43 |
Ryan Schraeder, 9.11 |
7.72 |
6 | NYJ | Ryan Clady, 8.13 |
James Carpenter, 7.25 |
Nick Mangold, 8.57 |
Brian Winters, 7.48 |
Breno Giacomini, 6.67 |
7.62 |
7 | ARI | Jared Veldheer, 9.97 |
Mike Iupati, 4.60 |
A.Q. Shipley, 6.69 |
Evan Mathis, 9.97 |
D.J. Humphries, 6.07 |
7.46 |
8 | GNB | David Bakhtiari, 4.82 |
Josh Sitton, 9.33 |
Corey Linsley, 8.7 |
T.J. Lang, 9.19 |
Bryan Bulaga, 4.96 |
7.40 |
9 | LAR | Greg Robinson, 9.02 |
Rodger Saffold, 8.83 |
Tim Barnes, 7.92 |
Jamon Brown, 9.26 |
Rob Havenstein, 0.92 |
7.19 |
10 | CIN | Andrew Whitworth, 8.16 |
Clint Boling, 7.15 |
Russell Bodine, 6.28 |
Kevin Zeitler, 6.51 |
Cedric Ogbuehi, - |
6.74 |
11 | KAN | Eric Fisher, 9.67 |
Jarrod Pughsley, 7.49 |
Mitch Morse, 9.03 |
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif, - |
Mitchell Schwartz, 0.68 |
6.72 |
12 | CHI | Charles Leno, 5.39 |
Cody Whitehair, 7.38 |
Hroniss Grasu, 6.82 |
Kyle Long, 9.53 |
Bobby Massie, 4.28 |
6.68 |
13 | DAL | Tyron Smith, 9.19 |
La'El Collins, 5.94 |
Travis Frederick, 1.17 |
Zack Martin, 8.22 |
Doug Free, 8.73 |
6.65 |
14 | TEN | Taylor Lewan, 10.00 |
Quinton Spain, 8.76 |
Ben Jones, 2.99 |
Chance Warmack, 1.31 |
Jack Conklin, 8.54 |
6.32 |
15 | NEP | Nate Solder, 9.76 |
Shaq Mason, 8.83 |
Bryan Stork, 1.49 |
Tre' Jackson, 0.47 |
Sebastian Vollmer, 9.95 |
6.10 |
16 | SNF | Joe Staley, 9.86 |
Zane Beadles, - |
Daniel Kilgore, 5.34 |
Joshua Garnett, 6.78 |
Trenton Brown, 1.87 |
5.96 |
17 | NOS | Terron Armstead, 9.43 |
Tim Lelito, 7.02 |
Max Unger, 3.38 |
Andrus Peat, 8.76 |
Zach Strief, 1.17 |
5.95 |
18 | MIN | Matt Kalil, 8.02 |
Alex Boone, 6.99 |
Joe Berger, 4.61 |
Brandon Fusco, 7.99 |
Phil Loadholt, 1.33 |
5.79 |
19 | HOU | Duane Brown, 7.37 |
Xavier Su'a-Filo, 7.75 |
Nick Martin, 5.71 |
Jeff Allen, 2.51 |
Derek Newton, 4.91 |
5.65 |
20 | BAL | Eugene Monroe, 2.68 |
Ryan Jensen, 6.11 |
Jeremy Zuttah, 7.83 |
Marshal Yanda, 8.29 |
Ricky Wagner, 2.93 |
5.57 |
21 | WAS | Trent Williams, 9.32 |
Spencer Long, - |
Kory Lichtensteiger, 2.34 |
Brandon Scherff, 9.63 |
Morgan Moses, 0.89 |
5.55 |
22 | SEA | Garry Gilliam, 9.02 |
Rees Odhiambo, 2.95 |
Patrick Lewis, 1.88 |
J'Marcus Webb, 5.85 |
Germain Ifedi, 7.62 |
5.46 |
23 | CAR | Michael Oher, 2.66 |
Andrew Norwell, 3.62 |
Ryan Kalil, 8.51 |
Trai Turner, 5.5 |
Mike Remmers, 5.55 |
5.17 |
24 | DEN | Russell Okung, 6.75 |
Max Garcia, 3.44 |
Matt Paradis, 3.51 |
Robert Myers, 2.82 |
Donald Stephenson, 8.94 |
5.09 |
25 | NYG | Ereck Flowers, 4.39 |
Justin Pugh, 8.03 |
Weston Richburg, 4.74 |
Bobby Hart, 0.97 |
Marshall Newhouse, 6.64 |
4.95 |
26 | SDC | King Dunlap, 5.04 |
Orlando Franklin, 5.69 |
Matt Slauson, 7.47 |
D.J. Fluker, 2.71 |
Joe Barksdale, 3.28 |
4.84 |
27 | BUF | Cordy Glenn, 3.77 |
Richie Incognito, 8.56 |
Eric Wood, 8.12 |
John Miller, 2.25 |
Jordan Mills, 1.36 |
4.81 |
28 | MIA | Branden Albert, 5.53 |
Dallas Thomas, - |
Mike Pouncey, 3.18 |
Laremy Tunsil, - |
JaWuan James, 5.66 |
4.79 |
29 | JAX | Kelvin Beachum, 0.7 |
Mackenzy Bernadeau, 7.79 |
Brandon Linder, 4.03 |
A.J. Cann, - |
Luke Joeckel, 5.93 |
4.17 |
30 | OAK | Donald Penn, - |
Gabe Jackson, 3.99 |
Rodney Hudson, 0.45 |
Kelechi Osemele, 5.69 |
Austin Howard, 5.37 |
3.88 |
31 | PIT | Alejandro Villanueva, - |
Ramon Foster, 0.5 |
Maurkice Pouncey, 2.86 |
David DeCastro, 7.32 |
Marcus Gilbert, 2.82 |
3.38 |
32 | DET | Riley Reiff, 3.55 |
Laken Tomlinson, 3.39 |
Travis Swanson, 2.92 |
Larry Warford, 1.28 |
Taylor Decker, 5.45 |
3.32 |
Yes, that is the Dallas Cowboys offensive line coming in as only the 13th overall in the league using this metric. Also of note, the most athletic line in the NFL belongs to our beloved rivals, the Philadelphia Eagles.
That seems odd, but the article explained that this number was much better at predicting failure than success. That seems fairly clear in the case of the Cowboys. While Tyron Smith, Doug Free, and Zack Martin all had very good scores, La'el Collins was just a little better than average. And Travis Frederick had a very poor number.
This is something of a cautionary case about measureables. As Fredbeard illustrates, there is a lot more to playing in the NFL than just how you stack up against others when running set drills. Frederick has a reputation as being a superb technician more than any kind of athletic freak. His low score is not a big surprise (although just how low it is was a bit unexpected). This may have had something to do with how everyone else in the league and just about all the draft gurus sorely underestimated his worth when he was drafted. The numbers alone can't gauge skill, or the nasty attitude that he brings to the middle of the line. And things like speed and agility play a bigger role for almost all positions other than center. He is not going to be running pass patterns or even be expected to pull and lead a running back. That very low RAS in the middle of the line has not kept it from being regarded as the class of the NFL.
The fact the Eagles' line has the best composite score in the league also demonstrates that there is much more to success than looking good at the combine. You would think such a talented group, when paired with the previous year's rushing champion, would produce quite the formidable ground game. But they were just middle of the pack, and DeMarco Murray was turned into a compete non-factor in another example of how the towering genius of Chip Kelly totally ruined that team.
Okay, that was a bit of a cheap shot (not that it results in even a scintilla of regret), but the basic principle holds true. The fact the Cleveland Brows have the second most athletic line also supports how this stat is unreliable in predicting any kind of success. Athleticism is not the be all and end all, especially in a position that is so dependent on technique and teamwork. One of the ironies of football is that members of the offensive line are not considered "skill positions", but there may be more need for technique and precision there than anywhere else on the field. And those are things that are not going to be evident at the so-called "Underwear Olympics".
Fortunately, they are very much so on the Dallas offensive line.